How To: The Ancillary Guide

[Maleficus]

Good tutorial, will come in handy no doubt, as I do like to make the odd small change myself.

This has left me with a question, though....

You've said that 'Is transferable 0' relates to whether or not the ancillary is transferable, but you haven't specified whether '0' means transferable or non-transferable. Or what the opposite is (I'm guessing it's '1').

So, ummm..... ??

[Squid]

0 is non-transferable, 1 is transferable.

[Maleficus]

0 is non-transferable, 1 is transferable.

Great. Thanks for clarifying

[jimjuif]

Hi,

im playing divide and conquer and i want to add some ancillaries. I previously did it with third age total war using the method discribed above but with this mod it dont work. On top of de export_desc_anc.txt, it say that i must modify the spreadsheet instead the txt file itself. What does that mean?

[Gigantus]

Ignore that. The guys from CA had a spreadsheet to develop those ancillaries. It is simply an internal note for the developers of CA. Proceed as you did with TATW.

[jimjuif]

I did and it dont work more!

[Gigantus]

Then you made a mistake somewhere. The log should give more detail about the error.

[jimjuif]

it dont ctd, the ancillarie just dont appear. Trigger him to appear easily but...

[Gigantus]

Copy the lines of the trait and the trigger(s) here and we can have a look.

[Swagger]

there are a few triggers that are bugged (= don't work..)

[stevietheconquer]

thanks for this great tutorial Swagger! plus rep!

[paradamed]

Hi guys. How many effects can a certain ancillary have? Is there any limit? Thanks in advance.

[Ishan]

I don't think there is any limit to it never read about it anywhere.

[paradamed]

Thanks for answering.

[Noobio]

- can an ancillary be destroyed ? like ,drag-drop outside the screen ? or only passed on ?
- can an ancillary substitute another ? like,having the anc1 and after fulfilling certain conditions getting the anc2 but loosing the first one ?

if yes ,could you provide some examples on how to do these ?

[Ishan]

- can an ancillary be destroyed ? like ,drag-drop outside the screen ? or only passed on ?
- can an ancillary substitute another ? like,having the anc1 and after fulfilling certain conditions getting the anc2 but loosing the first one ?

if yes ,could you provide some examples on how to do these ?

Drag and rop works on characters when they are in same settlement and if i remember correctly if it's transferable then drag on the strap map just makes it vanish not sure about this though.

And no i don't think you can substitute ancs for that you have to remove the previous one which can be done only for starting characters whose name you know.

[Noobio]

so ,if for example, one was to make an "anc chain" ..lets say for third age.. for a certain starting character..lets say aragorn ..could it be done ?

1. lets say ,that aragorn a starting character begins with a "shards of narsil" anc1 (it would be a broken sword) can he later on
-get a "narsil reforged" anc2 but loosing the previous one (as keeping both wouldn't make sense) ? kinna like an upgrade.. (or ,even though doesn't fit the example,could be a way to switch off a previous one..)
if yes how do you code it ? just put as condition having the previous one,along with the other conditions ? (if he didn't exactly start with the anc1 but got it later on the way ..could the substitution occur the same ? or is it obbligatory to start with anc1 in order to "upgrade" it to anc2 ? )

2. can,having an anc1 exclude the getting an anc2 ? kinna like a negative trigger..

3. just tried to "destroy" an anc by droping it into the map..but it couldn't be done .. is there any possible way to "abolish" (other than passing em on) ancillaries ..has anyone done it ?

ps..thanks for answering! could you please take a look at the "heroes abilities"

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http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=338755

thread too and give some answer if you're familiar with the subject ?
(unfortunately,the tutorials section isn't that much "supported" ..)

[Ishan]

I have a couple questions:
1. If I alter an ancillary, do I have to do anything to the bin file, or does it automatically update? Do I need a bin editor?

2. If add an ancillary, do I have to do anything to the bin file, or does it automatically update?

If you make changes in the export_ancillaries in the data\text file then it automatically updates it's relevant .bin file when you start the game you don't have to delete them every time.

3. I'd like a way to get rid of ancillaries other than making them transferable. Is there a way to do this?

Thanks for your replies.

No there is no way except the console command either via console or script but for that you need to know the exact name of the character in advance so not really worth getting into.

[Radzeer]

Hi guys! Here is a rookie question. I understand that small changes, such as triggers, odds etc can be save game compatible, but would this be the case with adding a brand new ancillary? An idea came up in my SS6.3 AAR to implement a new ancillary. If it is save game compatible, I'd try to create it and then add it to a specific character via the consol.
Thanks!

Edit: I may have found the answer. So new ones should come at the end of the anc, trigger and desc lists, right?

Just for the sake of fun, I tried to create the script. Could somebody please point out the obvious mistakes?

TRAIT

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;------------------------------------------
Ancillary Grand_Duke_of_Azaq
Type Military
Transferable 1
Image gda.tga
ExcludeCultures northern_european, middle_eastern, southern_european, greek, mesoamerican
Description Grand_Duke_of_Azaq_desc
EffectsDescription Grand_Duke_of_Azaq_effects_desc
Effect Authority 2
Effect Command 3
Effect Law 1
Effect LocalPopularity 2

TRIGGER*

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;------------------------------------------
Trigger Grand_Duke_of_Azaq_trigger
WhenToTest FatherDiesNatural
Condition FatherAnc Grand_Duke_of_Azaq
and FactionType kievan_rus
and I_SettlementOwner Azaq = kievan_rus

AcquireAncillary Grand_Duke_of_Azaq chance 100

DESCR

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{Grand_Duke_of_Azaq} The Grand Duke of Azaq
{Grand_Duke_of_Azaq_desc} This man now governs an independent principality established around Azaq, the rich seaport. The Grand Prince of the Kievan Rus is not his master anymore, he has become a force on his own.
{Grand_Duke_of_Azaq_effects_desc} +2 Authority, +3 Command, +1 Law, +2 to popularity

* What happens when the father is killed in battle? Would the son still get the anc? I could not find a condition like "FatherKilledInBattle" or something like that.

[Squid]

No, the father does not die a natural death in battle so he won't get the ancillary. There's no easy way to do it. You might be able to make something work using scripting. I'd suggest a search as this has been asked recently but I can't remember where.