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    Faction Preview: The Getae





    Units
    This faction overhaul is a complete revamp and changes the appearance of all Dacian units, and adds 16 new units to the Dacian tribes. Here are some pictures of the new and remade units:

    Melee Infantry

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    The Druhtiz Bastarnisku ("Bastarnae Warband") is a druhtiz (warband) comprised of fierce and resolute warriors, well aware of their role on the battlefield as shock troops. The falx is an intimidating weapon, especially in the hands of these experienced warriors. These men can hack a hole in almost any enemy battle line. They are the essential shock troops of any Dacian army.


    The battle-line warriors of the Karp and Kostobok tribes, aside from their large contingents of Drapanai, are the Pelekuphoroi, wielders of bronze axes and sturdy round shields. Their scale leather is meant at least as much to protect against Skythian arrows as against Bastarnai spears, and will do little to stop a heavy, curved falx blade. These fast, hardy troops are best used in ambushes, hit-and-run attacks, or flanking maneuvers against heavier warriors, but are fierce enough to stand in the battle line if the situation demands it.


    The Drapanai contingents are made up of resolute warriors, well aware of their role on the battlefield as shock troops. While the average Getic soldier tells himself he is immortal, the Drapanai, more than any others, join battle without fear of death. They fight bare-chested and with only trousers. Their trademark though is the falx, a vicious blade capable of severing limbs and causing horrible wounds with a single, crushing blow. Their lack of armor might be a drawback against concentrated enemy missile fire and they should thus not be exposed to enemy ranged infantry needlessly.

    The Ischyroi Orditon, or "Mighty men of the Ordes," are the elite guard among the Getai. They trace their lineage back to the old capital at Helis, are the pinnacle of the Getic noble infantry. Armed with a long thrusting spear and either a sica or celtic sword, they can be very effective in close combat with infantry. Protected by an Thraikian helm with a large crest, imported from Hellas, a large oval shield, a coat of mail, they are one of the most heavily armored units in any Getic army.


    Spear Infantry

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    Pike Infantry

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    The tribes that came into contact with the Hellenic poleis founded on the western shores of the Pontos Euxine formed a distinct breed of warriors. These men were renowned for their fierceness, and all Makedonian expeditions sent against them effectively disappeared in the "Getic wasteland", while Makedonian kings like Lysimakos knew Getic captivity. Their contact with the Hellenic poleis made them well familiarized with the phalanx formation. These men are equipped with Phrygian helmets, padded leather armor and large oval shields. For weapons, they carry a spear and a sica into battle, similar to most Hellenic phalanx soldiers.


    These troops were raised once the Getic state reached a strong level of organization. The rank and file of the Getic professional troops, these men are well adapted to dense forested areas, thus their cohesion does not suffer from fighting in rough terrain when in close formation. These warriors wear mail shirts, and Phrygian helmets over their traditional wool shirts and trousers, befitting their status as professionals.


    Missile Infantry

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    In times of war, hunters and skilled archers thus formed into war bands. Apart from the bow they only have a short spear and wear leather armor
    and trousers for protection.


    These men are wealthy komatai drawn from the Getic tribes dwelling along the Karpathes. They are armored with studded leather armor, trousers and armed with the bow. Their incessant fighting in more recent years against migrating Celtic tribes led many of them to adopt the Celtic-style longsword, which made them deadly when closing in for the kill. Unlike most other archers though, these men can perform well in close combat, although they are most effective against weakened, exposed, or tired foes.


    These skirmishers are a valuable addition to any dacian army and can perform superbly in rough terrain. They carry no armor to speak of, except small round shields, and are armed with slings and a dagger. They are usually very young men and their role is merely to try and force the enemy into acting rashly, even though unarmored troops could pay much more dearly if facing them.




    The Komatai, also called 'daoi' or 'wolves,' make up the bulk of the tribal forces of the Getai. They fight bare-headed to assure the gods of their fervor and willingness to arrive at their side. The Komatai go to battle wearing studded leather armor, trousers and a large oval shield. They also carry with them javelins and a sica. If forced into melee they can hold their own against other light and even some medium infantry.


    The Komatai Epilektoi are a unit of soldiers selected from among the Komatai. Selected for their better equipment and superior physical abilities, the Komatai Epilektoi are a step beyond the standard Komatai. Equipped with the same studded leather armor worn over trousers and woolen shirts, most of these men also wear a simple iron helmet. They also can afford higher quality shields and better weapons: two heavier, well-made iron throwing spears and a Celtic long-sword are fairly standard. With their better equipment, they can stand in the battle line.


    Cavalry

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    The Getai horse archers have a long and proud tradition, having developed superb skills in confrontations with the Skythai and Sauromatai. These Getai warriors are not drawn from every Getic tribe, but from the tribes living in the Danube-delta area or from the Agathyrsoi living inside the arch of the Karpathes. The Hellenes called all men living in modern-day Romania & northern Bulgaria for Getai after this tribe, while the Romans called them Dacians, which is the norm today.


    These horsemen form the mounted counterparts of the Komatai war bands. They ride into battle armored with studded leather armor and trousers, while carrying javelins and short swords. Their nimble horses allow for very good performance in any type of terrain, being often used to screen flanks, charge home and for pursuit once an enemy is broken.


