Townhall - Curial Commentary and Chat

[Flinn]

I'm psychotic, no doubt about that

Also, congrats to Geg for becoming the latest Citizen of TWC!

 

[AnthoniusII]

Re: [Decision] Tiered Milestone Awards

Just of curiusity If I may allowed.
You talk abut awards and titles like the feudal society in the past centuries.
Award for posts , awards for years, awards for writing , awards for farting...and the list goes on.
What is the purpose of anyone the will demostrate such a huge collection of insignias in his avatar is an iconic world?
Half of you were modders in the past that became inactive for the easier job of colecting titles.
I would recoment all former modders that now demostrate their badges and awards to gather , worrk together (unless their ego keeps them out of any kind of teams) and create a super mod in any Total War of their choice that :
Attract attention in the modding community. That will also atttact attention from advertisment companies aka more income for TWC , there for survival of TWC and finally if TWC survives you will continue to demostrate your faudalistic badges and awards with pride. Instead of looking like North Korean Generals do something usefull. CAN YOU?

 

[Halie Satanus]

Re: [Decision] Tiered Milestone Awards

Just of curiusity If I may allowed.
You talk abut awards and titles like the feudal society in the past centuries.
Award for posts , awards for years, awards for writing , awards for farting...and the list goes on.
What is the purpose of anyone the will demostrate such a huge collection of insignias in his avatar is an iconic world?
Half of you were modders in the past that became inactive for the easier job of colecting titles.
I would recoment all former modders that now demostrate their badges and awards to gather , worrk together (unless their ego keeps them out of any kind of teams) and create a super mod in any Total War of their choice that :
Attract attention in the modding community. That will also atttact attention from advertisment companies aka more income for TWC , there for survival of TWC and finally if TWC survives you will continue to demostrate your faudalistic badges and awards with pride. Instead of looking like North Korean Generals do something usefull. CAN YOU?

If the Curia didn't discuss awards, you wouldn't have any.

Also, I modded for 5 years straight, gave up all my free time, even modded in my lunch hours at work. I released four total conversions and worked on countless other mods, I also contributed (by making all my work free use) to many many more, I still get requests to use my work. I also wrote a bunch of tutorials, some of which are still used in the RTW workshop. At the same time I was a staff moderator, the lead on the council of war, then an administrator (3 times, I think), all of which I did while modding. I'm sorry that was 12 years ago and my life has moved on, it just has. As, I'm sure have the lives of many others who are still active.

So if I can suggest, maybe take some time off criticising others and concentrate on what makes you happy.

 

[AnthoniusII]

Re: [Decision] Tiered Milestone Awards

If the Curia didn't discuss awards, you wouldn't have any.

Also, I modded for 5 years straight, gave up all my free time, even modded in my lunch hours at work. I released four total conversions and worked on countless other mods, I also contributed (by making all my work free use) to many many more, I still get requests to use my work. I also wrote a bunch of tutorials, some of which are still used in the RTW workshop. At the same time I was a staff moderator, the lead on the council of war, then an administrator (3 times, I think), all of which I did while modding. I'm sorry that was 12 years ago and my life has moved on, it just has. As, I'm sure have the lives of many others who are still active.

So if I can suggest, maybe take some time off criticising others and concentrate on what makes you happy.

Then as a modder your self you should understand that any other "awards" in a modding community that derail TWC's purpose of creating mods and not debates or writing blogs like "what i eat in my breakfast" , is no1 priority. If modding dies -and you should know better than me- all the rest will be pointless.

 

[Septentrionalis]

Re: [Decision] Tiered Milestone Awards

Then as a modder your self you should understand that any other "awards" in a modding community that derail TWC's purpose of creating mods and not debates or writing blogs like "what i eat in my breakfast" , is no1 priority. If modding dies -and you should know better than me- all the rest will be pointless.

If you say something like you have in this thread and really mean it, you reveal that you have little sense of community and do not perhaps understand what makes people happy and why they congregate the way they do. I wish you could have some fun ​with others and learn to appreciate it.

 

[AnthoniusII]

Re: [Decision] Tiered Milestone Awards

If you say something like you have in this thread and really mean it, you reveal that you have little sense of community and do not perhaps understand what makes people happy and why they congregate the way they do. I wish you could have some fun ​with others and learn to appreciate it.

When i first came here i came to a modding site.
If by "having fun with others " you mean something like this.

So be it. I said my opinion and that's all. For me "having fun with others" is to make mods that offer knowelege and pleasure gamming time. But that's my personal point of view.

 

[Halie Satanus]

Re: [Decision] Tiered Milestone Awards

Then as a modder your self you should understand that any other "awards" in a modding community that derail TWC's purpose of creating mods and not debates or writing blogs like "what i eat in my breakfast" , is no1 priority. If modding dies -and you should know better than me- all the rest will be pointless.

TWC has never been about just modding. In fact, when I joined, the modding scene here was pretty dead and the '.Org' was much more active. By the time you joined, I was the TW Hex and the TW forums were much more vibrant, so yeh, you're welvome . There is actually a modding discord where a lot of TWC modders pretty much only talk about modding. I don't have a link (at work) but maybe someone else can point you to it.

 

[Flinn]

I've moved a bunch of unrelated posts from the Tiered Milestone Award thread to the Townhall.

Please feel free to continue discussing here, thanks

 

[PikeStance]

The N Korean generals image should be placed in the Op

 

[ggggtotalwarrior]

Personally I welcome out new North Korean overlords

 

[Sir Adrian]

Those medals are a valid form of body armor.

 

[Dismounted Feudal Knight]

At least one North Korea is necessary on this internet.

