The "marraige role" of Princesses

Paybob · Apr 21, 2010

So i was wondering if some kind soul could clarify the "marriage role" of princesses. I could be totally wrong about this given i am a noob, but if you marry a princess to another factions heir he then becomes part of your faction (but their future children will belong to the dudes former faction). And i am guessing this makes alliances much stronger. Can you marry princesses to random people in your family or is this not allowed because of obvious reasons.

Paybob · Apr 21, 2010

Oh yes i almost forgot! When there is a suitable husband to marry your princess in the beginning of your turn, is this a random person or another factions heir. If it is another factions heir why would it not tell you from which faction he is from.

Romanichine · Apr 21, 2010

Paybob said:
So i was wondering if some kind soul could clarify the "marriage role" of princesses. I could be totally wrong about this given i am a noob, but if you marry a princess to another factions heir he then becomes part of your faction (but their future children will belong to the dudes former faction). And i am guessing this makes alliances much stronger.

When you marry a princess to another faction heir, he does not become part of your nation. You might see him in your family tree, but he's still member of his faction. And yes, he does keep the kids - the male always keep the kids.

Marrying to the prince of another faction always seals an alliance and boosts relations with that faction.

Paybob said:
Can you marry princesses to random people in your family or is this not allowed because of obvious reasons.

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You can't.

Edit: To clarify - You can't marry within your family, but you can marry one of your princess to one of your general who is not in your family tree.[/DEL]

Edit: Scratch that, gdo0d6 is right, you can marry within the family as long as it's not the princess' brother.

Paybob said:
Oh yes i almost forgot! When there is a suitable husband to marry your princess in the beginning of your turn, is this a random person or another factions heir. If it is another factions heir why would it not tell you from which faction he is from.

When you receive a marriage offer for your princess at the beginning of your turn, it's always a candidate of your nationality. It can't be another heir, those have to be sealed through diplomacy.

Paybob · Apr 21, 2010

Thank you Thank you! I appreciate the clarification.

gdo0d6 · Apr 21, 2010

romanichine said:
Originally Posted by Paybob
Can you marry princesses to random people in your family or is this not allowed because of obvious reasons.
You can't.

You can't.

If the OP is talking about a princess marrying another general in the faction's family, she can unless the general is her brother. Any other family member in your tree can marry your princess as long as the person isn't married. In fact, sometimes the council of nobles even asks you to marry one of your princesses to her cousin to improve his loyalty.

Romanichine · Apr 21, 2010

Er... You're right, you can marry within the family as long as it's not her brother. I didn't think you could.

It's hard to find a reason why you would marry within the family though.

thursgun · Apr 21, 2010

romanichine said:
Er... You're right, you can marry within the family as long as it's not her brother. I didn't think you could.

It's hard to find a reason why you would marry within the family though.

I do it to marry my princesses and keep the family last name at the same time :tongue:

So basically is role play.

John Doe · Apr 22, 2010

Ther are 2 ways of marrying a princess. One is to "steal" another faction's unmarried general, he then belong to your family but you are not ally to the faction. The other by using the diplomacy screen, then you loose the princess and become ally with the faction. Sometime you will not get the option of alliance in the diplomacy screen (the faction you are talking to is at war with one of your ally, or you are at war with one of theirs), but you may be able to force the alliance through if you can marry a princess. Then peace treaty are forced upon the factions at war.

SonOfThunder · Apr 22, 2010

romanichine said:
Er... You're right, you can marry within the family as long as it's not her brother. I didn't think you could.

It's hard to find a reason why you would marry within the family though.

I do this if I have a really high-charm princess - gives my family member great traits(I've gotten three or four "Wife is...admirable, etc" traits on one family member by doing this). Much better than just some random girl.

Romanichine · Apr 22, 2010

SonOfThunder said:
I do this if I have a really high-charm princess - gives my family member great traits(I've gotten three or four "Wife is...admirable, etc" traits on one family member by doing this). Much better than just some random girl.

Agreed. But your princess will give good traits to anyone she marries. Why not wait for a good random candidate instead? That way you get one more family member.

SonOfThunder · Apr 22, 2010

romanichine said:
Agreed. But your princess will give good traits to anyone she marries. Why not wait for a good random candidate instead? That way you get one more family member.

Yeah technically that's better...but I'm a big roleplayer and thus I never adopt or marry my princesses off to random guys...all stays in the male blood line.

It limits my family members but it's more fun for me.

Jazx · Apr 22, 2010

I was playing as Russia and after I defeat Poland few countries like Denmark,Byzantine offered me alliance.After few turns later One hungarian princess came and wanted marry with my faction heir. I accepted their offer. Like 20 turns later Mongol Empire invade Ryazid(My eastern castle) with like 10,000 men. Unbelieveble they can destroy me easly :s
While I was thinking what to do Hungary betrayed me. And too bad I can still see Hungarian princess on my family tree

I will probly lose this game

Marto · Apr 23, 2010

romanichine said:
Agreed. But your princess will give good traits to anyone she marries. Why not wait for a good random candidate instead? That way you get one more family member.

Not so. I've been marrying my princesses across my family tree for 50 turns now and I've had traits given to my Generals / Governors of 'wife is a wretch', 'wife is plain' and 'laughing stock' etc because the lass is such a munter, or she picks up an admirer.

Romanichine · Apr 23, 2010

Marto said:
Not so. I've been marrying my princesses across my family tree for 50 turns now and I've had traits given to my Generals / Governors of 'wife is a wretch', 'wife is plain' and 'laughing stock' etc because the lass is such a munter, or she picks up an admirer.

Yeah, it's was more or less implied in the conversation that the princess had high charm.

Princesses with Charm 5+ give good traits to their husband, while those with charm 2- give bad traits, so a good strategy is to not have them marry until they get at least charm 3.

Unless you offer them to another faction's heir :tongue:

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