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    Default Re: Alternative patch 2020 (READ THE DAMN FAQ PLEASE)

    Anyone else expecienced the supposed bugs that Flo78 reported about the balrog and the trolls?

    Because I double checked it right now and everything seems fine here.

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    Playing sylvans, crash at my first battle, against great spiders.
    I thought they were still here because they would be unbugged...

    As a 'submod' which wants to remove TA bugs, spiders should be removed by AlternativePatch for some strong bandits instead.
    Last edited by Vifarc; April 14, 2020 at 05:31 AM.
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    Default Re: Alternative patch 2020

    Quote Originally Posted by Vifarc View Post
    Playing sylvans, crash at my first battle, against great spiders.
    I thought they were still here because they would be unbugged...

    As a 'submod' which wants to remove TA bugs, spiders should be removed by AlternativePatch for some strong bandits instead.
    OK I just confirmed. Its really crashing.

    I never paid much attention in spiders and my changelogs has no registers of any changes in them.
    So I dont know whats happening.
    I always heard spiders were bugged from 3.2, is that true?

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    Default Re: Alternative patch 2020

    Spiders, with Wolves and Ents are notorious for causing crashes in battle. Everything based on an elephant model can cause crashes. A part of the players never encounter any problem with this while another part always has to deal with it. It's so bad that the DCI:LA team (specifically Withwnar) added an option to remove those units from the game and stop the recruitment while playing and also an option to re-enable the recruitment at will.
    As far as I know nobody has been able to determine why exactly this happens.

    I started a thread about this in 2015 which can be found HERE. If anybody wants to discuss this issue, that thread would be the place to do it.
    Last edited by Veteraan; April 16, 2020 at 04:43 PM.

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    Default Re: Alternative patch 2020

    So simple
    Quote Originally Posted by jurcek1987 View Post
    I corrected the model with Zarathos' Modellers toolbox.
    If anyone gets a spider related ctd, I can upload the modified files.
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    Hello everyone, my first post but I'm reading the forum for many years.

    First of all thank you leo for your awesome work.

    In case of bugs, I had similar like Flo78:
    - invisible Balrog after he sallied out of West Moria
    - undescribed unit for Mordor (trolls)

    Mod is installed on clean TATW 3.2

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    Quote Originally Posted by r8k88 View Post
    - undescribed unit for Mordor (trolls)
    In my submod, Mordor only has 2 units of trolls, Olog-Hai and Mountain Trolls, and both have normal text descriptions.

    I really dont get whats happening.

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    Default Re: Alternative patch 2020 (READ THE DAMN FAQ PLEASE)

    Quote Originally Posted by Flo78 View Post
    Found another minor text bug.
    Some trolls from Mordor have got no name:


    In my submod, this is not a regular unit.
    Those 3d troll models belong to Sauron's bodyguard, not to a recruitable unit.

    Whats the context of this picture? Because it makes no sense for me.

    EDIT: OK, I found it. This picture shows sauron's bodyguards, and now I think sauron himself is not appearing here because he has the same bug of the invisible balrog.

    Anyway the text description was missing, as well as the unit info image. FIXED.
    Last edited by leo.civil.uefs; April 18, 2020 at 11:37 PM.

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    Default Re: Alternative patch 2020 (READ THE DAMN FAQ PLEASE)

    Having a lot of fun with this mod but I encountered an odd bug when fighting in Erebor. One of those pop up rebel armies attacked me but in the battle neither side could cross the bridge leading to the gate. Anyone else experience this?
    Also on an entirely different note I fancied changing the Dwarven bodyguard unit to Iron Guard, this worked perfectly for new generals. However trying to change the starting generals bodyguard units in the strat file results in me getting a "Please select an item from the list" message when trying to start a new campaign. Any advice would be fandabbydozy, thank you very much.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim Layhey View Post
    However trying to change the starting generals bodyguard units in the strat file results in me getting a "Please select an item from the list" message when trying to start a new campaign. Any advice would be fandabbydozy, thank you very much.
    Try to edit the files with Notepad++. I had similar problem when I was making changes with standard Notepad and that was the solution.

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    Default Re: Alternative patch 2020 (READ THE DAMN FAQ PLEASE)

    Quote Originally Posted by Jim Layhey View Post
    Having a lot of fun with this mod but I encountered an odd bug when fighting in Erebor. One of those pop up rebel armies attacked me but in the battle neither side could cross the bridge leading to the gate. Anyone else experience this?
    People reported this before but I never got this problem myself, never managed to replicated it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by r8k88 View Post
    Try to edit the files with Notepad++. I had similar problem when I was making changes with standard Notepad and that was the solution.
    Thanks! That sorted it out.

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    Default Re: Alternative patch 2020 (READ THE DAMN FAQ PLEASE)

    Oh well, guess it's just one of those random bugs which pop up now and then. Its hardly game breaking so i'm not too fussed.

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    Default Re: Alternative patch 2020

    Any of the entusiasts here willing to help?

    I have two problems I tried to fix but didnt manage to.

    - beorn is being called treebeard in tooltip stratmap

    - when a silvan elven captain turns rebel, its 3d model in strat map has bugged textures.

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    There are three entries for Treebeard in the expanded file, but none for Beorn.

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    Is it morally aceptable to implement a custom portrait of myself as a general in the game and give him an ancillary like "he comes from a distant land of palm trees and bright sun in the south..."

    I just want to play myself as a Gondor general...

    Geez... I could even create a custom 3d model of myself for the battlemap.

    You guys better contain me now before I do this... I think I need to retire...
    Last edited by leo.civil.uefs; May 03, 2020 at 10:52 AM.

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    It is perfectly acceptable to make a custom portrait of yourself. "Leo the Mighty". I would recommending finding a chainmail coif, or a medieval looking helmet at a costume shop. I like your ancillary idea too. And why settle for just a custom general for just the battlemap? I think that Leo the Mighty needs his own Gondor strat map model as well. I think Callistonian could actually do both of them for you if you have never done that type of modding before.

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    Quote Originally Posted by leo.civil.uefs View Post
    Is it morally aceptable to implement a custom portrait of myself as a general in the game and give him an ancillary like "he comes from a distant land of palm trees and bright sun in the south..."

    I just want to play myself as a Gondor general...

    Geez... I could even create a custom 3d model of myself for the battlemap.

    You guys better contain me now before I do this... I think I need to retire...
    Please man do it! It would be amazing and you deserve it!! You should have a custom settlement or a fort

    Here he comes, the terror of orcs and the the pride of the dwarves, "Leo the Maker" !!
    Last edited by nadalio; May 03, 2020 at 02:49 PM.

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    Default Re: Alternative patch 2020

    Quote Originally Posted by nadalio View Post
    Please man do it! It would be amazing and you deserve it!! You should have a custom settlement or a fort

    Here he comes, the terror of orcs and the the pride of the dwarves, "Leo the Maker" !!


    A custom settlement named in my honor... with a huge statue of me myself standing in front of the mighty gates... and paintings of me in the walls. The entire Middle eEarth would love and fear me.

    ...

    No... I must follow the wise one's wisdom and resist.



    Its time to go back to modding, fixing bugs and adding lore stuff.



    I'll diminish and go to the west, and remain Leo the modder...

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    Default Re: Alternative patch 2020

    You could also have a name change script to change Minas Tirith to Minas Leo (the Tower of the Lion), after you had successfully restored Gondor's ancient borders.
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