Al-Sadr: Attack U.S. Troops In Iraq

bigfootedfred · Jan 9, 2009

(AP) Anti-U.S. cleric Muqtada al-Sadr on Wednesday urged reprisals against American forces in Iraq to protest Israel's Gaza offensive, as Arab anger grows over civilian deaths in the Palestinian territory.

The strongly worded statement signaled a threat by al-Sadr's militia fighters to renew violence against American troops after months of relative calm.

Iraqis have expressed outrage over the Israeli offensive and what is perceived as U.S. inaction, holding protests to show solidarity with the Palestinians. The issue has again put the spotlight on Iraq's relations with Israel as the two countries remain technically at war.

Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki expressed "great pain and sorrow" over the Israeli offensive and accused the international community of ignoring the plight of the Palestinians.

"It is regrettable that this brutal crime continues with the silence of the international community," he told reporters Tuesday.

He called on other Arab and Muslim nations to "abolish diplomatic relations" with Israel and to "stop all public and clandestine contacts with this murderous regime." Only two Arab countries, Egypt and Jordan, have peace treaties with Israel.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/01/08/world/main4706491.shtml

Arab world pissedoffometer (scale 1-100) About 90

Gaidin · Jan 9, 2009

Now they know how Africa feels?

Lawrence of Arabia · Jan 9, 2009

al-Sadr does this every few months until his ass gets kicked.

Treize · Jan 9, 2009

The Isreali´s should not be in Gaza, and the Americans shouldn´t be in Iraq......
So simple...

Gaidin · Jan 9, 2009

too simple to be right.

MathiasOfAthens · Jan 9, 2009

Lawrence of Arabia said:
al-Sadr does this every few months until his ass gets kicked.

LOL.

stupid al-sadr isnt he on his last straw by now.
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Viking Prince · Jan 9, 2009

So the formula is to hide in Iran, call followers to go out and get blown away, and claim religious piety. Truly a religous leader for people to follow if seeking to lead a holy life.

Mangalore · Jan 9, 2009

MathiasOfAthens said:
stupid al-sadr isnt he on his last straw by now.

1) He is not. His party is still a large faction in parliament and I believe his militia mainly stopped fighting to not get under the bus against the Badr corps so while mauled is still pretty big.

2) If he is, Badr, Sciri and D'awa(sp) will unify the Shia cause. All three being pro-Iranian organization with closest ties with the Mullah's so it is not quite clear how this would be helpful...

Gaidin · Jan 9, 2009

Viking Prince said:
So the formula is to hide in Iran, call followers to go out and get blown away, and claim religious piety. Truly a religous leader for people to follow if seeking to lead a holy life.

Worked during the crusades...why not now.

Holger Danske · Jan 9, 2009

Lawrence of Arabia said:
al-Sadr does this every few months until his ass gets kicked.

Speaking of which, when will the US be able to JDAM his arse?

Farnan · Jan 9, 2009

Mangalore said:
1) He is not. His party is still a large faction in parliament and I believe his militia mainly stopped fighting to not get under the bus against the Badr corps so while mauled is still pretty big.

Actually his party has disbanded, however his supporters are fairly significant, though minor faction. So minor that the rest of the parties felt comfortable in passing a good amount of bills without him.

2) If he is, Badr, Sciri and D'awa(sp) will unify the Shia cause. All three being pro-Iranian organization with closest ties with the Mullah's so it is not quite clear how this would be helpful...

This would be interesting if it wasn't wrong...

Badr and Dawa are enemies. Iraqis are disillusioned with religious parties, viewing them as incompetent, and even Dawa is trying to throw away its religious, pro-Iran mantle for a nationalist one.

Mangalore · Jan 9, 2009

Farnan said:
Actually his party has disbanded, however his supporters are fairly significant, though minor faction. So minor that the rest of the parties felt comfortable in passing a good amount of bills without him.

That's news to. His militia got plastered by others pretty hard and they went dormant or broke away but that his faction in the parliament dissolved I did not read anywhere.

This would be interesting if it wasn't wrong...

Badr and Dawa are enemies. Iraqis are disillusioned with religious parties, viewing them as incompetent, and even Dawa is trying to throw away its religious, pro-Iran mantle for a nationalist one.

Yeah, I put it wrongly. Both parties are heavily intertwined with Iran on all levels and on a personal level. Doesn't matter what politics they make, they are and want Iraq to be good buddies with Iran.

Farnan · Jan 9, 2009

Mangalore said:
That's news to. His militia got plastered by others pretty hard and they went dormant or broke away but that his faction in the parliament dissolved I did not read anywhere.

See the law passed I think last year that no party with a militia may have seats in Parliament. It was aimed at Al-Sadr, and at that time Sadr declared he wasn't going to run a party, but rather support individual candidates.

Yeah, I put it wrongly. Both parties are heavily intertwined with Iran on all levels and on a personal level. Doesn't matter what politics they make, they are and want Iraq to be good buddies with Iran.

Dawa is making a break with Iran, especially with the signing of the security agreement. They are going for a nationalist push with an Iraq controlled by Iraqis. Whether their attempt to repaint themselves or now will work is yet to be seen. From what I've read, Iraqis are no fans of foreign meddling, US or Iranian.

Now that is not to say they don't want good relations with Iran, as would anyone with their neighbors, but the idea of being an Iranian puppet is unlikely.

bigfootedfred · Jan 9, 2009

what i thought was more damaging for the US
is Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki comments. Namely,
calling on "other Arab and Muslim nations to "abolish diplomatic relations" with Israel and to "stop all public and clandestine contacts with this murderous regime."

