Help make historical battles

[Kjertesvein]

A couple of YouTubers have requested players to send in battle replays. I would appreciate if anyone wanted to join to play a couple of battles with a historical context. Obviously, it's not try-hard or anything (I'm not a good player ). We play for fun and the result doesn't matter.

I would also appreciate if anyone have any cool battles to recreate and if you have any cool ideas. Battle of Agincourt?

So yeah. I think it sounds awesome.

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How to set this up.

You can either shoot me a Personal Message with your steam name or post it here. I'll try to add you back.

Post which historical battle you wish to take part in. 1 v 1 is easier to arrange, but for large battles we need to coordinate a bit more via Steam. That's the basics of it all.

Just a tip: We can do some really epic battles as well, if you look in the Steam Workshop under Maps. Riverfort, King of the Hill 2.0 and Barbarian Forest are pretty cool.

~Wille

[LaggyWolf]

I always enjoyed the idea of doing things like this but haven't really gotten the chance (either bad timezones/I don't feel like playing total war). But I'd be down with anything since this mod since it debuts tomorrow.

Though I don't know about Agincourt (or Crecy / Poiters) as it's just lots of longbows, dead horses, and dead/captured french nobility set on repeat.

[Kjertesvein]

I always enjoyed the idea of doing things like this but haven't really gotten the chance (either bad timezones/I don't feel like playing total war). But I'd be down with anything since this mod since it debuts tomorrow.

Though I don't know about Agincourt (or Crecy / Poiters) as it's just lots of longbows, dead horses, and dead/captured french nobility set on repeat.

H aha. Point taken.

~Wille

[Kjertesvein]

I was thinking the Battle of Grunwald would be nice. We have Lithuania, Poland, Teutonic and Pomerania, so it's possible to do that. They also have some interesting drawings of army positions, although I apologize in advance for my lack of knowledge of this battle. We're probably going to slaughter some historical facts, not just men.

I'm open to other suggestions.

~Wille

[Imperator Karl franz IV SIGMA]

i would really like to play with you that would be nice

[Kjertesvein]

Sure. Join in.

And if anyone, for what ever reason can't join us, here are the emails of some respective YouTubers.

OverkillTW: manofwar132@gmail.com
Alex the Rambler: ramblerreplays@gmail.com
Jackie Fish: jackiefishhh@gmail.com
WarriorOfSparta: warriorofsparta1984@outlook.com

Warning: For the Replays to work, it's important to not move any units in the deployment phase. All parties has to click play right away, THEN position the armies. If you don't, then the replay won't work.

​~Wille

[LaggyWolf]

I was thinking the Battle of Grunwald would be nice. We have Lithuania, Poland, Teutonic and Pomerania, so it's possible to do that. They also have some interesting drawings of army positions, although I apologize in advance for my lack of knowledge of this battle. We're probably going to slaughter some historical facts, not just men.

I'm open to other suggestions.

~Wille

Sounds fun! When are you arranging this? (Time / Timezone?)

[lion8000]

The battle of Adrianople 1205.

[Kjertesvein]

Me and Frozen just did it. I've sent it to Alex, Overkill and Pixie. Hopefully one of them will use it.

If anyone else wants to have a go, suggest another one and join in.

~Wille

[LaggyWolf]

I'm getting an error when trying to add you? Search my username (LaggyWolf)

[Kjertesvein]

I added you.

​~Wille

[simmo576]

I would be very keen to join in on this. Up for Agincourt, or Battle of Crecy could be good or Bouvines. Maybe Gallipoli or Siege of Calais. (English vs France theme going on). Battle of Poitiers?
Or crusade battle could be sweet, mainly sieges I guess, Acre, Jerusalem, Damascus, Antioch, Kerak would all be good.

Basically I am game for anything! And willing to do some research on battles before doing them to get things right (outcome aside ofc)

[Ciruelo]

I propose the battle of Meung sur Loire:

Map: Riverfort

Attacker: France (Joan of Arc's)
Defender: England

One of the most epic battles of the Joan of Arc's campaign of the Loire.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Meung-sur-Loire

[Kjertesvein]

@Simmo576
Welcome.

