Northern Ireland does not represent that flag and is not allowed to. Ireland hasn't been part of the UK since 1919. It's time we get the old Union Flag back.
Tribunus
Why does the Union Flag still have the St Patrick cross on it?
Northern Ireland does not represent that flag and is not allowed to. Ireland hasn't been part of the UK since 1919. It's time we get the old Union Flag back.
Re: Why does the Union Flag still have the St Patrick cross on it?
The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland.
falnk with cavlary. stay a way from muder hoels.
Tribunus
Re: Why does the Union Flag still have the St Patrick cross on it?
Northern ireland is represented by the Union Flag officialy and the Flag of Ulster unofficially.Originally Posted by Dodge
Seems like the St Patricks cross is a forgotten remnant from days of empire.
Miles
Re: Why does the Union Flag still have the St Patrick cross on it?
That's the same for every nation of the Union. Their official flag is the Union Flag, the flag of the Union, however all four nations use 2nd flags to identify their individual national identities.
I think we should revise the Union Flag, but do it so that it incorporates Wales. Which was omitted from the Union Flag because it is a Principality and not a sovereign nation. I think it would be awesome to have a Dragon it!
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Laetus
Re: Why does the Union Flag still have the St Patrick cross on it?
I've always thought the Union Flag rather garish.
The EU one is much prettier.
Miles
Re: Why does the Union Flag still have the St Patrick cross on it?
God no, a bunch of stars that don't represent me? pissflaps to it I say. Pissflaps!!I've always thought the Union Flag rather garish.
The EU one is much prettier.
Wit is educated insolence ~ Aristole
History will be kind to me for I intend to write it. ~ Churchill
That is the essential difference between Britain and the rest of the world. The French see a table and see a potential for dinner. The British see the potential to play wiff-waff. ~ Boris Johnson
Tribunus
Re: Why does the Union Flag still have the St Patrick cross on it?
Out. Get out. Get out now.I've always thought the Union Flag rather garish.
The EU one is much prettier.
Protector Domesticus
Re: Why does the Union Flag still have the St Patrick cross on it?
I know what he means when he says "garrish". Its certainly a very pretty flag....almost... too pretty if you know what I mean.
Laetus
Re: Why does the Union Flag still have the St Patrick cross on it?
It's not that I'd rather have a European flag, it's just that ours is a bit tacky. Maybe we could keep the same colours, but arrange them into bars?
What? No...? Oh.
Miles
Re: Why does the Union Flag still have the St Patrick cross on it?
A bit tacky!?It's not that I'd rather have a European flag, it's just that ours is a bit tacky. Maybe we could keep the same colours, but arrange them into bars?
What? No...? Oh.
Lol it's definitely a lot better than a tricolor. I mean EVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVERYONE has a Tricolor from Ireland, Holland, Germany, Italy, Spain, France, Luxembourgh, Belgium, Russia, Romania. and many more I can't even think of off the top of my head lol. Atleast ours is different.
When I was little I always wished our flag was one of those funky off kilter crosses like what the Scandinavians have.
Wit is educated insolence ~ Aristole
History will be kind to me for I intend to write it. ~ Churchill
That is the essential difference between Britain and the rest of the world. The French see a table and see a potential for dinner. The British see the potential to play wiff-waff. ~ Boris Johnson
Protector Domesticus
Re: Why does the Union Flag still have the St Patrick cross on it?
If prefix's tell me anything, its that your flag is a "tricolor".
Senator
Re: Why does the Union Flag still have the St Patrick cross on it?
The welsh dragon, the St. Patrick's cross...You brits never settle down your issues with your flag.And I agree with Milanese Dynasty, three-color-fringed flags are boring and over-extended throughout the world.
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Re: Why does the Union Flag still have the St Patrick cross on it?
The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland.
The Union Flag/Jack is made up of each of the countries patron saint's flags.
St. George. - England &Wales (Wales is not separate from England officially)
St. Andrew. - Scotland
St. Patrick. - Ireland, successor state being NORTHERN Ireland.
/thread
Civis
Re: Why does the Union Flag still have the St Patrick cross on it?
Is that true? I used to live with two welshies at uni and by God did they dislike us English. I doubt they feel any sort of affiliation with the St George's cross. Don't they have their own parliament though?
The day the Welsh dragon appears on the Union Flag is the day I sell up and move to France. Ain't gonna happen.
Bunneh Ressurection
Re: Why does the Union Flag still have the St Patrick cross on it?
That's not why, it's because Wales was never technically joined the union, as it was conquered by the English.I think we should revise the Union Flag, but do it so that it incorporates Wales. Which was omitted from the Union Flag because it is a Principality and not a sovereign nation. I think it would be awesome to have a Dragon it!
What's wrong with the second red cross for NI anyway?
Give a man a fire, and he'll be warm for the rest of the day.
Set a man on fire, and he'll be warm for the rest of his life.
Re: Why does the Union Flag still have the St Patrick cross on it?
No, but Wales was a province of England, like Cornwall. Or should Cornwall be represented too? So they both counted as part of England, and thus shared England's saint.
An Assembly, a glorified local council.Don't they have their own parliament though?
Even if we were to have Wales represented on the flag it would be the St. Davids flag, not any Dragon.The day the Welsh dragon appears on the Union Flag is the day I sell up and move to France. Ain't gonna happen.
Civis
Re: Why does the Union Flag still have the St Patrick cross on it?
My other half is from Cornwall (Yes the webbed-feet are a tad annoying but on the whole she's a good lass) and certainly feels very proud of her cornish roots, but I think the Welsh see themselves as far more seperate from England than the Cornish do.
Re: Why does the Union Flag still have the St Patrick cross on it?
The Cornish are far smaller in number, weaker historically in resolve, and not as culturally independent thanks to centuries of assimilation but the Welsh, at least in recent times thanks to Cymru and the devolution have had a little revitalisation. But in the last century the Welsh dislike of the English was like the Yorkshire dislike of Lancashire. Regional, as opposed to national.
Civis
Re: Why does the Union Flag still have the St Patrick cross on it?
Are you a yorkshireman?
Re: Why does the Union Flag still have the St Patrick cross on it?
I am indeed.
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