Carl von Döbeln
Crossing the Rubicon
i am just wondering what kind of cannons that will be in the game?

heres a fine example of Shrapnel PWNAGE!
makes you wanna rethink that its a standing shootout
what about canister, I thought that exploded with the bullets in? or did the cannons shoot the bullets like a shotgun?.
Well canister does not explode per se but works just like a shotgun. The canister shot produces an arc of shrapness or musket balls which can shatter whole formations in ranges under 400 yards. I wonder if they will include grape shot which was also used extensively during the period and had greater range. Personally I'd love to see this since it would give the artillery general more choices. I definitely want the transision between types of ammunition to be as smooth as possible. For instance if a cannon is loading roundshot already, let him fire that round first.
Sincerely yours,
That's true but Lt. Henry Shrapnel's invention changed that. He saw the great uses of the case shot and endeavoured to invent something that allowed it's use at longer ranges. Thus he invented a thin hollowed out cannon ball with a timed fuse on it. The explosives inside the ball was just enough to penetrate the cannon shall and send the balls inside spraying outward. If the fuse was set properply the shells could be very useful and increased the range of case shot from 300m to 1100m. He first called it "Spherical Case shot". But people called it shrapnel after him instead and that's where shrapnel came from. The British adopted it in 1803 and Wellington even used it against Napoleon, most notably at Waterloo.
And you're still forgetting that howitzers did fire exploding shells.
The regulation company of foot artillery had six guns, either 6- or 12- pounders, and two howitzers; a horse artillery company had six 6- pounders or sometimes four of those and two howitzers.
- Swords Around a Throne - Napoleons Grande Armée, P.258, John R Elting
Well mortars and howitzers were mainly used for seiging cities and fortresses because they fire in a high arc allowing your lob rounds over walls and so on. I haven't read much about mortars being used in battles in the field.
i dissagree during this time period cannons really came into there own as an anti personel weapon. and as for them being used in the field, napoleon was the father of this tactic which is part of the reason he was so successfull![]()
The British had Shrapnel shells - invented in 1784 by Henry Shrapnel, a lieutenant (later lieutenant colonel after his invention's success) in the Royal Artillery, and adopted by the British Army in 1803.Great video. But in Napoleonic times regular artillery (cannon) did not fire explosive ammunition. Mortars did however fire such rounds and spread a lot of shrapnel death the problem was the short range of the mortar. The problem was fixed in 1823, after the Napoleonic Wars by the Frenchman Henri-Joseph Paixhans when he introduced the so-called Paixhans gun to the navy.
The British usually had 5-6 x 6 pdrs and 1-2 x 5.5 inch howitzers, or a battery of 6 x 5.5 inch howitzers. The Prussians nominally had batteries of 6 x 6 pdrs and 2 x 7 inch howitzers, but this varied greatly due to lack of money and equipment, and of course the retreat to Wavre (this information pertains to the Battle of Waterloo). In field battle, I would expect that the howitzers/mortars not employed by the French in the Grande Batterie would have themselves been grouped together and fired at targets being assaulted by French infantry (howitzers and mortars could fire for longer because of their more vertical than horizontal trajectory - over friendly troops). It is however perplexing why these howitzers ad mortars were not employed to fire carcasses against Hougoumont, or indeed why they were not used at all against the farmhouse - a fire in the barn or any of the farm buildings would have been disastrous for the British defenders.One can only guess that other countries had similar relations of howitzers / cannon in their artillery and that field armies had used that set up for quite some time. As for mortars were most certainly used in Borodino by the french. But as to how extencive they where used in fieldbattle I really do not know.
I agree. But you're talking about cannons. I was talking about howitzers and mortars which are completely different than cannons.
howitzers such as the 3 pounder were far to light to be used in siege battles and napoleon used the model 1805 howitzer excluisvely in field combat. the 1841 mountain howitzer used by union soldiers in the civil war was a very close copy. i will give you credit however that there were very large howitzers used specifically for siege combat. but you cant say that thats all that howitzers were used for.![]()
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