longbeards dlc 7.99?

[Karnil Vark Khaitan]

Whats frustrating is that I would of paid ($15+) for a UI/Family tree DLC similar to what was introduced in Attila TW but to be retrofitted back into Rome 2.

Something that possibly would greatly add back to my game experience, charging me for three factions to play the same lifeless campaign doesn't change anything about that shallow title.

Ahhh so its the base game, then the DLC would not really do anything for you, but for me? I would buy it, the quest thingie sounds interestingly enough, and it would be fun to see how it is implemented. (and how to copy it to other factions )

 

[stevehoos]

I assure you there would be people defending it. They think everything this company does is a divine blessing and we should be thankful even for being ripped off.

This is their target audience, there's plenty to go around out there as evidenced by the backers in this thread alone. It's a free market though right? Spend your money on whatever you want, even if it is a total ripoff.

 

[veverčák]

Ok. How bout CA cuts out Eastern Roman Empire and make it as Day 1 DLC for 7.99. Will you still be cool with it? Because clearly this what happened in Rome 2 when CA cuts off Sparta out of the game. And I ask you again, is that kind of business strategy ok with you still?

It is CA right to do your sugest thing dear Garensterz. And it is our right as customers to react:

a) Pressure on the company: Literally cry and moan until whole internet is fill with echoes of said cry and moan. If more and more people start raising this issue outside TWC and official forums. Let the youtubers, game journalist, game enthusiasts and whole other people on internet to raise the issue of "Another greedy company doing greedy stuff for little extra money". This should put pressure on the company to change its policy. Probably the most famous of this solution could be infamous Mass Effect 3 ending.

b) Wait for steam summer/winter/normal sale and get all content for very low price. It is just that simple. The Crusader Kings 2 costed on release 40 Euro. Last summer sale base game with all dlc content (150 Euro worth) costed 40 Euro.

 

[Epic28]

This is their target audience, there's plenty to go around out there as evidenced by the backers in this thread alone. It's a free market though right? Spend your money on whatever you want, even if it is a total ripoff.

Or their parents money in most cases with video games these days.

Most adults are aware of the value of the dollar and while we all have $8 to spare, it comes down to the basic principle of value for dollar. CA treats us all like children unfortunately.

It is CA right to do your sugest thing dear Garensterz. And it is our right as customers to react:

a) Pressure on the company: Literally cry and moan until whole internet is fill with echoes of said cry and moan. If more and more people start raising this issue outside TWC and official forums. Let the youtubers, game journalist, game enthusiasts and whole other people on internet to raise the issue of "Another greedy company doing greedy stuff for little extra money". This should put pressure on the company to change its policy. Probably the most famous of this solution could be infamous Mass Effect 3 ending.

b) Wait for steam summer/winter/normal sale and get all content for very low price. It is just that simple. The Crusader Kings 2 costed on release 40 Euro. Last summer sale base game with all dlc content (150 Euro worth) costed 40 Euro.

c) Don't buy anything anymore.

 

[Humble Warrior]

Or their parents money in most cases with video games these days.

Most adults are aware of the value of the dollar and while we all have $8 to spare, it comes down to the basic principle of value for dollar. CA treats us all like children unfortunately.

I agree a lot with this. Kid`s who don`t value their money and when they`re being screwed over, even thanking CA for the deed!

They may not appreciate their money, but CA certainly does. CA are not the only ones though! I`ve been looking at some other games and wow, they nickel and dime the customer to a shameful degree. Some DLCs come to nearly £100 altogether when the base game is only £20 or less. It`s so obvious that sharks swim in these waters. Beware.


Doesn`t make it any more right for CA to do it, and it is even more unethical when they take advantage of this.

The best time to buy is a year or two later when everything is packed as one for a fiver. I just spotted Mortal Kombat Komplete for the PC (I never knew there was a PC version, was always a bit of a Mortal kombat fan). It has everything and for just £6. That`s the time to bag them. Pity it`s on Steam though...

 

[Garensterz]

It is CA right to do your sugest thing dear Garensterz. And it is our right as customers to react:

a) Pressure on the company: Literally cry and moan until whole internet is fill with echoes of said cry and moan. If more and more people start raising this issue outside TWC and official forums. Let the youtubers, game journalist, game enthusiasts and whole other people on internet to raise the issue of "Another greedy company doing greedy stuff for little extra money". This should put pressure on the company to change its policy. Probably the most famous of this solution could be infamous Mass Effect 3 ending.

b) Wait for steam summer/winter/normal sale and get all content for very low price. It is just that simple. The Crusader Kings 2 costed on release 40 Euro. Last summer sale base game with all dlc content (150 Euro worth) costed 40 Euro.

If this is the case then. I'll go for option "C" "again". There is no need to explain what option C is.

 

[veverčák]

c) Don't buy anything anymore.

True, instead of wasting our time on this childish little thing, we should be making world better place! And what is better way to start our journey than to ruin all those developers and publisher and vendors! Let them be the first, who will taste only small portion of our better world!

