dIRECTOR's Cut for MOS 1.6.2

**iuly23** · January 13, 2015, 09:31 AM

Can't start a campaign with this new goddamn update.If I could start playing the game bug-free every time i decide to play,that would be wonderful.In stead,every time I want to play Third Age,i gotta sped countless hours searching the forums for an fix to an new goddamn issue.

**Ngugi** · January 13, 2015, 09:43 AM

No pain, no gain.

**Greymane** · January 13, 2015, 09:59 AM

Originally Posted by iuly23

Can't start a campaign with this new goddamn update.If I could start playing the game bug-free every time i decide to play,that would be wonderful.In stead,every time I want to play Third Age,i gotta sped countless hours searching the forums for an fix to an new goddamn issue.

Were you able to play MOS 1.62 without problems? If so, did you run the cleaner file after you installed this update?

Originally Posted by Ngugi

No pain, no gain.

**2-5-Korbe** · January 16, 2015, 11:07 AM

Hello. My game keeps crashing during henneth annun siege, defending as Gondor Vs Mordor, so i load my log file here. I use The Universal Mod Launcher v1.204. I have installed steam medieval total war 2 + third age 3.0 + 3.2 patch + Mos 1.6.2 25 Dec release + MOS v1.6.2 Bug Fixer + MOS v1.6.2 Bug Fixer2 + export_descr_buildings + dIRECTOR's Cut for MOS 1.6.2

Spoiler Alert, click show to read:

**2-5-Korbe** · January 17, 2015, 02:45 PM

I noticed that dwarfes cannot ugrade cities, is it a bug or intented feature?

**qdk** · January 20, 2015, 02:36 PM

Originally Posted by 2-5-Korbe

I noticed that dwarfes cannot ugrade cities, is it a bug or intented feature?

Noticed something similar. Both as High Elves and as FPOE I have taken control of Buzra-dûm (town level). The population level indicator said that a minimum of 4000 pop is required to upgrade the town, but once that is reached the town cannot be upgraded.

**dIRECT0R** · January 23, 2015, 02:07 AM

Originally Posted by 2-5-Korbe

Hello. My game keeps crashing during henneth annun siege, defending as Gondor Vs Mordor, so i load my log file here. I use The Universal Mod Launcher v1.204. I have installed steam medieval total war 2 + third age 3.0 + 3.2 patch + Mos 1.6.2 25 Dec release + MOS v1.6.2 Bug Fixer + MOS v1.6.2 Bug Fixer2 + export_descr_buildings + dIRECTOR's Cut for MOS 1.6.2

Spoiler Alert, click show to read:

Uh... everything is missing. Bad installation. Try re-installing (following the instructions ofc) .

Originally Posted by 2-5-Korbe

I noticed that dwarfes cannot ugrade cities, is it a bug or intented feature?

Never touched anything with relation to Dwarves. I'm going to assume that may be a deliberate feature.

NOTICE: Am uploading a version with several bugfixes, such as Arnor creation without Archet, the Achnod settlement thing, fixed the splash screen, fixed some badly-named provinces (Chetnwood), etc. No new additions, just bugfixes.

EDIT: Scratch the above, included will be bugfixes and a modification of the course of the river Harnen, which was not in accordance to Lore.

**Greymane** · January 23, 2015, 05:31 AM

Originally Posted by 2-5-Korbe

I noticed that dwarfes cannot ugrade cities, is it a bug or intented feature?

Originally Posted by qdk

Noticed something similar. Both as High Elves and as FPOE I have taken control of Buzra-dûm (town level). The population level indicator said that a minimum of 4000 pop is required to upgrade the town, but once that is reached the town cannot be upgraded.

It is definitely not a feature. Buzra-Dûm is probably bugged. If you people are unable to upgrade any other settlements, that means that you haven't installed the bugfixes in the MOS OP, but that might not solve the Buzra-Dûm issue.

**dIRECT0R** · January 23, 2015, 06:59 AM

Changes included in the new upload:

Fixed accessibility of the Achnod Iaun settlement.
Fixed the formation of Arnor event bug (Staddle, which has been moved, will no longer be required)
Fixed the name of the Brown Lands province at Rohan's crossing over the Anduin ("Brown Lands" instead of "Chetwood").
Changed the splash screen info. It will now read "MOS 1.6.2 + Director's Cut"
Fixed the Ithilien Ranger bug, by removing the ranger_captain (couldn't fix him, can't figure out what it was; must have something to do with the model - if anyone knows..?)
Modified the course of the Harnen river to reflect Lore. Also modified certain province borders in that region, slightly moved towns and forts.
Changed Lond Angren back to a village (its no longer a motte)

And, as always, some other miscellaneous bug fixes I can't recall right now

The version will be up on mega.co.nz in about 2 hours (or thereabout).

