Markets versus food surplus

[Puzzlemaker]

So, having a food surplus gives your towns a global growth bonus, increasing the amount they make every turn. Markets give a fixed commerce income for one town.

So in the long run, is it better to have a large food surplus, or have lots of markets?

Anyone crunch the numbers yet?

 

[Gaizokubanou]

Umm pretty straight forward. 1st market costs 0 food but gives you decent static wealth and 5 wealth growth. 2nd market (one that costs 1 food) gives single province 5 extra wealth growth and a bit of static taxable wealth. So you need 6 or provinces to make surplus food worthwhile there. 3rd market gets little tricky because it's 2 food but whooping 20 extra wealth growth and huge sum of static wealth. Just look at the number and balance them. But I think it's never a bad practice to have markets in at least few cities for metsuke and focused wealth growth on a location that you can protect easily.

 

[Sgt.Valenzuela]

So, having a food surplus gives your towns a global growth bonus, increasing the amount they make every turn. Markets give a fixed commerce income for one town.

So in the long run, is it better to have a large food surplus, or have lots of markets?

Anyone crunch the numbers yet?

well remember this. To upgrade your Castle it requires food supply +1 per lvl. You can easily run yourself into the negatives and soon find yourself in rebellion. So your going to have to manage what towns get the Castle upgrades just as the markets so you will have to balance it out.

 

[Kallaisbananen]

This is exactly what happend to me yesterday I think. Thats why I need your help here. I decided to occupy all provinces I conquered and decided to just max their income so I built farms and markets. Upgraded markets to merchants guild and the farms to the (dont remember the name, the third one I guess as it gives three food). Suddenly without warning pretty much all my provinces starts to starve and a turn or two later my whole empire collapsed due to rebellions.

At first I thought my cityes grew too fast with all the food surplus I had and then just went over board but from what I read here it most probably derives frin the mechants guild eating all my food. Hehe, didnt read the tiny text.

I dont know really what best, havent started any numbers on it. But Sake Den will give happiness so a castle, market 1 and sake den 1 and then max the farms feels solid and add upgrades along with how the farms develop.

 

[raistlinmajere8]

I just concentrate on getting to the third level farming as fast as I can. Farming is good, and allows you to build your castles up without going into the negatives in food supply.

 

[Chris1982]

Why isn't there are level 5 farm? You get food shortages way too soon with a max. of level 4 farms.

 

[Gaizokubanou]

You are not suppose to max out castle and market development all over... Develope your castles in provinces that matter (near the front, choke or with nice unit upgrading buffs), and same idea for upgrade markets.

 

[ParaB]

I find it quite easy to balance food requirements and castle upgrades. As has been said already, there's no need to upgrade every single castle in your provinces.

 

[Xatham]

I like to have extra food production for a while, +5 gold per city per turn adds up to quite a bit!

if you do it for only 10 turns, you'll have earned an accrued extra 275 taxable income per province, and you'll keep the extra 50 income for the rest of the game even if you then make use of your food surplus.

 

[sabaku_no_gaara]

going in the negative food suply has it's advantages tough, your people rebel, and you can train your armies and gain experience for your generals without having to go to war with annyone.

having been destroyed in every game so far, I've decided to avoid war whenever I can and try and build up a sizeable army and a well fortified castle, I'm more then happy to unleash my troops on rebelling peasants

 

[Gaizokubanou]

going in the negative food suply has it's advantages tough, your people rebel, and you can train your armies and gain experience for your generals without having to go to war with annyone.

having been destroyed in every game so far, I've decided to avoid war whenever I can and try and build up a sizeable army and a well fortified castle, I'm more then happy to unleash my troops on rebelling peasants

This basically get your fame (or whatever that thing that gets you noticed by the Shogun) up and kills the wealth of the town that is rebelling (food shortage is -25 modifier) without any economic gain.

Just go fight against your rivals and take some provinces if you want to fight something, it's much better that way.