    These men, the Ktistai, or "the ones set apart" are members of the most prestigious Getic priesthood. Apart from fulfilling many important roles in Getic society, some of the ktistai (all drawn from the tarabostes nobility) also form small cavalry forces of elite warriors. They are elite warriors who know how to use the bow and the falx, the two most important weapons in Getic society. Their armor is also of high quality: the Ktistai ride to battle armored with mail shirts and animal fur worn on the back. The Ktistai will never break, disobey or act without orders, and more than other warriors, truly believe their souls immortal. They can only be recruited in places with a highly developed religious infrastructure.


    The Tarabostes are mounted war bands comprising warriors, usually veterans, attached to a war chief. They often form the main volunteer force for pillage raids. Being attached to the Getic nobility these warriors often have better equipment than their fellow Getic warriors. They are armored with chain-mail and large oval shields. They carry a spear and the sica blade. They are fearsome all-round cavalry, well armored and looking upon war as a class-affair.






    The strong ties developed between royalty and the ktistai priesthood made these zealots the perfect recruitement basin for the king's guards. The beltistai's loyalty is unquestionable and their ferocity unmatched. The ktistai were so close to the king, that the succesor would either be chosen from their ranks, or become pontifex maximus of the priesthood. The ones recruited for the beltistai korps must have been trained from infancy, while the secretive nature of their order must have been ideal for the purposes of any strong ruler.

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    Great job as always !

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    Yeah great job. Only reason r2 is still installed is because of you guys. Keep up the good work

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    Can't disagree with previous posters, great job.

    However, looking at this preview made some questions appear in my head. I hope it wouldn't be too much of a bother to answer them.

    - Will Getae have their own reforms or will they piggy-back on some other culture, like Armenia currently does?
    - Do you have plans to implement separate Daco-Thracian culture? (As far as I am aware it is possible to mod this, at least this guy http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfile.../?id=234656301 did it)
    - Do screens of Ksistai, Tarabostes and Phylakes Daoi on foot and not on their horses mean that they will be actually useful in dragoon-like tactics or were those screens made like that just for fun?

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    Quote Originally Posted by eNVee View Post
    Can't disagree with previous posters, great job.

    However, looking at this preview made some questions appear in my head. I hope it wouldn't be too much of a bother to answer them.

    - Will Getae have their own reforms or will they piggy-back on some other culture, like Armenia currently does?
    - Do you have plans to implement separate Daco-Thracian culture? (As far as I am aware it is possible to mod this, at least this guy http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfile.../?id=234656301 did it)
    - Do screens of Ksistai, Tarabostes and Phylakes Daoi on foot and not on their horses mean that they will be actually useful in dragoon-like tactics or were those screens made like that just for fun?
    -Own Culture for Daco-Thracian is planned
    -Reform makes sense - specially for the pike units
    -Some of the Horse Archers have enough expirience and armour to stand in the line too. For expample: the Ktistai are noblemen. The other reason for unmounted units is - you can see the shields better

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    Nice work.

    I have one minor constructive criticism regarding your metal textures (particularly the mail) which I know would be easy to fix if you don't mind unsolicited advice. They look good, but they look like modern "reproductions" that are shiny new and made with modern metallurgical techniques. Google image "hand forged iron" and you can see the colors are much darker and less consistent:

    https://www.google.co.il/search?q=%2...h=1013&dpr=0.9

    The way to create that effect is to do an overlay with a brush that has some randomness and jitter to it using colors taken from real images of hand forged iron. Double the overlay, set the first to "color" with the opacity at 50% or less and the second copy of the layer to "multiply" at about 10% opacity.

    This is the result at high resolution, the left side is using slightly more corroded colors:
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    In the game it will be more like this size, which looks really nice once you get the specular and normal map on it:



    For the left side, I actually picked two colors from this image of Roman mail and had the brush jitter 50% between the two:
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    You don't seem to be familiar with how the burden of proof works in when discussing social justice. It's not like science where it lies on the one making the claim. If someone claims to be oppressed, they don't have to prove it.


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    Awesome as always, can't wait for .9!

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    Great preview! Thanks!

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    Loving it

    So how long till the 0.9 update? (More or less of course, weeks or months?)

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    great work! +rep

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    Lovely looking units as always. Cant wait to start a campaign as the Getae. Thanks for the hard work

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    Very nice preview, thanks for the efforts put in it!
    Can you give more info on how you came up with the unit names? I see some Germanic words, many Greek, etc..

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    Looking great, nice job Ritter!

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    I found the previcious preview more accurate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scythion View Post
    I found the previcious preview more accurate.
    yeah, we all miss the Dacian Sea Horses - should be a bodyguard unit.....

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    Great Work. But Where are The Lion Heads

    No seriously, i have one critique: Could you add less filters to the previews, or is the faction planned to be so ... "brown-ish" ?

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    Great preview ! :=)

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    pretty good but the one from April 1 was better! ))) Kidding... excellent preview guys!

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    where is the April 1st preview?

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    I am not sure but does that Drapanai guy in the right corner have a broken leg ? looks kinda funny xD

    Also : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Getae#Physical_appearance (Getae should be red /blond haired)

    Question: Did Getae really had a pike phalanx with large oval shilds? i dunno..?
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