In all seriousness. My suggestion b) already has build in this option. The CA and Sega are only interest in first sales from first 6 month. After this period you can freely buy any game you want because company should get the message - Sales went to hell = something wrong. What would be their conclusion is rather hard to guess, but still. Message sent and receive.

 

[Epic28]

True, instead of wasting our time on this childish little thing, we should be making world better place! And what is better way to start our journey than to ruin all those developers and publisher and vendors! Let them be the first, who will taste only small portion of our better world!

Or you know, I just won't buy it because they're not good games...

 

[Musteline]

omg the game costs 70 brl, these dlc are 12, they should be 5 at maximum, won't buy the game unless its a sale.

 

[SgtLong]

Like I said it should be free already. It was going to be gifted had we won the Company of Heroes vs battle anyway. Plus its not much of a DLC its 3 house subdivision next door to each other so the giving more is really not so. All the entire groupings of factions are this way on this game. You can not expect good re-playability if your starting a new campaign right where you just basically ended one......

 

[veverčák]

Or you know, I just won't buy it because they're not good games...

OK, more power to you!

 

[priam11]

Ok. How bout CA cuts out Eastern Roman Empire and make it as Day 1 DLC for 7.99. Will you still be cool with it? Because clearly this what happened in Rome 2 when CA cuts off Sparta out of the game. And I ask you again, is that kind of business strategy ok with you still?

If I am fine with it, I will pay for it. If I am not ok with it, I will freely choose not to buy it. It is a simple principle.

People go on that if we raise a big enough stink on this issue, it will somehow change the business practice. Question: How is that working out for everyone so far?

CA is not the first company that does this nor will they be the last. Quite frankly if I was on the Board of Directors, I would be pretty ok with it as an additional source of income. But then again, I am just a greedy and soulless capitalist.

 

[Humble Warrior]

If I am fine with it, I will pay for it. If I am not ok with it, I will freely choose not to buy it. It is a simple principle.

People go on that if we raise a big enough stink on this issue, it will somehow change the business practice. Question: How is that working out for everyone so far?

CA is not the first company that does this nor will they be the last. Quite frankly if I was on the Board of Directors, I would be pretty ok with it as an additional source of income. But then again, I am just a greedy and soulless capitalist.

You certainly aren`t helping towards a better tomorrow, that`s for sure.

 

[the_mango55]

Ok. How bout CA cuts out Eastern Roman Empire and make it as Day 1 DLC for 7.99. Will you still be cool with it? Because clearly this what happened in Rome 2 when CA cuts off Sparta out of the game. And I ask you again, is that kind of business strategy ok with you still?

If CA cut the ERE out of the game I wouldn't have bought it in the first place because it wouldn't have been a good value to me. If you bought the game for the price they asked and are reasonably satisfied with the content you got for your money, then complaining about DLC doesn't make sense. Sure it would be nice if it was free, but it would be nice if my car came with the premium package free too.

 

[Vanders]

I'm sorry everyone but I was blinded and corrupted by the evil temptations of CA and more content, I gave in and bought the dlc immediately and so became part of the problem.

But I have repented I tell you, I quickly regretted it and will not let you guys down next time!


That wasn't sarcasm in case it sounded like it.

 

[Huberto]

If CA cut the ERE out of the game I wouldn't have bought it in the first place because it wouldn't have been a good value to me. If you bought the game for the price they asked and are reasonably satisfied with the content you got for your money, then complaining about DLC doesn't make sense. Sure it would be nice if it was free, but it would be nice if my car came with the premium package free too.

If they'd left the ERE off the game as DLC many folks would have bought both anyway. The problem here is partly seen by the difference between video games and your example, cars. Purpose of cars is to move you around and the industry is heavily regulated for safety, mileage, performance etc.

On the other hand, video games are like other forms of cheap entertainment and are lightly regulated. And once we get to the $40-and-over price point in video games, we're in the luxury category. So it becomes an awkward conversation about what to cut that is to be sold separately. Is it worthy enough to exclude from the game? Is it important enough to include?

The only thing I can think of that's remotely applicable in cheap entertainment is deciding what tracks to leave off the album. But an album of music is a collection of songs. A video game is not a collection of anything.

 

[Gaidin]

The problem is that most of the core gamers of the TW franchise (and i see them all on TWC) will buy it no matter what. Don't misunderstood me, i don't say you are a bunch of hypocrites but if nobody bought them, there never will be any DLC to avoid the financial loss of the companies.

Most of the gamers today get upset by this business practice but they are all good customers and buy them anyway, then they go on the forums and cry out scandal and so on. Flooding the forums about DLC is getting old, you don't like it, don't buy it but don't fact to be the alpha wolf around the sheeps.

I don't like this practice too but i buy it anyway, why? Because i love those games and i mod them like hell and use assets of all DLC. There is not that much games with this lifetime, with TW you could past hundreds hours on it easily not like most of the games released today where you pay a unfair price for ten or fifteen hours of game.

