Buried generals - no legs

[es157]

Even using your file, the result is the same.

I assume the formatting is flawless, but something else in my files is incompatible with the changes you made. Thoughts?

[Gigantus]

Did you make changes in the EDU?

[es157]

Did you make changes in the EDU?

A few, yes. But the file was already completely changed from vanilla.

I don't remember every change I made, but I hardly ever do anything other than editting stats.

[Gigantus]

Let's try some log stuff:

Go into the CFG file of your mod (Notepad again) and make sure an entry like this exists. Ignore the entries after the hash signs, those are only comments.

[log] 
to = system.log.txt                    # path and name of log
level = * trace                        # detailed log

The important thing is the level line is set exactly like that.

Save and start the mod. Once it crashes look for the log, in the above setting it will be in the root directory with the name entered in the 'to' line. Upload it and let me have the link.

Next time someone asks you for a 'trace log' you know what to do

[es157]

https://easyupload.io/jg0p4i

Here it is (I hope).

To be honest, I never understood the usefulness of this trace config.. All it seems to do is point to the file that likely caused the crash, which in most cases is obvious anyway. But perhaps I'm wrong.

[Gigantus]

Often it also shows non fatal errors which eventually accumulate to a critical mass. In this case it's however certainly the modeldb file.

Something wrong with the format of the edited part. I am not sure if it the custom 'horse' section that causes it but you can try to replace it with a default entry.

custom:

5 Horse
13 MTW2_HR_Lance
13 MTW2_HR_Sword 2
21 MTW2_HR_Lance_Primary
14 fs_test_shield 2
18 MTW2_Sword_Primary
14 fs_test_shield 
0

replace with default:

5 horse 
12 MTW2_HR_Mace 0  
1 
17 MTW2_Mace_Primary 
0

There is a drawback if that works - the regular unit will also have that animation set. But that can be fixed pretty easy by simply copying the original entry (without the multiple animation sets) into the present modeldb, give the multiple animation model a new name and use that name in descr_characters. Don't forget to check the line count number of the general model's entry (example underneath) and increase the model count number in the first line of the modeldb file (second example):

11 New_General

22 serialization::archive 3 0 0 0 0 1604 0 0

In principle you will then have the original model with the original horse animation for the regular unit and the original model with the multiple animation for the general.

[es157]

Oh boy. I'm trying to suit myself with what you gave me, but I think there is something fundamentally broken about my mod. Maybe something is missing that prevents those addons from working. Unfortunately I don't know anything about models and animations, so I'm walking entirely in the dark here.

I tried to add the infantry animations without the elephant and camel ones, and this time the game did not crash on launch. However it did crash when loading a battle.

I changed this:

1
5 Horse
13 MTW2_HR_Lance
13 MTW2_HR_Sword 2
21 MTW2_HR_Lance_Primary
14 fs_test_shield 2
18 MTW2_Sword_Primary
14 fs_test_shield
16 -0.090000004 0 0 -0.34999999 0.80000001 0.60000002

Into this:

2
4 None
14 MTW2_Fast_Mace 0
1
17 MTW2_Mace_Primary
0
5 Horse
13 MTW2_HR_Lance
13 MTW2_HR_Sword 2
21 MTW2_HR_Lance_Primary
14 fs_test_shield 2
18 MTW2_Sword_Primary
14 fs_test_shield
0

Why would it not work?

[es157]

Something wrong with the format of the edited part. I am not sure if it the custom 'horse' section that causes it but you can try to replace it with a default entry.

custom:

5 Horse
13 MTW2_HR_Lance
13 MTW2_HR_Sword 2
21 MTW2_HR_Lance_Primary
14 fs_test_shield 2
18 MTW2_Sword_Primary
14 fs_test_shield 
0

replace with default:

5 horse 
12 MTW2_HR_Mace 0  
1 
17 MTW2_Mace_Primary 
0

About this, I did it and there was no crash at launch. I haven't tested the battles, but... isn't that just the cavalry animation? I never had a problem with that one specifically.