 

[PikeStance]

Totally well earned; look at this...

 

[ggggtotalwarrior]

All those military victories over the undeveloped capitalist pig-dog westerners really add up

 

[PikeStance]

All kidding aside, Flinn moved Antonius' post/ tangent here and he cannot post here.

 

[Nicholas Rush]

Curial banner competition opened this morning.

 

[PikeStance]

It really hurts me to say that Pike came up with a similar idea years ago.

I do not want to start a divergent discussion on completely unrelated proposal, so here i post the older proposals for patronization

I was not the originator. Omni was and mega took it up after Omni.

Patronus Award, October 16, 2019 - PikeStance
[Amendment] Pater's Civic Crown, March 02, 2016 - Mega Tortas de Bodemloze
[Amendment] Pater's Civic Crown, September 09, 2015 - Mega Tortas de Bodemloze
[Amendment] Patronisation Incentive Bill, Part II {Pater's Civic Crown}, May 19, 2012 - Mega Tortas de Bodemloze
[Amendment] Patronisation Incentive Bill, May 17, 2011 - Omnipotent-Q

Probably one of the most interesting aspect about these proposals, the less people patronized the less support this proposal got.
There are some odd oppositions too; it would devalue citizenship (though, people still needed to be voted in), Giving an award is not necessarily an incentive (that's generally the purpose of the award in the first place), It probably will not work (not sure that is a reason to oppose, etc...

Anyway, there's your history.

 

[ggggtotalwarrior]

Mega Tortas was pushing super hard for that Amendment.

 

[Flinn]

All kidding aside, Flinn moved Antonius' post/ tangent here and he cannot post here.

yes indeed I missed the fact that his Citizenship is still suspended, my bad. Anyways I could not move that to the CCT, so that was the only option.

Commodus has already moved the discussion to the CCT, so Anthonius can move the discussion there or start a dedicated new thread in the Prothalamos. I'll notify him

 

[PikeStance]

Personally I’m of the opinion the Curia is Peepeepoopoo and should be abolished

If we are being honest, we should all agree. let's look at the facts here.

• It is difficult to have any discussion that doesn't get personal.
• The level of participation is extremely low. A good voter turnout is about 13 votes.
• Judging by my "third class" reaction, it is not likely they will be any patronages forthcoming. (under 8 seems to be the accepted norm.)
• Citizenship itself is not value by new or old members.
• The institution (The Curia) isn't a place anyone wants to "propose" an idea.
• An absent owner; why should they be a class that "promotes" the site if the owner himself can't be bothered.

 

[Flinn]

If we are being honest, we should all agree. let's look at the facts here.

• It is difficult to have any discussion that doesn't get personal.
• The level of participation is extremely low. A good voter turnout is about 13 votes.
• Judging by my "third class" reaction, it is not likely they will be any patronages forthcoming. (under 8 seems to be the accepted norm.)
• Citizenship itself is not value by new or old members.
• The institution (The Curia) isn't a place anyone wants to "propose" an idea.
• An absent owner; why should they be a class that "promotes" the site if the owner himself can't be bothered.

I might be addressing all these points not far in the future

Also, re the discussion taking place on Lordsith's Opifex proposal:

I don't necessarily discourage awards for past deeds, but I think we can do more by looking for people who have no bling at all and are un or under recognized, vs awards for actions likely already covered by an Artifex patronage or an Opifex. But again, in this case there's plenty of subsequent material. If someone was not awarded, they should not be voted down. My preference is in terms of priority for proposals in the first place, which this case does fit given it is backed by later contributions, including now where we could use all that we can get.

I'm personally reticent to propose awards for inactive members, but I won't oppose anyone proposing some on the sole base of inactivity. Unless someone has officially retired (like Ferrets for instance), there's always a chance that they will return to be active.

 

[PikeStance]

If we are going to give awards to inactive members, then Kaunitz is one for sure. His research is the basis for every single battle realism mod for ETW and NTW.

 

[MIKE GOLF]

If we are going to give awards to inactive members, then Kaunitz is one for sure. His research is the basis for every single battle realism mod for ETW and NTW.

Propose him, based on the the strength of your proposal I would support this. I don't play ETW or NTW so I am not cognizant of who has done what outside the Med II forums.

 

[PikeStance]

Propose him, based on the the strength of your proposal I would support this. I don't play ETW or NTW so I am not cognizant of who has done what outside the Med II forums.

While he would definitely be voted in favor, is it really worth our efforts to recognized inactive members?


I found this looking about....

Any person with 50 posts of good quality is elligble for civitateship. Anyone can nominate!


Stand forward if you like to take a part in the running of your forum!


Your forum needs you!

This is from tBP (the Black Prince) in December of 2003

I should let you know that at that time, you self-nominated and then they would vote for you. Later, a "sponsor" was required.

 

[PikeStance]

Some of you may find this interesting...a link to the Syntagma.
There were thins being done that probably should not have been stopped.

 

[Flinn]

For the records, the New Opifex Image Competition is now over and we will soon have a new Opifex Image!

 

[PikeStance]

To be perfectly honest, I was torn between the old one and the winner. I brought in the wife and she said the same thing. Flip a coin in the end. I won't divulge the winner

 

[Belisarius]

Some of you may find this interesting...a link to the Syntagma.
There were thins being done that probably should not have been stopped.

Pfft Syntagma 2.0 was much better. Was written by a group of legends.

 

[PikeStance]

Pfft Syntagma 2.0 was much better. Was written by a group of legends.

You have a link to it? I found this one through happenstance in my "historical research."

 

[ggggtotalwarrior]

An old head emerges from the shadows