Russia's blow-up weapons

[maerd2003]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-11511886
interesting..

[removeduser_487563287433]

Not political, against the rules to start a thread with just a link or an article, and boring.

[Vizsla]

They copied the idea from the British in the second world war.

[maerd2003]

Not political, against the rules to start a thread with just a link or an article, and boring.

sorry, didnt know..

[hellheaven1987]

Dummy targets had/have been used for a long time... Either way, may be it is a good idea for Taliban to test those strategy for Russian free of price now.

[LaMuerte]

Aren't they completely useless in the age of electronic warfare? As in , AWACS planes detect very well the difference between a real and a blow-up tank , unless the blow-up tank has a radar signature the same as a real tank. Idem dito for blow-up radar stations.

Don't air-to-surface missiles track a radar signature as well , and not a visual picture?


Reminds me a bit of the Iranian flying boats. Impressive if you're a total noob at warfare.

[Azog 150]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Fortitude

The Russian's are 66 years late.

[CarbEast]

Aren't they completely useless in the age of electronic warfare? As in , AWACS planes detect very well the difference between a real and a blow-up tank , unless the blow-up tank has a radar signature the same as a real tank. Idem dito for blow-up radar stations.

AWACS planes recognizing tank radar signature? Sure, though it only works against flying, and, to a certain extent, against jumping tanks.

As for the topic of this thread, there's absolutely nothing new in setting up false targets. It has been around in Russia and everywhere for decades. I guess people at BBC were really bored they decided to do this thing...

[maerd2003]

Aren't they completely useless in the age of electronic warfare? As in , AWACS planes detect very well the difference between a real and a blow-up tank , unless the blow-up tank has a radar signature the same as a real tank. Idem dito for blow-up radar stations.

Don't air-to-surface missiles track a radar signature as well , and not a visual picture?


Reminds me a bit of the Iranian flying boats. Impressive if you're a total noob at warfare.

in the video it says the radars see these things as real.

[Darth Red]

Not all that political and the OP didn't lay out any framework for debate. Moved to the TD.

[LaMuerte]

AWACS planes recognizing tank radar signature? Sure, though it only works against flying, and, to a certain extent, against jumping tanks.

Ok , maybe not AWACS then,my bad. It's JSTARS that recognizes ground targets.

[René Artois]

Not very effective if you've advertised the details of them on national news.

[M D]

Everything has been given rader stuff to reflect what they resemble

[Us Kids Know]

lets just hope for their sakes the taliban dont browse the BBC

[avion365]

this "tool" is for dirt poor nations who can't afford to buy tanks so they but a hundred of these things and say, "we gotz tankz"

[LaMuerte]

I remain highly sceptical , nonetheless. All the decoys need to emit the same level of radiation and heat as 'da real thing' . I didn't see any power source in that duffel bag.

Also : 'They are made of a special material that tricks enemy radar and thermal imaging into thinking they are real weapons.' Wow! Russia invented one hell of a material , one which we don't have in the West , and which is so cheaply manufactured , one can build entire fake armies with it. I guess not...

And what about , for example , acoustic signatures?

Fake!

There's no mystery about it.Russian military just uses them for their own target practice...

edit : Lol , yeah . The presenter told us that one of the greatest things about them is that they are about a 100 times cheaper than the real thing. Not being an expert on current military hardware prices , I still can justly claim that that would be one expensive decoy.

[Babur]

instead of decoys, why not just have the real thing?

[Turtle Hammer]

Russia's new greatest enemy: moderate winds. Surely somebody at the Kremlin must be getting fired over this. Do they still send people off to count trees in Siberia, or is it all bullonium in their breakfast nowadays?

[Mig el Pig]

AWACS planes recognizing tank radar signature? Sure, though it only works against flying, and, to a certain extent, against jumping tanks.

So when their filled with hot air or helium AWACS work just fine

[Aru]

Serbs did the same thing during NATO bombings with great success. So much for modern 4. and 5. generation aircraft recognizing fully armed tank from a pile of old steel.