EDIT: A note on the river Harnen. The Harnen ('Southing') is the old southern border of Gondor, hence its a big part of province building in the southern areas of the map. There was a small map on the LotR Wikia (this one http://img1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb2...-Harad_map.jpg) which erroneously highlighted its upper course, and this seems to have caused erroneous province borders in the MOS map.

The actual upper course of the Harnen can be seen on the less detailed maps: http://www.themarysue.com/wp-content...pg#geekosystem
Looking upriver - it does not go straight north and end there, that seems to be a small tributary of some kind (probably non-Lore). It in fact swerves towards the east for a considerable distance before reaching its source.

I've deleted the map from the relevant LotR Wikia article, to prevent further confusion on this point.. From my experience, anyone seeking info on Tolkien Lore would be well advised to seek out the "Tolkien Gateway" rather than the Wikia (in lieu of actual books ofc). There's much less content, but what is there doesn't contain nearly as many errors.
(sorry about the rant

if you don't mod, you probably shouldn't care at all)

EDIT: New version is up. Apologies for how long it took for me to fix these minor issues.

EDIT: Gasp! Just noticed Rohan skins aren't up to snuff.. much of the earlier stuff from the Recoloured Units submod isn't included here. Basically I am currently giving Rohan a once-over with regard to skins and sprites, and will be posting an update with the stuff in the next couple days (completely save-compatible).

**qdk** · January 24, 2015, 06:51 AM

Originally Posted by Greymane

It is definitely not a feature. Buzra-Dûm is probably bugged. If you people are unable to upgrade any other settlements, that means that you haven't installed the bugfixes in the MOS OP, but that might not solve the Buzra-Dûm issue.

I have installed those bugfixes, so for me the problem was limited to just Buzra-dûm. However, now I suddenly recollect not being able to upgrade Fennas Drúnin either during my FPOE playthrough. It stayed at town level for the entire game. And I wonder if Weathertop is really intended to be a village, because as far as I can tell almost all custom settlements are large or huge cities, with accompanying building upgrades. Weathertop as a village throughout the game makes it somewhat useless late game.

Originally Posted by dIRECT0R

Changes included in the new upload:

Fixed accessibility of the Achnod Iaun settlement.
Fixed the formation of Arnor event bug (Staddle, which has been moved, will no longer be required)
......

Instead of Staddle you're referring to Archet, right?

**qdk** · January 24, 2015, 06:52 AM

Congrats on the new release by the way!

**dIRECT0R** · January 24, 2015, 07:39 AM

Originally Posted by qdk

Instead of Staddle you're referring to Archet, right?

Yup. The name of the province was "Staddle" (for some reason).

**2-5-Korbe** · January 25, 2015, 04:28 AM

Originally Posted by dIRECT0R

Uh... everything is missing. Bad installation. Try re-installing (following the instructions ofc) .

Never touched anything with relation to Dwarves. I'm going to assume that may be a deliberate feature.

NOTICE: Am uploading a version with several bugfixes, such as Arnor creation without Archet, the Achnod settlement thing, fixed the splash screen, fixed some badly-named provinces (Chetnwood), etc. No new additions, just bugfixes.

EDIT: Scratch the above, included will be bugfixes and a modification of the course of the river Harnen, which was not in accordance to Lore.

Ah

Fool me, i must have missed something during installation. Thank u for answer and for making great sub mod.

**Feeelix** · January 25, 2015, 06:32 AM

Would it be possible to recolor the Highelven units wearing the 'Last Alliance Armor' having dark red cloth around their waists and dark blue coats instead of the dark grey ones, and also give the Galadhrim 'Helms Deep Armor' units dark blue coats instead of the dark green ones? I would appreciate it very much if that is not to much to ask

, it would bring Third Age to near perfection for me

**Feeelix** · January 25, 2015, 04:24 PM

And concerning the Galadhrim elves maybe even make the steel armors to look more like this?

Now I think I've read somewhere you don't like it like it like that, but I figured it would do any harm if I just
asked

**dIRECT0R** · January 25, 2015, 04:58 PM

Originally Posted by 2-5-Korbe

Ah

Fool me, i must have missed something during installation. Thank u for answer and for making great sub mod.

You wouldn't have seen that in-game, its the provice's "real" name in the files

. I haven't tested that its fixed, but it really ought to be.