At the moment, I'm a little bit hesitant to go with England, seeing as Longbows have ~40 seconds cooldown on their bows, which would make Agincourt a slaughter fest.

@ciruelo
That sounds awesome. Unfortunately, me and Frozen tried the Riverfort a couple of times, but the replays didn't work. We have no idea why at the moment, but we probably did something wrong. :S On the other hand, standard battles work well.

~Wille

[simmo576]

Hey mate.

40 sec cooldown? wow not noticed that will have a look. That is bad seeing as they should (historically) be able to fire 10-12 shots per min.

With regard to your replay not working, did it CDT when you tried to view? If so it is because a player/players moved their troops in the deployment phase before starting the match. For replays to work with the mod you have to start then deploy. Bit of a pain but heyho.

Steam name is Dangarus if you wanna add me for matches

[KAM 2150]

Hey mate.

40 sec cooldown? wow not noticed that will have a look. That is bad seeing as they should (historically) be able to fire 10-12 shots per min.

10-12 would tire you in few seconds and your accuracy would be absolute crap, plus you would be out of arrows after 6-7 minutes of shooting. Heavy warbows take a lot of effort to draw and that fire rate would be just pointless to achieve on the field (note, it is possible, just dumb thing to do). Also if archers are using volleys, then they fire rate goes down even more. Although current fire rate is way to low on pretty much all ranged troops.

[Kjertesvein]

@LaggyWolf

Sorry, I missed your post.

This is more personal, it's not official or anything like that. Just talk to me on Steam and we'll figure it out. It's that simple. I'll take care of the emails and all that.

With regard to your replay not working, did it CDT when you tried to view? If so it is because a player/players moved their troops in the deployment phase before starting the match. For replays to work with the mod you have to start then deploy. Bit of a pain but heyho.

Steam name is Dangarus if you wanna add me for matches

Cool. You're added.

Yeah thanks for the advice. We tried to do that twice, not moving anything, but unfortunately it didn't work. I'll try to ask Jackie Fish when he comes back next week how he and Pixie managed to get the Riverfort to work and if they faced any challenges. For the moment we'll settle with native custom Battles I guess.

~Wille

[simmo576]

@Kjertesvein
Yeah I have had some replays not work when we didn't move anything. Well I thought we didn't, someone may have I guess?! I think placing deployables breaks the replay as well. Not sure if moving the camera effects it?

@KAM2150
Not to get into a debate about how the English used their Longbowmen but.......

Say 1000 Longbowmen fire at Knights charging them from 250yards. Takes the knights 40sec-1min's (ish) to reach the archers (longer if on foot). Archers have fired 10ish shot each in that time, each volley getting deadlier as the range decreases. That is potentially 10000 arrows hitting the knights. That is not a dumb or pointless thing to do (nor is it unacheivable). And the archers would still have arrows left to fire.
Volley fire is not about accuracy it is more about volume and rate of fire. If you kill all the enemy in a couple of minutes, or at least devastate their ranks so you can mop up then it doesn't matter that you are knackered or have run out of ammo.
The longbowmen were highly trained, strong and skilled archers and there is plenty of evidence that supports them being able to sustain good rates of accurate volley fire.
This is how the English used their longbows to win battles. (didn't always work though!)

But game wise, having 10-12 volleys per min could be OP.

And I agree the fire rate for all ranged (apart from xbows) is too low.

Back to the topic: I would love to do a historical campaign style playthrough. So pick a war (ie 7th Crusade or Ottoman/hungarian war) and then play through the major battles and Sieges.

[You_Guess_Who]

This is why the game have "Barrage" ability. I know most don't like activated abilities, but this one is grounded in reality. Something like WW1 British infantrymen Mad Minute using Lee Enfield. Just make longbowmen have barrage ability to crank their ROF up to 10 shots/min for several seconds, but lower their accuracy. When the ability expires, they'll get a fatigue penalty.

[Slytacular]

Kjertesvein, add me on Steam.

slytacular

I'll be up for a game!