The Debate Thread

[Prodigal]

Status of same-sex marriage and other types of same-sex partnerships in Europe.
Dark Blue = Same-sex marriage
Blue = Other type of partnership
Light Blue = Unregistered cohabitation1
Yellow = Issue under political consideration
Grey = Unrecognized
Red = Constitution defines marriage as a union between a man and a woman

May the Orthodox stand firm in their renunciation of that which is sinful and vile, a mockery of the pure state that is marriage, and a joy for the evil one.

 

[Dan the Man]

I thought he got an erection from looking at another guy. That would be quite pro-gay marriage.

 

[The Stig]

Well he said log, and I had just watched Beavis and Butthead, so...

May the Orthodox stand firm in their renunciation of that which is sinful and vile, a mockery of the pure state that is marriage, and a joy for the evil one.

Aw, Kaits. Just when I was getting to like you.

 

[Dan the Man]

Oi vey...

To veer this sinking ship away, Herman Cain just dropped out of the presidential elections. Discuss.

 

[EmperorBatman999]

I liked him actually for awhile, before all his controversy surfaced again.

Anybody else suspect his competition is behind all the resurfacing sexual harassment and affair claims?

 

[Dan the Man]

It's definitely possible, and if they are it has worked.

 

[Agamemnon]

I know, it was in response to the opinion that could be inferred from your post.

My stance on gays:

Homosexuality is a perversion of nature and a filthy, diseased and perverted lifestyle. Homosexuals cannot reproduce, so it is only logical that they recruit others into their perverted lifestyle. One of the ways in which they do this is in shopping malls and other public gathering locations. Police officers will tell you that homosexual predators will hang out in shopping malls and similar type locations looking for young teenagers that are in a partying mood and supply the finances for the party to get close to the youth. They hang around youth centers and music concerts and one of the newest and sickest ways of recruiting is now through adoption. When two men or two women adopt a child it only stands to reason that the child will be raised as a homosexual or lesbian. Homosexuals will deny these alegations of perverted recruitment but they have been proven to be true time and time again. This perverted practice of adoption is all to clear, common sense tells us that when a man or woman raises a child, they raise that child to the standard both moral and sexual that their lifestyle mirrors.

Homosexuals are the predominant carriers of the AIDS virus with 90% of all AIDS cases coming through homosexuality and or IV drug use. What no one tells the American people is that this is a self imposed sickness, if homosexuals would stop their perverted lifestyle and drug use we would not have the problem we have today with AIDS and other venereal diseases.

I'm a bit surprised that I wasn't asked to source this.

 

[Dan the Man]

I'm not...

 

[Dave Strider]

Oi vey...

To veer this sinking ship away, Herman Cain just dropped out of the presidential elections. Discuss.

Finally.

 

[Dan the Man]

But now America doesn't get Toucan Stubs!

 

[Dave Strider]

And now America doesn't get Herman Cain.

A fair trade-off if you ask me.

 

[The Stig]

Ah, I wanted to hear the black people talk about who was more black.

 

[Prodigal]

Aw, Kaits. Just when I was getting to like you.

Maybe you can like me as a person instead of based on what I believe.

 

[Agamemnon]

If you have different ideologies, where do you have common ground? The only thing I have in common with Fred is TW, and the only thing Marshy, for example, has in common with Dan is TW (and being an IH Old Guard).

 

[The Stig]

Maybe you can like me as a person instead of based on what I believe.

It was more how you said it than if you say it.

 

[Dan the Man]

If you have different ideologies, where do you have common ground? The only thing I have in common with Fred is TW, and the only thing Marshy, for example, has in common with Dan is TW (and being an IH Old Guard).

We have common ground in the way we treat each other. Some of my best friends are the friends that I argue ideas with. You don't have to agree completely with somebody to like them. For God's sake, I'd probably hate all of you if that were true (when the truth is quite the opposite ).

 

[Agamemnon]

You know the world has gone crazy when people are advocating gays on facebook and not listening to reason...

 

[Dan the Man]

That all depends on what your reasoning is.

 

[Prodigal]

It was more how you said it than if you say it.

What I said is true.

 

[Agamemnon]

When people advocate sin and when you tell them not to advocate sin and they respond with "well stop judging people, Jesus wouldn't like that," it's depressing. Especially when you admit that you need not to judge and that you need to work on that, but then they continue with the PC that is destroying America.

 

[Dan the Man]

When people advocate sin and when you tell them not to advocate sin and they respond with "well stop judging people, Jesus wouldn't like that," it's depressing. Especially when you admit that you need not to judge and that you need to work on that, but then they continue with the PC that is destroying America.

Try taking it from a more diplomatic angle. I find that calling something sin outright (sin though it may be) simply makes the person you are discussing with no longer want to talk to you.

 

[Prodigal]

It is better to remain silent and pick your battles. And when you do go to confront, have nothing but love and the best intentions in your heart, to help them.

 

[Agamemnon]

I guess, it's just hard to watch society collapse.

 

[Prodigal]

There was no hope for the society from the beginning, when it was built on the cracked foundations of democracy.

 

[Agamemnon]

Oh, like how the Russian Empire was the most stable country on earth, and because of its founding in Theocracy it has survived to this day as a world power?

 

[Dan the Man]

Oh, like how the Russian Empire was the most stable country on earth, and because of its founding in Theocracy it has survived to this day as a world power?

The interference of less benign forces could be to blame for that. That said, I don't think I agree with Kaits on society collapsing due to democracy so much as society is collapsing due to wrongdoing and imperfection on the part of all people regardless of whatever government they happen to be under. Democracy would work just fine without that because everybody would make the right choice 100% of the time.

 

[The Stig]

What I said is true.

From your perspective, yes. But you could have made the same point less offensively.

 

[Dan the Man]

From your perspective, yes. But you could have made the same point less offensively.

Stig...do you know who you're talking to?
By the way, I wouldn't quite say offensive so much as blunt, direct, etc.

 

[Majonga]

There was no hope for the society from the beginning, when it was built on the cracked foundations of democracy.

"Democracy is a terrible way to run a country, accept all the other ways are even worse" - Winston Churchill.

Not that I agree with Churchill, but what do you think functions better than democracy, I am curious.

The interference of less benign forces could be to blame for that. That said, I don't think I agree with Kaits on society collapsing due to democracy so much as society is collapsing due to wrongdoing and imperfection on the part of all people regardless of whatever government they happen to be under. Democracy would work just fine without that because everybody would make the right choice 100% of the time.

That depends on whether or not you believe in a natural law of right and wrong I don't believe they are fixed principles.

 

[Watercress]

Personally, i wouldn't say Society's collapsing at all. Rather, it's just evolving, though it remains at a constant base line of being quite for most people.