Dragon Age

[Kamos]

I loved the depth of the dungeons myself, I only wish it were easier to backtrack and dump off my loot.

 

[Shabby_Ronin]

That's what i mean, it's like a train...once you get on you can't get off till you arrive at the end.

 

[hellheaven1987]

That's what i mean, it's like a train...once you get on you can't get off till you arrive at the end.

Well, you can always jump off the train, walk back to station and wait for next train.

 

[Pnutmaster]

Call me demented, but I liked the Fade. Granted, scouring around as a rat got old, but once I acquired the Arcane Horror form? Crushing Prison

In fact, I wish you could have entered the Fade at will, ala the Shadow Realm of NWN2. Perhaps it'll see more screen time in DA2. Black City, eh?

 

[Sidmen]

You mean the city that took tens of thousands of blood-sacrifices and half the Lyrium in a continent-spanning empire to break into the first time?

 

[Darth Ravenous]

Yeah that's the one. Maybe we could choose to be evil and rule the enternal black city...

 

[Augustus Lucifer]

You mean the city that took tens of thousands of blood-sacrifices and half the Lyrium in a continent-spanning empire to break into the first time?

I suppose that all assumes that the myths about the Tevinter Imperium corrupting the Golden City are true. If you think about it, the Tevinters were a fairly tyrannical regime, oppressive and interested in taboo arts. It would have been easy for Andraste or someone else in the 'maker hugging' crowd to slander them and blame them as the embodiment of mankind's foolish pride. There's at least one book or dialogue line that alludes to the black city always having been black. Certainly possible at any rate.

 

[Sidmen]

IIRC, The Tevinter did bust into the Golden City by their own admission.

Everything that followed is whats in question. I remember a line saying that the City had always been black, and that the Tevinter Mages just let the darkspawn out.

 

[Augustus Lucifer]

I guess we'll know for sure with the inevitable game supplementing novels. Aren't there already two of them? Wonder if they cover anything substantial.

At any rate I wouldn't rule out anything, all the Codex entries are single-author, some of them arguably biased sources(as much as a pre-defined and non-existent person can be biased, that is). The truth is probably somewhere in the middle, going there to meddle and gain power, crap inadvertently hitting the fan, etc. It'd make more sense if the city was always black though, because Blood Mages seeking knowledge would want to consult demons, not gods.

 

[Sidmen]

The Tevinter were worshipers of the Old Dragon-Gods to get their Magics.

 

[Augustus Lucifer]

Is it just me or are we having a theoretical discussion about the history of a game universe? Damn. I'm gonna have to go do something really manly now to make up for this. Like eat wood chips.

 

[Sidmen]

Its not the worst thing we've done.

Remember that time when we went on a D20 tangent in the Q&S?

On the other hand, I just spent every waking hour over the last 3 days Cutting and pasting stuff onto Yu-Gi-OH cards for a roleplaying game. So I KNOW that theoretical discussion about Dragon Age isn't anywhere near the least manly thing I've done.

 

[ssmarine]

Overall i must say i enjoyed the Witcher more... and i'm not much of an RPG player. I usually go through it once to see the story and thats it.

The Witcher? Seriously? Your entitled to any opinion you want, but man, I thought DA destroys The Witcher. I love RPGs and DA ranks up there with the 1st KOTOR and Oblivion with me.

 

[Kinjo]

Just beat the game today, this has to be my favorite RPG to date and look forward to DA2. Now its time to play though as an evil blood mage!

 

[Cyrus the Virus]

The Witcher? Seriously? Your entitled to any opinion you want, but man, I thought DA destroys The Witcher. I love RPGs and DA ranks up there with the 1st KOTOR and Oblivion with me.

Pretty much equals to me, or close to, however DA has much more playtime and re-playability.

Oblivion fades in the competition, completely.

 

[hellheaven1987]

Well, the only thing Witcher beat DA is combat system, which Witch wins in a marginal distance. Other than that, nothing is better than DA.

 

[iudas]

Well, the only thing Witcher beat DA is combat system, which Witch wins in a marginal distance. Other than that, nothing is better than DA.

You have to be joking. Clicking on the enemy until they die is good?

 

[hellheaven1987]

You have to be joking. Clicking on the enemy until they die is good?

Are you serious??

 

[God-Emperor of Mankind]

Witcher's combat was horrible.
Click once and when the icon changes click again.
It was simple true enough but it wasn't better then DA.

