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    Default [GS Event] TAG Semi Finals - Match II

    After the bloody quarter finals, the next challenge awaits each team! The Difficulty increases significantly, as in this round there will be many new elements of hotseating that you will need to dominate to win, such as expanded siege and agents rules, underdeveloped starting settlements and expansions against AI.

    We will be using Ancient Conquest mod. You can download the mod from its mod page LINK
    and you have to apply a minor HS patch (just extract into your Ancient Conquest mod folder and overwrite) LINK 2

    The semi finals and finals are hosted here in TWC.

    Visit the TAG tavern to discuss the tournament - LINK

    TEAMS

    Team I: Syracuse and Thracs - jimmy total war (jimmy_dude + Epic Total War)
    Team II: Sparta and Egypt - Forth Eorlings (joerock22 + Chieftain Khuzaymah)
    Team III: Satrapy of Lydia and Cilicia - Tits and Wine (Bantu Chieftain + Isenbard)

    Rules
    (for semifinals)

    General:
    - The hotseat will last 25 turns, unless the winner is clear sooner.
    - All teams must fight properly till the end, despite their defeat possibly being unavoidable, until the winner team is declared, either by both loosing teams admitting defeat, or by admins declaring a winner after the turns limit (Victors would be decided by a vote amongst the organizers based on how each faction managed in general).
    - NO BENDING/ALLIANCES with other teams and no diplomacy at all.
    - PASSWORDS IN THE TEAM MUST BE SHARED with your teammate. No admin subbing, if one of the players cant play his turn, his teammate shall sub him. The factions played by the team will not be assigned to players by admins, it will be up to players within the team to decide who plays which factions. The players are of course meant to plan and play for both factions together.
    - PM the next whole team that it is their turn. You have 24 hours to play each turn, 48 hours per team.
    - 2 strike rule when it comes to a team being late. If your late 2 times with no warning, word or reason then you'll be kicked.
    - The Western corner of the map is out bounds, as well as Persepolis (see the map preview). Nobody may enter these regions during the entirety of the Hotseat.
    - Not allowed to call invasions or similar.
    - Restrictions for siege, agents and so on dont apply against AI.

    Bugs and Exploits:
    - No exploits/bugs allowed: Posting defeats, making walls of units on map to disallow enemy agents to move and stomping/killing agents with units, surrounding armies/navies to deny retreat, intentionally spreading a plague with agents/units, stepping on a merchant to remove him from a trade resource, exploiting AI factions ( for example demanding/accepting money or settlements from AI factions), and more.
    - Not allowed to give money to your other faction if you are bankrupted.
    - Full list of exploits and bugs here
    https://www.twcenter.net/forums/show...cussion-Thread

    Military rules:
    - You cannot attack enemy lands of opponent teams, if they have not played their first turn yet.** You can however cross lands of theirs during the 1st turn, if your army doesnt stand in enemy territory after it has finished movement). You can enter your ally's lands on turn 1. It means for example, that during the 1st turn, Syracuse cannot attack Sparta, but Sparta can attack Syracuse.
    - All battles are auto-resolved. Screenshots must be posted with: odds and result screens, mouse over the odds bar to show the ratio, the armies involved with their banners visible on the campaign map, unit card of siege unit must be visible if used to directly assault settlement. In some matches manual battles against AI will be allowed.
    - Armies that are defeated in battle by a player that comes after them in the turn list may not move the following turn. This is to make it fair for people who are defeated by players that come before them in the turn list. Armies standing in a settlement/fort when defeated are excluded from this rule.
    - 2 forts per region per team, and forts need to have a garrison of at least 5 units, to limit fort spamming a bit. You are allowed to build forts only in the regions you own!
    - Ships cannot leave blockaded ports. It's not allowed to keep units protected by placing them in ships docked in a port.
    - It is allowed to block ports via ground troops. At least 2 units per ship required.
    - Not allowed to besiege a settlement to deny its garrison participation in battle in your turn.
    - You are not allowed to besiege a settlement to deny enemy retreat into it in your turn.
    - You are not allowed to build watchtowers.
    - Heroic victories are 100% banned and illegal. If you get a heroic victory repeatedly, contact an Admin and we may allow it.
    - Bribed units/agents cant move for one turn. As bribed generals are also counted generals stolen by princesses.
    - No ransoming allowed
    - You are not allowed to lure an ambushing army a tile closer, for example to bring it in range of more of your forces.
    - Siege engines are allowed
    - Each unit of siege equipment can be used just once in each turn to take settlement.
    - Ballistas can assault wooden walls and forts,
    - catapults can also assault basic stone walls (but not large/huge stone walls)


    Agent rules:
    - Spies are not allowed to open Gates on players, unless there is at least 60% (for large/huge settlement its 80%) chance of entering into the settlement/fort. If a spy was has been in city/fort for several turns, you will have to leave the settlement and enter it again. If inside the settlement/fort is at least 1200 soldiers (720 for large/huge settlements), than spies may not open the gates anyway. Screenshots must be provided
    - Assassins cannot sabotage and are not allowed to kill family members or generals. Assassins need at least 60% chance to kill other agents, for enemy assassins/spies just 30% is required. Screenshots must be provided
    - Princess must have over 30% odds of success in order to steal a general. Pictures must be posted as proof of these odds. However, if the stealing of a general leads to a bug, such as that a besieging enemy army lifts the siege, then it would not be allowed.
    - Merchants need 60% to acquire other merchant's assets. Only allowed in your own regions, Rebel Controlled Regions, or regions you have aquired Trade rights to. Screenshots required
    - It is not allowed to put agents that cant be bribed into forts (princesses, priests,...)