[AnthoniusII]

Take a look of our Roman_Captain bmdb entry:

  13 roman_captain 
  1 1 
  61 unit_models/Generals_and_Captains/byzantine/captain_lod0.mesh 6400 
  4 
  9 byzantium 
  68 unit_models/Generals_and_Captains/byzantine/textures/captain.texture 
  73 unit_models/Generals_and_Captains/byzantine/textures/captain_norm.texture 0 
  7 byz_reb 
  68 unit_models/Generals_and_Captains/byzantine/textures/captain.texture 
  73 unit_models/Generals_and_Captains/byzantine/textures/captain_norm.texture 0 
  6 poland 
  68 unit_models/Generals_and_Captains/byzantine/textures/captain.texture 
  73 unit_models/Generals_and_Captains/byzantine/textures/captain_norm.texture 0 
  5 slave 
  68 unit_models/Generals_and_Captains/byzantine/textures/captain.texture 
  73 unit_models/Generals_and_Captains/byzantine/textures/captain_norm.texture 0 
  4 
  9 byzantium 
  71 unit_models/Generals_and_Captains/byzantine/textures/RCH_attach.texture 
  76 unit_models/Generals_and_Captains/byzantine/textures/RCH_attach_norm.texture 0 
  7 byz_reb 
  71 unit_models/Generals_and_Captains/byzantine/textures/RCH_attach.texture 
  76 unit_models/Generals_and_Captains/byzantine/textures/RCH_attach_norm.texture 0 
  6 poland 
  71 unit_models/Generals_and_Captains/byzantine/textures/RCH_attach.texture 
  76 unit_models/Generals_and_Captains/byzantine/textures/RCH_attach_norm.texture 0 
  5 slave 
  71 unit_models/Generals_and_Captains/byzantine/textures/RCH_attach.texture 
  76 unit_models/Generals_and_Captains/byzantine/textures/RCH_attach_norm.texture 0 
  4 
  4 None 
  14 MTW2_Fast_Mace 0 
  1 
  17 MTW2_Mace_Primary 
  0 
  5 horse 
  12 MTW2_HR_Mace 0 
  1 
  17 MTW2_Mace_Primary 
  0 
  8 elephant 
  18 MTW2_Elephant_Crew 0 
  1 
  17 MTW2_Mace_Primary 
  0 
  5 camel 
  12 MTW2_HR_Mace 0 
  1 
  17 MTW2_Mace_Primary 
  0 
  -1 0 0 0 0 0 0 

Compare it with yours for changes.
To deside if a captain will be only on foot it had to do with the unit he will be attached to.
For example
In EDU file that all units are in there is a place for cpatains or generals ir bannermen.
See them.


The captain is available to every unit so he can walk or mount any horse. The bannerman is attached to that spesific unit though.
If you have attached a "character" (as character we mean , general, captain, officer, bannerman) in a mounted unitonly in EDU BUT AS CHARACTER is available to all units you will face that problem.

If in all characters you add the animation section (highlited in red) you will have no problem. Try to copy paste this section to your character.
In EDU though you must be extra carefull about the spelling in the characters in a unit (officers, bannermen) because Captains, Generals, Heirs and Kings will apear in every leading unit in an army.
Here is an EDU example:

type             Tagma Ton Teichon
dictionary       Tagma_Ton_Teichon
category         infantry
class            missile
voice_type       Heavy
accent           Mediterranean
banner faction   main_infantry
banner holy      crusade
soldier          Teichon, 48, 0, 0.8
officer          roman_captain
officer          Teichon_B
attributes       sea_faring, hide_forest, hardy, extreme_range, can_withdraw, free_upkeep_unit
formation        1.2, 1.2, 2.4, 2.4, 4, square
stat_health      1, 0
stat_pri         8, 1, eastern_arrow, 190, 36, missile, missile_mechanical, piercing, none, 0, 1
stat_pri_attr    no
stat_sec         8, 5, no, 0, 0, melee, melee_blade, piercing, sword, 20, 1
stat_sec_attr    no
stat_pri_armour  11, 4, 6, metal
stat_sec_armour  0, 0, flesh
stat_heat        2
stat_ground      3, -1, 1, 0
stat_mental      13, disciplined, trained
stat_charge_dist 30
stat_fire_delay  0
stat_food        60, 300
stat_cost        1, 900, 325, 65, 50, 220, 4, 50
armour_ug_levels 0, 1
armour_ug_models Teichon, Teichon_upg1
ownership        byzantium
era 0            byzantium
era 1            byzantium
era 2            byzantium

If the name of the characters in the unit has somehow a different spelling the game will crash.
In rare occasions some unit names create CTDs and I was forced to change them. That has no obvius reaon though that I can explain for it.

[Gigantus]

I think it's the not the original horse animation itself, but rather it's use in a multiple animation set up, hence why I suggested to try the default horse animation setup.

Anthonius is correct that the same animation issue will apply if you use officers, but in your case that is not applicable.

[es157]

Well, guys, I think I will give up on this thread for now and use what ever tips and info you provided to search for the better solution on my own. So far, nothing seems to be working, so I might do some more testing with the file and if it fails I might just remove the infantry generals altogether.

Thanks to all for the help. I just don't want to hold anyone here and make this thread unnecessarily long over such a small issue.