 

[Habelo]

Pretty much equals to me, or close to, however DA has much more playtime and re-playability.

Oblivion fades in the competition, completely.

Oblivion was way to much exploration. My price goes to mass effect. And neverwinter nights in second.

 

[Habelo]

Witcher's combat was horrible.
Click once and when the icon changes click again.
It was simple true enough but it wasn't better then DA.

I agree.

 

[Cyrus the Virus]

Well, the only thing Witcher beat DA is combat system, which Witch wins in a marginal distance. Other than that, nothing is better than DA.

Better atmosphere, better visual design, but hey, DA is better anyway I admit.

Oblivion was way to much exploration. My price goes to mass effect. And neverwinter nights in second.

There were not much besides exploration, so much time is spent that way.

 

[hellheaven1987]

Witcher's combat was horrible.
Click once and when the icon changes click again.
It was simple true enough but it wasn't better then DA.

Ya right, click on enemy, and then see your character cut your enemy for 3 damage, then your enemy cut back with 2 damage.

Such a nice combat system.

 

[Pnutmaster]

Oblivion fades in the competition, completely.

When reexamined, Oblivion fades in comparison to any well-made game. Why? Because everything post-Morrowind's been shallow shite from Bethesda

Oblivion's only redemption was its Assassin quest line. DA lacked a compelling set of assassination quests (they were there, but they were certainly not on the same level as the Dark Brotherhood).

 

[Augustus Lucifer]

The Witcher? Seriously? Your entitled to any opinion you want, but man, I thought DA destroys The Witcher. I love RPGs and DA ranks up there with the 1st KOTOR and Oblivion with me.

Give The Witcher some credit, it wasn't made by a big name company like BioWare in partnership with an enormous publishing company like EA. And yet it still did outstandingly well in terms of reception. The story is good, some of the ancillary systems were good, the character design was flawless, so on and so forth. Dragon Age wins out in depth of 'universe', a better tactical system, and better moddability, but The Witcher is neck and neck in every other category.

Well, the only thing Witcher beat DA is combat system, which Witch wins in a marginal distance. Other than that, nothing is better than DA.

Neither is better, they're just different. Would be like comparing the combat systems to Final Fantasy or God of War. The Witcher takes a different approach than DA, which is better than DA if you're playing it like an Action RPG, but isn't better if you're micromanaging it top-down tactically. There's also the fact you don't have a 'party', so the combat system was built on entirely different foundations.

When reexamined, Oblivion fades in comparison to any well-made game. Why? Because everything post-Morrowind's been shallow shite from Bethesda

Oblivion's only redemption was its Assassin quest line. DA lacked a compelling set of assassination quests (they were there, but they were certainly not on the same level as the Dark Brotherhood).

To be honest, with Oblivion the storyline isn't all that important simply because it's a ridiculously good sandbox. I've played it and just gone around stealing things and using jump spells to hop around the world at 1,000 feet. Dragon Age in this respect is hindered by the fact that it's extremely linear and also doesn't have things like 'jump'.

 

[iudas]

Actually Dragon Age gave me the biggest sense of freedom I've ever had with an RPG, though it was just an illusion. I felt like I could do whatever I wanted to stop the blight, that my choices were endless. The exposition was just perfectly done because it gave you enough information to get you hooked and let you know what needs to be done but you didn't feel like you were guided.

 

[hellheaven1987]

Actually Dragon Age gave me the biggest sense of freedom I've ever had with an RPG, though it was just an illusion. I felt like I could do whatever I wanted to stop the blight, that my choices were endless. The exposition was just perfectly done because it gave you enough information to get you hooked and let you know what needs to be done but you didn't feel like you were guided.

You only have one choice - get everyone's ass and stop the Bilight, no other choices.

 

[Shabby_Ronin]

Whatever, I think Oblivion is a fantastic game.

 

[blank]

You only have one choice - get everyone's ass

Nah you can't get everyone's ass. Some people are way too frigid.

 

[xxax]

The Witcher? Seriously? Your entitled to any opinion you want, but man, I thought DA destroys The Witcher. I love RPGs and DA ranks up there with the 1st KOTOR and Oblivion with me.

Yeah.... The combat was worse but the story was better (at least for me). Your choices made an impact on the late game and it was morally more complex (not the usual good/bad/neutral thing). I'm not saying DA is bad, but i was bored a couple of times...