    Settlement rules:
    - Destruction of buildings is not allowed. Only exceptions are churches of foreign religions. They can be destroyed immediately after taking a settlement
    - Settlements gifted to your teammate should disband all units save one. No gifting regions in a war zone (bordering faction at war with, or under threat). Only allowed once per 5 turns.


    MAP
    You can check video preview for the semi finals map by YTWM - https://youtu.be/f8cX1RKh8uc
    He will also soon publish reviews of each quarter final match!


    Good luck!
    Last edited by Jadli; April 16, 2021 at 07:19 AM.

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    Default Re: [GS Event] TAG Semi Finals - Match II

    Syracuse and Thracia up! (you need to redownload the HS patch as I updated it)

    Keep in mind to reread the rules, as they have been significantly expanded, compared to the QFs. Also I remind that the AI factions are fully inactive, so you dont need to worry about them attacking you.


    Good luck to all of you once again, lets let the best team prove themselves champions, worthy of entering the finals!
    Last edited by Jadli; March 09, 2021 at 08:06 AM.

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    Default Re: [GS Event] TAG Semi Finals - Match II

    My bad, use the new save with correct turn order and smal change to Egypt vs Cilicia ports (as I forgot that I have Egpt two stone settlements at coast to face on large stone settlement of Cilicia... bow either has one coast large city, and one normal city... + Sidion to fight for)


    EDIT

    Lol, third time then. Use this save https://www.mediafire.com/file/argnv...se_T1.sav/file (in the previous one, I left toggle_fow on)
    Last edited by Jadli; March 09, 2021 at 10:40 AM.

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    Default Re: [GS Event] TAG Semi Finals - Match II

    https://drive.google.com/file/d/1wC2acJSmQ2dD0nvZqTLQJFeFNhrlJ1BW/view?usp=sharing does this site have pings? Here's your turn joerock22 and Chieftain Khuzaymah. Idk what the procedure is here, I am a discord creature.

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    Default Re: [GS Event] TAG Semi Finals - Match II

    Looks like it didn't actually add my link, so here: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1wC2acJSmQ2dD0nvZqTLQJFeFNhrlJ1BW/view

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    Default Re: [GS Event] TAG Semi Finals - Match II

    Their profiles are linked the OP (the first post) so you can send them a visitor messge via their profile, which is how we generally do it on TWC. Though its up to you how you notify people, as long as its a way that works for them as well

    EDIT

    Congratulations on being the first time to post a turn from both matches I suppose
    Last edited by Jadli; March 11, 2021 at 01:41 PM.

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    Default Re: [GS Event] TAG Semi Finals - Match II

    Ok, I will message them, didn't know how it was done here. Thanks!

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    Default Re: [GS Event] TAG Semi Finals - Match II

    Joerock and me were both either occupied or out of town for the last few days. We probably need an extra day for this!
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    Default Re: [GS Event] TAG Semi Finals - Match II

    Alright then, hope you dont exceed the extension

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    Default Re: [GS Event] TAG Semi Finals - Match II

    Lydia up!
    https://drive.google.com/file/d/1E9N...ew?usp=sharing

    So...we're back to TWCenter, huh? You know what this means, don't you...it's time for the Return of Google Drive!!! No more of this heathen "drag and drop" from Discord.

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    Quote Originally Posted by joerock22 View Post
    Lydia up!
    https://drive.google.com/file/d/1E9N...ew?usp=sharing

    So...we're back to TWCenter, huh? You know what this means, don't you...it's time for the Return of Google Drive!!! No more of this heathen "drag and drop" from Discord.
    You can still do that, you just have to add the save somewhere on discord, then you can copy it's link into TWC.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Jadli View Post
    Alright then, hope you dont exceed the extension
    Not even close. We were only a few hours later, but also didn't get the VM notification for our turn. In that way discord may be faster, but.....

    Quote Originally Posted by joerock22 View Post
    Lydia up!
    https://drive.google.com/file/d/1E9N...ew?usp=sharing

    So...we're back to TWCenter, huh? You know what this means, don't you...it's time for the Return of Google Drive!!! No more of this heathen "drag and drop" from Discord.
    'Google drive comes back to us now, at the turn of the tide!' as a wise, old man once said.. (sort of)

    Anyways, good luck to everyone!!
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    Default Re: [GS Event] TAG Semi Finals - Match II

    Did I notify you guys in the wrong place about the turn? I thought I sent you guys a message on here, though I don't usually use TWC for my hotseats so I don't know where I'm supposed to message people for their turns.

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    Default Re: [GS Event] TAG Semi Finals - Match II

    Well, you send VMs by clicking view profile and leave them a visitor message But as I said, you can notify ppl other way as well...

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    No, I didn't get a PM or VM. But you can also notify us on discord if you want. It will be faster for me as well
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    Hehe, this is like the first time in my life that I saw Bantu play on time

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jadli View Post
    Hehe, this is like the first time in my life that I saw Bantu play on time
    That's good news

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    https://drive.google.com/file/d/1TGPPTdKaU99BA_UInQsZgHcnmVwUwe4I/view?usp=sharing @joerock22 @Chieftain Khuzaymah Sparta 2

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