AP weapons and shields

MagicCuboid · Feb 23, 2012

Hey, I did a quick forum search but didn't turn up any definitive answer. Do AP weapons cut shield effectiveness in half, or just armor? Would make a huge difference for some units!

Point Blank · Feb 23, 2012

Just armor. Firearms ignore shields.

ksenagos · Feb 23, 2012

MagicCuboid said:
Hey, I did a quick forum search but didn't turn up any definitive answer. Do AP weapons cut shield effectiveness in half, or just armor? Would make a huge difference for some units!

Only armor.
Bonus:stats is not everything...AP weapons have usually slower attack speed

Point Blank · Feb 23, 2012

ksenagos said:
Only armor.
Bonus:stats is not everything...AP weapons have usually slower attack speed

Yep. The crossover point where AP weapons begin to pay off is where the opponent is wearing something like heavy mail or better.

Mega Tortas de Bodemloze · Feb 23, 2012

Mercenary macemen provide good thug muscle, for many early era campaigns. Keeping one or two with your main stacks really shores up the begining spear militia parade...

ksenagos · Feb 23, 2012

Mega Tortas de Bodemloze said:
Mercenary macemen provide good thug muscle, for many early era campaigns. Keeping one or two with your main stacks really shores up the begining spear militia parade...

Off topic.Swabian swordmen for me aaaaaaaall the way.They are devastating against militia and not only

Mega Tortas de Bodemloze · Feb 23, 2012

*Looks up*

Ja ja... :yes:

Now staying with the AP theme...The Breton Mercenary Cav are great pick ups if your a javilin starved faction. As general killers or even as decoys, they earn their keep.

Ichon · Feb 23, 2012

Mega Tortas de Bodemloze said:
*Looks up*

Ja ja... Now staying with the AP theme...The Breton Mercenary Cav are great pick ups if your a javilin starved faction. As general killers or even as decoys, they earn their keep.

They are also very effective on charge in early eras, as good as knights at a lower cost. Really they only lack when getting stuck in melee or vs lots of archers but knights shouldn't be getting stuck in melee anyway so really only mass archers are their handicap. Their ability to take out generals and flank, then charge at a lower cost and easier replacement than knights more than makes up for that single deficiency anyway, just use your BG on the archers and the Bretons on everything else.

MagicCuboid · Feb 23, 2012

I love Bretons, they make taking those general and feudal knight defended settlements much easier to take early on. Bretons and Longbowmen also go a long way in rounding out Scandinavian armies when facing France or HRE.

ksenagos · Feb 23, 2012

Mega Tortas de Bodemloze said:
*Looks up*

Ja ja... Now staying with the AP theme...The Breton Mercenary Cav are great pick ups if your a javilin starved faction. As general killers or even as decoys, they earn their keep.

Lol...i wanted to say that what I said was off topic...I would never accuse someone of being off topic...There it goes again once more i am IRRELEVANT :doh:

.btw i never tried breton...I love javelins by the way excellent heavy cavalry killers

Mega Tortas de Bodemloze · Feb 24, 2012

ksenagos said:
Lol...i wanted to say that what I said was off topic...I would never accuse someone of being off topic...There it goes again once more i am IRRELEVANT.btw i never tried breton...I love javelins by the way excellent heavy cavalry killers

See there...you were relevent even though you were imurssed in your own in your irrelevancy... :tongue:

OT: Kay digging to the bottom of the mercenary AP rooster, don't forget the often ignored crossbowmen. No not exactly $cheap$ but in the early going of early era campaigns, they can provide surprizing muscle if utilizied correctly.

Ferdiad · Feb 24, 2012

Crossbow Mercs are far superior to the trash you get at the start of your campaign, they are one of the few units that can take down BGs early on.

AP weapons and shields

AP weapons and shields

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