Originally Posted by Feeelix

Would it be possible to recolor the Highelven units wearing the 'Last Alliance Armor' having dark red cloth around their waists and dark blue coats instead of the dark grey ones, and also give the Galadhrim 'Helms Deep Armor' units dark blue coats instead of the dark green ones? I would appreciate it very much if that is not to much to ask

, it would bring Third Age to near perfection for me

Sure, why not

.

Here are the three files you need.
https://mega.co.nz/#!EhQFyIwa!zUPBvp...gidt2mojKyK9CU
The two "eldar" files go to 'Medieval II Total War\mods\Third_Age_3\data\unit_models\_units\high_elves\textures', whereas the one "sindar" file goes to 'Medieval II Total War\mods\Third_Age_3\data\unit_models\_units\my_units\textures'.

Remember, if you don't like some skin or other that I've done - you can just use the files from the vanilla MOS 1.6.2. file... though I admit its kind of tricky figuring out which one does which - but not if I tell you

. In the specific case of the Galadhrim armour, the files in question are 'silvan.texture', 'silvan_attachment.texture', and elf3.texture (if I recall correctly), all located at 'Medieval II Total War\mods\Third_Age_3\data\unit_models\_units\my_units\textures'. So you can just install TATW MOS 1.6.2 into a random empty folder, and then just pick and choose what you want to replace. I can't vouch for the results, though.
EDIT: Oh wait! Are the files modded my way in 1.6.2 as well? In that case, install just TATW in an empty folder, and get the skins from there to replace yours.

Better still, if you have Photoshop with the (freeware) nVIDIA plugin, and the textureddsconverter you can find here on twcenter - you'll be able to mess around with the skin textures yourself. I started modding because of one single thing: I didn't like that Taro's Citadel Guards had crescent-shaped spears coloured gold. So I found the skin texture file and desaturated the spear tips..

But my take is - their armour ought to be made of steel. I can swallow the unrealistic super-stylized illogical armour (holes in the helmets! they have axe-sized holes. in the helmets

), but to have it all be gilded to boot.. kinda too much.
Also bear in mind that as a purist, my mind refuses to acknowledge anything in the movies that was unsupported by the books. I've been documented going into catatonic states whenever in the movies the Elves appear out of nowhere at Helm's Deep (and are not attacked by the anti-Elvish Rohirrim). Whenever they're off screen, I'm fine, but switch to them, and my mind switches off. Kind of like what everyone experiences watching the Hobbit movies

.

Anyway, I am currently uploading a version that will contain a workover of the Rohan skins. Nothing major, that faction is really kind of unfortunate... might as well rename them the 'High Kingdom of ZZ Top'.

I've fixed what I can without going into modelling (which is still by no means my specialty). Certain 'normal' files that did not correspond to the diffs were fixed.. steel is steel-like, leather leather-like, standardized their horses, did away with leather helmets (which are a pretty unrelistic concept in general), gave appropriate sprites, stuff like that. I introduced stuff from the old "Recoloured Units" mod, but I modified the files a bit further from there.

EDIT: New version (same but with Rohan) is up.

**Feeelix** · January 26, 2015, 12:06 PM

Awesome, thank you very much for your quick (and detailed

) response

.

**Feeelix** · January 26, 2015, 12:39 PM

About the steel armor, I always thought they somehow worked the steel to have for example that more bronze kind of color , but then again I don't really know anything about metal works, so I maybe just an idiot

**dIRECT0R** · January 27, 2015, 05:38 PM

Options to introduce yellow Elven armour have been uploaded in the first post. These aren't old textures, but the latest files with the old armour colour restored exactly (i.e. they retain a number of other changes unrelated to armour colour), and the uploads also include appropriate sprites (so that your armies don't sport wrong colours when viewed from the distance).

This isn't my personal preference, though. I still hold that #1 yellow armour variants just do not look good in the varied M2TW battlefields, and #2 do not fit-in very well with other units of the same faction. That's apart from #3 being unfriendly to the original lore, and even being kinda-sorta-arguably abandoned in the first Hobbit movie by their original designers (the High-Elven armour, that is). I don't recommend them, but its a matter of opinion and (even though mine is right

), I certainly never meant to force it on anyone. Modding is about choice.

(Fell free to post the stuff anywhere, Veteraan. Goes without saying.)

**Heheggg** · January 27, 2015, 06:00 PM

Just wondering if this submod is compatible with the reunification submod for MOS as well, if is not is there plans to make them compatible?

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