I'd rather buy a DLC and get comparatively good content than have it rushed out and not, but that's me. Maybe I'm biased with a job or something. Charging for a DLC could be as much a corporate policy as anything but who the hell knows until you see a more independent company dropping things out for free.

Like ANet. Of course, people buy useful things from their online GW2 store anyway, but what do I know.

 

[Totalheadache]

I like beards but hey am not paying more than a couple of ££ for this..I'll wait for sale...

 

[No Leaf Clover]

This is more a matter of content for the price, to me. Won't buy this one, but if CA released a kind of enhancement for the politics side of the game, you know, à la CKII, I'd gladly pay for it.

 

[a_wizard]

8 dollars for a faction pack before the base games glaring bugsand (amd based performance patches) are fixed is awful, i just think its very poor pr to keep selling stuff for a product which needs enhancement FIRST

 

[Fanest]

This is more a matter of content for the price, to me. Won't buy this one, but if CA released a kind of enhancement for the politics side of the game, you know, à la CKII, I'd gladly pay for it.

well said sir, i stand for this as well

 

[Huberto]

This is more a matter of content for the price, to me. Won't buy this one, but if CA released a kind of enhancement for the politics side of the game, you know, à la CKII, I'd gladly pay for it.

A politics enhancement shouldn't be sold two weeks after release either.

 

[Fredrin]

I've got no time at all for this meaningless DLC bollox. The only thing that adds one iota of interest to this is the event/quest "the Lay of Ybor" and if that plays out how we can expect it to, that will also be underwhelming.

If 18 million people so far have paid out for this kind of pap, that's great... if we see evidence of some of the proceeds going towards game design where it counts. We've seen some in Attila but nowhere near enough to make up for the damage that DLC-milking does to the design of the base game.

It's just a cruddy practice. I wish they'd go back to the days of thoughtful and well produced expansions.

 

[jakeswe]

It has a lot of decent content, much better than Rome 2 packs. I'll buy it and I will be very content in doing it. DLC are fine, they add content that would never have been in the original game. If you don't like it, don't buy it.

 

[Garensterz]

It has a lot of decent content, much better than Rome 2 packs. I'll buy it and I will be very content in doing it. DLC are fine, they add content that would never have been in the original game. If you don't like it, don't buy it.

Viking forefathers and longbeards are already "IN" the game. It doesn't add anything new or any new content because it's already "IN" the game.

 

[spiderknight]

It has a lot of decent content, much better than Rome 2 packs. I'll buy it and I will be very content in doing it. DLC are fine, they add content that would never have been in the original game. If you don't like it, don't buy it.

It just kills me that people are this ignorant. A muli million dollar franchise is just gonna randomly add crap into their game if they have time with out planning or forethought? riiiiiiiight. They just make this dlc cause they had a bit of extra time and theyre your friends and want to give you a better game. They went out of their way to do this for you.........

 

[Emperor Arcturus Mengsk]

TBH I don't care about the Longbeards DLC because at least, the added factions are germanic, and there are germanic factions in their spots already.

The picts etc. having norse units though, that's painful to see

 

[Fedual]

Whats frustrating is that I would of paid ($15+) for a UI/Family tree DLC similar to what was introduced in Attila TW but to be retrofitted back into Rome 2.

Something that possibly would greatly add back to my game experience, charging me for three factions to play the same lifeless campaign doesn't change anything about that shallow title.

You mean that Longbeards are shallow, not Attila itself i hope , i mean the impact of the UI & family tree in Attila makes it very immersive. I would love to pay 15-20 euro for a Rome II version of the Attila features.


And in response to the topic of the thread;
I will not be buying any longbeards or vikings unitil the summer steam sale hits, because i simply dont fancy unlocking those factions. Franks, Saxons, ERE & WRE is keeping me very busy & satisfied at the moment. I regularly spend that money every day for lunch but i wont spend it on unlocking these factions because i really dont need it or find any desire to play those factions. What i will pay for in a heartbeat though is the blood & gore dlc for Attila.

 

[veverčák]

What is this weird obsession with cars and other physical goods as examples when people talk about video games? Games are services. You do not own them, you operate them under the license. Much more fitting example would be one with lawyer - You need his advice, you pay. You need further clarification or another advice, you pay again. Or do you believe you do not need to pay him for his services anymore, because you already paid once?

Another issue is: The CA actually provides us more content than with BI for same, or even cheaper price (40 Euro have different vallue today then tomorrow). 10 playable factions, 11 unplayable (including Rebels), 2 historical battles, 87 regions. Attila: 10 playable factions, more then 50 factions which are not playable/with dlc, 9 historical battles, more then 150 regions. So, was original BI just underwhelming content wise?

 

[Gaidin]

So yea, any response to the companies that can dump free DLCs on their games(assuming you log on at the right time) in the form of ArenaNet, but sell any-place utilities(that you normally have to visit a town for) for real money so they can afford to.