The Anglosphere

[The Super Pope]

ok then the Ottoman empire shares the blame, you know what...every nation in the world shares the blame if we go like this

That's the argument you seem to have gone for.

I'm going to blame the Swiss for the holocaust because by remaining neutral they didn't help defeat Germany

 

[SepulchreUK]

That's the argument you seem to have gone for.

I'm going to blame the Swiss for the holocaust because by remaining neutral they didn't help defeat Germany

I blame the Swiss anyway, just sat there hording all the gold and going Skiing. Those rat bastards

 

[The Super Pope]

I blame the Swiss anyway, just sat there hording all the gold and going Skiing. Those rat bastards

To become a citizen, every Swiss child has to complete a ceremony where they kill a baby and eat it's heart

1 in every 4 Swiss foetuses are aborted in sacrifice to Roger Federer

 

[adamove]

Uk or brittain it's not euro or western county, it's just a bunch of dirty midgets and snob lords, soon to be called Little Pakistan

 

[SepulchreUK]

To become a citizen, every Swiss child has to complete a ceremony where they kill a baby and eat it's heart

1 in every 4 Swiss foetuses are aborted in sacrifice to Roger Federer

Ah so that's why he looks so demonic all the time. Oh and that's probably why they gave him that cow when he first won Wimbledon, not as a traditional gesture of pride, but for sacrifice!

 

[SepulchreUK]

Uk or brittain it's not euro or western county, it's just a bunch of dirty midgets and snob lords, soon to be called Little Pakistan

Aye its so crap millions of your countrymen come here to be plumbers

 

[YuriVII]

The Celtic invasion, Roman, Saxons, Angles, Jutes, Normans, Vikings, the Irish raiders & Scottish incursions. The British isles have a long and splattered history of invasion so I discount your claims of continental vunerability spawning a different mindset.

Ahh good point, but then again there was no strong state structure until the Normans came. After the Normans established themselves, there were no more invasions of the British Isles by an outside power, primarily thanks to your fleet. I think this allowed you to develop under less vulnerability than say the French who bordered the Germans, the Balkans who got swallowed up by the Ottomans and Hapsburgs, the Germans who have invaded everyone and by everyone, and the Russians who experienced one of the most bloody invasions in history only 60 years ago. I do observe that sea empires are ruled differently than those that are land-based.

Your islands have not experienced invasion from an outside force for a long time, for almost 800 years and after unification with the Scots your biggest power on the island was absorbed into a unified state. I do think that THIS does contribute to how your country developed. If your country has been under threat of invasion or even occupation for most of its existence, the ruling powers are going to enact laws and regulations that could be considered extreme but vital to the continued survival of the state.

Look at Japan. Yes they had an Emperor, but usually it was the feudal lords who held the real power. This is another example of a maritime state having many different poles of power within their internal affairs. So I do think there is some legitimacy for the theory. FYI, I am not trying to discount the hard life lived by Britons, I am just trying to put Britain in comparison with the continental Europeans, who lets face it, have seen more war on their own lands than Britain has.

 

[The Super Pope]

Uk or brittain it's not euro or western county, it's just a bunch of dirty midgets and snob lords, soon to be called Little Pakistan

Perhaps, but unlike poles, the back of our heads aren't flat. Swings and roundabouts innit?

 

[Bovril]

Too bad these moderates aren't as visible as they should be...

Naturally if your dominant narative is one of conflict between culture and ideologies, moderates are not likely to feature heavily. I'm sure its difficult for normal Iranians to find out about US moderates as regards conflict with them despite the fact most of the population (as opposed to the political class) fall into this category. Untill peopl in democracies start demanding that the dominant theme of relations with the middle east be one of cooperation rather than conflict and dominance moderates on both sides of the divide will be ignored. It'd probably make for rubish pictures on the evening news though.

 

[SepulchreUK]

Ahh good point, but then again there was no strong state structure until the Normans came. After the Normans established themselves, there were no more invasions of the British Isles by an outside power, primarily thanks to your fleet. I think this allowed you to develop under less vulnerability than say the French who bordered the Germans, the Balkans who got swallowed up by the Ottomans and Hapsburgs, the Germans who have invaded everyone and by everyone, and the Russians who experienced one of the most bloody invasions in history only 60 years ago. I do observe that sea empires are ruled differently than those that are land-based.

Your islands have not experienced invasion from an outside force for a long time, for almost 800 years and after unification with the Scots your biggest power on the island was absorbed into a unified state. I do think that THIS does contribute to how your country developed. If your country has been under threat of invasion or even occupation for most of its existence, the ruling powers are going to enact laws and regulations that could be considered extreme but vital to the continued survival of the state.

Look at Japan. Yes they had an Emperor, but usually it was the feudal lords who held the real power. This is another example of a maritime state having many different poles of power within their internal affairs. So I do think there is some legitimacy for the theory. FYI, I am not trying to discount the hard life lived by Britons, I am just trying to put Britain in comparison with the continental Europeans, who lets face it, have seen more war on their own lands than Britain has.

It wasn't to do with our fleet. When William the Conqueror took the throne of England he unified two thrones. The throne of England and the throne of Norman France. This created a buffer and having England gave William a manpower and strength that made him a real threat to anyone who wanted to challenge.

By having French territories the subsequent centuries saw not a focus of invading England but of removing Englishmen from France.

The importance of the Royal Navy did not have a real impact until Europe as a whole started to become hugely maritime in the High Middle Ages.