How to add a new unit into game

[Gigantus]

Then you have some error in the entries. Underneath is one section of your modelDB entry, does the second one look the same? There are possibly some line count errors.

21 johanite_hospitallers
1 3
58 unit_models/_Units/johanites/knights_hospitaller_lod0.mesh 121
58 unit_models/_Units/johanites/knights_hospitaller_lod1.mesh 900
58 unit_models/_Units/johanites/knights_hospitaller_lod2.mesh 1225
1
7 denmark
72 unit_models/_Units/johanites/textures/en_lmail_hmail_hospitaller.texture
76 unit_models/_Units/johanites/textures/en_lmail_hmail_crusader_normal.texture
54 unit_sprites/denmark_Dummy_EN_Plate_Knights_sprite.spr
1
7 denmark
67 unit_models/AttachmentSets/Final Special Heads_denmark_diff.texture
67 unit_models/AttachmentSets/Final Special Heads_denmark_norm.texture 0
1
5 Horse
13 MTW2_HR_Lance
13 MTW2_HR_Sword 2
21 MTW2_HR_Lance_Primary
14 fs_test_shield 2
18 MTW2_Sword_Primary
14 fs_test_shield
16 -0.090000004 0 0 -0.34999999 0.80000001 0.60000002

Maybe try the modelDB checker as well.

[BobaHat]

Right... Now it's really weird...

This is what my log says now (after the game simply doesn't start):

(...)
13:01:59.274 [system.io] [trace] file open,,data/shaders/new/mesh_fire_mt.vsh,594
13:01:59.274 [system.io] [info] open: found data/shaders/new/mesh_fire_mt.vsh (from: C:\Program Files\SEGA\Medieval II Total War)
13:01:59.274 [system.io] [info] exists: missing mods/Bare_Kingdoms/data/shaders/new/fleximesh0_fire_mt.vsh
13:01:59.275 [system.io] [trace] file open,,data/shaders/new/fleximesh0_fire_mt.vsh,517
13:01:59.275 [system.io] [info] open: found data/shaders/new/fleximesh0_fire_mt.vsh (from: C:\Program Files\SEGA\Medieval II Total War)
13:01:59.276 [system.io] [info] exists: missing mods/Bare_Kingdoms/data/shaders/new/fleximesh0_fire_mt.vsh
13:01:59.276 [system.io] [trace] file open,,data/shaders/new/fleximesh0_fire_mt.vsh,517
13:01:59.276 [system.io] [info] open: found data/shaders/new/fleximesh0_fire_mt.vsh (from: C:\Program Files\SEGA\Medieval II Total War)
13:01:59.280 [system.io] [trace] exists: 10: caching directory: mods/bare_kingdoms/data/unit_models
13:01:59.280 [system.io] [trace] exists: 88: caching file: mods/bare_kingdoms/data/unit_models/battle_models.modeldb (1273143687)
13:01:59.280 [system.io] [trace] exists: 89: caching file: mods/bare_kingdoms/data/unit_models/_units (1273125592)
13:01:59.280 [system.io] [info] exists: found mods/Bare_Kingdoms/data/unit_models/battle_models.modelDB (from: C:\Program Files\SEGA\Medieval II Total War)
13:01:59.284 [system.io] [trace] file open,,mods/Bare_Kingdoms/data/unit_models/battle_models.modelDB,1124979
13:01:59.284 [system.io] [info] open: found mods/Bare_Kingdoms/data/unit_models/battle_models.modelDB (from: C:\Program Files\SEGA\Medieval II Total War)
13:01:59.395 [system.rpt] [error] Uh oh. This isn't good. No idea why, but exiting now. Sorry pal.

[Beorn]

This is the models_db

card_longspear
1 1
52 unit_models/_Units/cardolan/card_longspear_lod0.mesh 6400
1
5 turks
59 unit_models/_Units/cardolan/textures/card_longspear.texture
66 unit_models/_Units/cardolan/textures/card_longspear_normal.texture
42 unit_sprites/turks_greenwood_tg_sprite.spr
1
5 turks
58 unit_models/AttachmentSets/card_longspear_att_diff.texture
58 unit_models/AttachmentSets/card_longspear_att_norm.texture 0
1
4 None
20 MTW2_Halberd_Primary
22 MTW2_Halberd_Secondary 1
17 MTW2_Pike_primary 1
17 MTW2_Pike_primary
16 -0.090000004 0 0 -0.34999999 0.80000001 0.60000002

and this is the EDU entry:

type Cardolan LongSpearmen
dictionary Cardolan_LongSpearmen
category infantry
class heavy
voice_type Heavy
banner faction main_infantry
banner holy crusade
soldier card_longspear, 60, 0, 1.2
officer eriador_captain_early_flag
mount_effect horse +6, camel +6, elephant -4
attributes sea_faring, hide_forest, can_withdraw, free_upkeep_unit
formation 1.2, 0, 2.4, 2.4, 4, square, phalanx
stat_health 1, 3
stat_pri 7, 4, no, 0, 0, melee, melee_blade, piercing, axe, 100, 1
stat_pri_attr ap, spear, spear_bonus_4
stat_sec 0, 0, no, 0, 0, no, melee_simple, blunt, none, 0, 1
stat_sec_attr no
stat_pri_armour 6, 5, 0, metal
stat_sec_armour 0, 0, flesh
stat_heat 4
stat_ground 0, -1, -1, -2
stat_mental 14, normal, trained
stat_charge_dist 15
stat_fire_delay 0
stat_food 60, 300
stat_cost 1, 620, 240, 75, 75, 620, 4, 100
armour_ug_levels 2
armour_ug_models card_longspear
ownership turks
era 0 turks
era 1 turks
era 2 turks
recruit_priority_offset 5

I have placed the attachments, .mesh files, and textures in the right folders, and after that I get a CTD in the splash screen.

here's my log :
http://www.sendspace.com/file/o4s3yn

[Stephan]

you forgot the number before

card_longspear

it should be

14 card_longspear

[Gigantus]

Next time please compress your log before you upload it.

My guess (haven't downloaded the 7MB log): count on top of modeldb doesn't agree with numbers of models.
Did you add to that number (see below as sample)?

22 serialization::archive 3 0 0 0 0 132 0 0

[Beorn]

Ιτ's the problem Gigantus mentioned; solved now

[emotion_name]

open the "_units" folder which is locaded in the "unit_models" folder and create a new folder and call it "new_folder" and in this folder you create another one and call it "textures"

instead of "new_folder" you can use any other name but just remember it has to be the same as the green marked one in the battle_models file

I cant find the units or the unit models folder anywhere? Please help me!

I really want to add Ireland/Wales and others from Kingdoms to main M2TW Campaign map, and adding there unit rosters im told is the first step!

I have a mod folder for everything im doing, could this be why i cannot find the units folder? I have checked everywhere in main M2TW root folder as well!

(the mod folder im using is Bare_Geomod, if it helps at all)

I'll be grateful for any replies that can help me, i know its going to be a big task to do what i want, im kinda looking forwards to it, but have fallen at the first step!

(well, first step of text editing! I also failed at first step of mapping but have that sorted now!)

[emotion_name]

I used the unpacker again, just to see, and again i do not have the -units folder for main m2tw, nor this battle_models.modeldb.

When i view Kingdoms folders, the unit_models folder and -units folder within it are there exactly as you said it would be, along with a battle_models.model.db for each one.

Using gigantus New Faction Tool i noticed there is a battle_models.modeldb in that, but i am unable to edit it in any way.

Its still a modeldb file, and nothing i have will work with it. How do i convert it or what program must i use to work with it?

[irishron]

@emotion_name, Vista or 7, default directotory with UAC enabled? If si you only got about 26, 000 of the 36,000 that unpacked.

[emotion_name]

Vista is my OS, and i dont have UAC activated!

in regards to default directory you ask me, im guessing you mean did i install M2TW into default location, to which answer is yes!

the unpacker, following Alpaca "How to Mod Folder" guide, is pointing to unpack everything into backup folder within main M2TW folder.

[irishron]

When the 1.02 patch was released and the same time Vista was released, the only way I could get all the packs to unpack was editing the unpack_all. bat four times and unpack them one at a time.

That was also default directory, with and without UAC.

[emotion_name]

Hmmm, my M2TW is on 1.3 patch, could this be another reason why?

How did you edit the unpack all bat, to make it do what? I mean, i know you right click and open to edit it, but what did you actually put and what was its purpose?


So far i have tried:

unpack_americas.bat --(worked fine)
unpack_britannia.bat --(worked fine)
unpack_crusades.bat --(worked fine)
unpack_teutonic.bat --(worked fine)

unpacker application --(some files missing)
unpack_all --(got same results as if i did all the above one by one again)

Heck, i even run the list_contents.bat to see if it would help, and nothing.

[Gigantus]

Try the attached bat file: it will unpack vanilla into c:\extract

[irishron]

unpacker.exe --source=..\..\packs\*.pack --destination=..\..\ --verbosity=1 is what the unpack_all.bat looks like in edit form.

An old DOS trick when not enough ram.

*.pack--destination can be edited to data0.pack--destination, data1.pack--destination, data2.pack--destination, data3.pack--destination, data4.pack--destinaion, localized.pack. Edit for the first one, run it, edit for the second one, run it, etc. You do that for all six of them, you will have your files and floders unpacked.

1.3 is the multiplayer fix for 1.2. It has nothing to do with these files.