Farnan · Jan 9, 2009

Bigfootedfred said:
what i thought was more damaging for the US
is Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki comments. Namely,
calling on "other Arab and Muslim nations to "abolish diplomatic relations" with Israel and to "stop all public and clandestine contacts with this murderous regime."

This was definitely damaging for Israel, effect on the US isn't easily apparent, what I think is important is how President Obama acts as Arabs have high hopes for him.

I'm glad Iraq said this, though I think all sides need to get together for peace, if Iraq took a pro-Israel or neutral stance it won't be able to function as an Arab nation.

Hesus de bodemloze · Jan 9, 2009

He is just doing this to gain support with his own people and the rest of the muslim world. The next thing thy will do is burn a flag or two.

bigfootedfred · Jan 9, 2009

Farnan said:
This was definitely damaging for Israel, effect on the US isn't easily apparent, what I think is important is how President Obama acts as Arabs have high hopes for him.

The US, israels biggest ally in the known world (unless you know, theres some weird alien clan of jews helping them, or God is personally stepping in)

Obama wont make any difference, this is paraphrasing as i cannot find the exact quote, but "israel must remain the undisputed capital of irasel and it must remain undivided"? His staunch support flanked by that of joe biden who "no one is better freind of israel"?
Obama wont be any different.
If this highly destructuve self defeating strategy contiues. the middle east will be reduced to glass, israel has nukes. Why is this such a minor issue for some. Israel has 400 nukes, and i think that estimation is in fact round the 1990's.

I'm glad Iraq said this, though I think all sides need to get together for peace, if Iraq took a pro-Israel or neutral stance it won't be able to function as an Arab nation.

thats the point. he had too.
Im sure i dont need to point out to you
just how pissed the Arab world is right now.

saglam2000 · Jan 9, 2009

urgh come on....everything was settling down in Iraq too

patrick1191 · Jan 9, 2009

YEA LETS ATTACK OUR OWN COUNTRY TO PROTEST ISRAEL :doh:

Heinz Guderian · Jan 9, 2009

patrick1191 said:
YEA LETS ATTACK OUR OWN COUNTRY TO PROTEST ISRAEL

american forces are not the country of Iraq. he meant attacking the occupying american forces.

Its actually written in english in the first line of the OP.

I can quote the relevant part for you if you like?

patrick1191 · Jan 9, 2009

american forces are not the country of Iraq. he meant attacking the occupying american forces.

Its actually written in english in the first line of the OP.

I can quote the relevant part for you if you like?

What do you think happens when a war escalates, the fight would be in Iraq and only Iraq will be damaged.

Hesus de bodemloze · Jan 9, 2009

patrick1191 said:
What do you think happens when a war escalates, the fight would be in Iraq and only Iraq will be damaged.

Correct me if i am wrong but the fight already is in Iraq, this means Iraq is already damaged. And it will stay that way becous thy are fighting amongst there selfs too.

Heinz Guderian · Jan 9, 2009

patrick1191 said:
What do you think happens when a war escalates, the fight would be in Iraq and only Iraq will be damaged.

(AP) Anti-U.S. cleric Muqtada al-Sadr on Wednesday urged reprisals against American forces in Iraq to protest Israel's Gaza offensive, as Arab anger grows over civilian deaths in the Palestinian territory.

The strongly worded statement signaled a threat by al-Sadr's militia fighters to renew violence against American troops after months of relative calm.

you said

YEA LETS ATTACK OUR OWN COUNTRY TO PROTEST ISRAEL

American forces are not the country of Iraq. I want you to apologise.

bigfootedfred · Jan 9, 2009

patrick1191 · Jan 9, 2009

American forces are not the country of Iraq. I want you to apologize.

By attacking U.S forces they are damaging there country. That is what I meant.

Correct me if i am wrong but the fight already is in Iraq, this means Iraq is already damaged. And it will stay that way becous thy are fighting amongst there selfs too.

But it will get worse if they renew fighting.

Admiral Piett · Jan 9, 2009

*sigh* And the crap just piles on. They do know that the longer they keep attacking us the longer we are going to be there?

The King Of Peasants · Jan 10, 2009

We should have killed him 4 years ago when we had the chance or send in some CIA assassins though another leader will pop up. I doubt Iraqis will stand for them attacking Americans again so this might be a blessing in disguise to alienate his militia from the Shiite populous and the Iraqi government.

Admiral Piett · Jan 10, 2009

The King Of Peasants said:
We should have killed him 4 years ago when we had the chance or send in some CIA assassins though another leader will pop up. I doubt Iraqis will stand for them attacking Americans again so this might be a blessing in disguise to alienate his militia from the Shiite populous and the Iraqi government.

At the expense of the lives of our soldiers and Iraqi citizens.

Nikos · Jan 10, 2009

Here we go again. It amazes me why Iraqis support thugs like Al-Sadr. Don't they realize that the United States would have left all ready had it not been for these militias. Although, Al-Sadr does look like a Jedi. I guess that's a plus.

Valiant Champion · Jan 10, 2009

Viking Prince said:
So the formula is to hide in Iran, call followers to go out and get blown away, and claim religious piety. Truly a religous leader for people to follow if seeking to lead a holy life.

I agree why wont these brave and fearless Islamic hero kings set an example and strap on a vest and blow themselves up?

Why do they always send others to do what they wont do?

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