[emotion_name]

Try the attached bat file: it will unpack vanilla into c:\extract

I placed the bat file into tools/unpacker and then run it!

When it finished i went into Crive/Extract/Data and the only files it unpacked are

animations folder
banners folder
battlefield folder
blockset folder
battle_config
battle_event_subtitles_lookup
battlecameras

Am i doing some thing wrong with it for it to not show the units folder still?

unpacker.exe --source=..\..\packs\*.pack --destination=..\..\ --verbosity=1 is what the unpack_all.bat looks like in edit form.

An old DOS trick when not enough ram.

*.pack--destination can be edited to data0.pack--destination, data1.pack--destination, data2.pack--destination, data3.pack--destination, data4.pack--destinaion, localized.pack. Edit for the first one, run it, edit for the second one, run it, etc. You do that for all six of them, you will have your files and floders unpacked.

1.3 is the multiplayer fix for 1.2. It has nothing to do with these files.

I also tried doing this, and still i cannot see the files i need. When i edited it for data0, data1, data2, data3 and data4 and run it, after putting "y" to the three questions it asks the unpacker simply closed.

For localised.pack it seemed to unpack a few files, but it lasted less than 10 seconds.

I have the models folder, but within it is just textures folder and a load of CAS files. I also have models_effects, models_engine, models_landscape and a few more, but none of them units!

What else can i try guys?

My unpack all bat file is edited to this

unpacker.exe --source=..\..\packs\*.pack --destination=..\..\backup --verbosity=1

so i can see no errors there! Im beginning to think im doomed to never get this done!

[Gigantus]

I am starting to suspect a faulty game installation or the virtual store.
I have got vista, and the UAC is enabled BEFORE I install the game.
When installing I do not use the default directory (because otherwise your extracted files partially end up in the virtual store)
When extracting I use my batch to avoid messing up the original installation by accident.

Before you follow my example, have a look in your virtual store if the files are there. You will need to 'unhide' your hidden files (control panel\folder options - check the pic) and then look here: C:\Users\Your Username\AppData\Local\VirtualStore

[emotion_name]

I also installed when UAC was turned on, however i just installed the game where it wanted to go, i didnt play around with anything.

I used to use the virtual store path to place my saves into M2TW Folder for hotseats etc, as placing them in standard C Drive/program files wouldnt work. Now UAC is off they work in C Drive program files.

Anyways, at Virtual Store/Program Files/SEGA/M2TW i have:

Armies folder
Cache folder
Config folder
custom folder
data folder
logs folder
mods folder
playerlists folder
preferences folder
replays folder
saves folder
temp folder
preferences cfg file

These folders are all visible in the C Drive/Program Files path however.

The folders in the Virtual store path are near empty, for example data folder has one folder within it - world, which in turn has only one folder within it - maps.

There is no tools/unpacker folder in the Virtual Store path though, so am i now screwed?

If i have to uninstall and reinstall with UAC off, how do i do a clean uninstall, making sure these files from Virtual Store are removed for good. Also, wont it mean when re-installing i will have to repatch, reinstall Kingdoms, repatch that, then reinstall the mods i have (SS, KGCM, CCM etc) then redo everything i had made with Bare_Geomod (doesnt this point in someway, when installed, to M2TW? So if i reinstall M2TW then will it not work?)

Isnt there anything i can try without needing to uninstall?

What would happen if i copied the tools/unpacker into the Virtual Store then run the unpack_all BAT? Would i get the files i need or will i need to edit the BAT file for it to know it needs to unpack the Virtual Store location, not the C Drive location?

Oh, what about the modeldb file thing in your New Faction installer gigantus, couldnt i just copy that over into my main M2TW folder then run unpacker?

[irishron]

Where did you get the game?

[Gigantus]

If you re-install you will have to patch and install kingdoms. But you can use a backup of the mods folder (move it somewhere else) and move it back once you re-installed.

Uninstall: simply run the uninstallers (kingdoms first) and then manually delete the left overs. Check the virtual store and do the same. Restart the comp to take care of the registry entries and then start re-installing everything, finishing of with the mods folder. You will have to create new short cuts to your mod then. Average time: 2.5 hours (did it myself a few times).

[emotion_name]

@irishiron

I bought it from a Game store, M2TW Gamers choice, 2 disc PC DVD Rom!

Could it be becauseits Gamers Choice, same thing as platinum PS games i guess where they cheaper coz of age or summin, so some files not included?

@gigantus

right, i have those instructions, thanks mate!

When i install again, with UAC turned off, do i need to point the installer somewhere else, or leave it to do its thing?


Thanks for your persistence in helping me guys, i know it must get a bit tedious sometimes having someone as clueless as myself and having to repeat things over and over, so mucho appreciation from myself!