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**AqD** · April 20, 2014, 06:44 PM

Nothing. Rarely meet them in real life, although the station is very close to where I live.

BTW in Pakistan (the only foreign country I visited) they have police guarding McDonald's, Malls and there are rifle-armed police squad at crossroads. I'd give them 8 by their equipment!

**Vaðarholmr** · April 20, 2014, 06:48 PM

Here they don't carry guns at all.

**lolIsuck** · April 20, 2014, 07:02 PM

Haha, Ajax got absolutely destroyed by PEC Zwolle in the the cup final, that was a great night. Losing 5-1 from the underdog, a pure disgrace for the team that will become champion for the fourth time in a row.

Originally Posted by Påsan

I'd certainly read that

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How do you guys feel about the police in your respective life situations?

From a scale to 1: "

tha police" to a 10: "The best men and women we have to offer!"

Probably a 6,5, they're decent but there's a lot of room for improvement. It's focused way too much on reaching their fine quota and they waste manpower on useless things as giving speeding tickets to people that drive 7km too fast on a 50km road... Overall the law and police are very loose though, a lot of things that are actually illegal aren't actively checked and most policemen/women are reasonable enough to give you a warning first or order you to to walk home when you don't have light on your bike at night.

**Spartan999** · April 20, 2014, 07:05 PM

6-7 local wise. 1-2 if you mean all around (you know outside locally)

**Påsan** · April 20, 2014, 07:22 PM

Low opinion on police all around then

Well reason I bring it up is because I'm sort of in a bit of a student burnout right now. I'm at the last month of my degree and two more years for a master does not seem very tempting. So I'm considering "

it" and apply for the police academy instead. The average successful applicant is about my age so It's k.

I've worked within security since I was 18, that, combined with a completed bachelors and a good enough physical condition would give me a good chance of making the selection process.

Oh and I'm with Vatter. I've always trusted the police, they are around a 8 for me.

But for people that havent posted yet, keep the ratings coming though

**~~DarthShizNit~~** · April 20, 2014, 07:39 PM

My opinion of cops:

Spoiler for Censor Bypass:

Now if police were more like Dredd...

**The Despondent Mind** · April 20, 2014, 07:41 PM

I noticed that people complain about the police all the time and everywhere. Honestly sometimes I wonder are people to whiny or we as a society just can't handle law.

**Niles Crane** · April 20, 2014, 08:23 PM

I have never had any trouble with the police and I honestly think a lot of the time people who claim police brutality are either exaggerating or they were physically provoking the officer. Seen that sort of thing happen many times at university protests.

**G-Megas-Doux** · April 20, 2014, 08:45 PM

Originally Posted by The Despondent Mind

I noticed that people complain about the police all the time and everywhere. Honestly sometimes I wonder are people to whiny or we as a society just can't handle law.

I have an uncle in the police force he is a nice guy, I would say he is trustworthy but that does not mean that I would automatically trust the police. For example here in the UK there have been quite a few cases of corruption within the police forces up and down the land. In the region where I live the head guy who ran the force is facing strong allegations of corruption. So I think it is a fair thing to view the police as an organisation like any other where those who hold the job have the potential to either get things wrong or try and make things easy on themselves as such this can be something you could experience negative consequences with.

**Lord Oda Nobunaga** · April 20, 2014, 09:58 PM

the police no justice no peace!

**G-Megas-Doux** · April 20, 2014, 10:47 PM

Originally Posted by Lord Oda Nobunaga

the police no justice no peace!

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**PikeStance** · April 20, 2014, 10:47 PM

I honestly do not know how to rate the Police in China.
The Chinese drive atrociously and the police seems very nonchalant about enforcement.
The bus driver one day did get a ticket for making an illegal left turn. I think the sign was new though (maybe it was a new toy and wanted to play around by actually writing moving violations).
There is little serious crime, but I don't think that is the result of "good" police work or even a police presence. The more or less blend into the scenery. Occasionally, I see car or van filled with uniforms. Sometimes the lights are flashing; for what reason you can guess as good as me. What I have been told is that there is a an informal police that sort of keep an eye on people. If there is a problem, the Police go straight to them. They do have "rent-a-cops" here. My favorite is the ones that wear US Army surplus uniforms complete with a 101st Airborne patch...LOL

When I live in Shanghai.. the happy ending massage places and whorehouses would occasionally be raided (they were closed). The police pick and choose when to enforce illegal activity. I would not be surprise if this is done in collusion with the owners similar to the way the game works with illegal immigrant workers in the US.

Conclusion:
Everyone seems to behave in- line. There is little criminal activity (though they have a tv program where they show sting activity). However, they pick and choose when to enforce the laws.
Traffic laws are large ignore by ALL. In Beijing everyone drives like they are crack, in Shanghai like they are quaaludes, and people Changchun drive slightly better (but still nutty) but they get in more wrecks. I think I have to give them a "5" They are more like bureaucrats than law enforcers.

**G-Megas-Doux** · April 20, 2014, 10:55 PM

Originally Posted by PikeStance

Traffic laws are large ignore by ALL. In Beijing everyone drives like they are crack, in Shanghai like they are quaaludes, and people Changchun drive slightly better (but still nutty) but they get in more wrecks. I think I have to give them a "5" They are more like bureaucrats than law enforcers.

In the UK the traffic laws are those that the police enforce the most as they are used as revenue making devices. Oh you were speeding fine, parked in the wrong place fine, ran a red light fine. There are a lot of offences in the book and much manpower and resources are applied to monitoring and enforcing road laws. Much is under the guise of road safety which I accept is important. No one wants drink drivers. The only thing is that so much effort is expended on road offences that it feels that actual violent crime gets little consideration when compared.

**Lord Oda Nobunaga** · April 20, 2014, 11:14 PM

In Colombia traffic laws are horrible and theft is enforced horribly. But serious crimes are hard to do with gun control and whenever there are soldiers everywhere. Any large crime will usually be committed by professionals or cut throats with knives. At worst it is mugging and theft though unless politicians are in town and the Mexicans on motorcycles roll out.

**G-Megas-Doux** · April 20, 2014, 11:21 PM

Originally Posted by Lord Oda Nobunaga

In Colombia traffic laws are horrible and theft is enforced horribly. But serious crimes are hard to do with gun control and whenever there are soldiers everywhere. Any large crime will usually be committed by professionals or cut throats with knives. At worst it is mugging and theft though unless politicians are in town and the Mexicans on motorcycles roll out.

Chris Ryan ex SAS guy who was the one that got away in Bravo 2 Zero did a TV series for Sky about the worlds most elite police forces. He goes and interviews them whilst training with them and going out on missions to observe, did an episode on the Columbian police who battle the drug lords.

I watched this and turned to my friend saying that they are not a police force they are a special forces unit for jungle warfare on secondment from the army. He agreed with me. These guys were in full Green Khakis with war paint and assault rifles being air dropped into the Jungle by helicopter and using full military tactics and kit.

**PikeStance** · April 20, 2014, 11:31 PM

Originally Posted by G-Megas-Doux

In the UK the traffic laws are those that the police enforce the most as they are used as revenue making devices. Oh you were speeding fine, parked in the wrong place fine, ran a red light fine. There are a lot of offences in the book and much manpower and resources are applied to monitoring and enforcing road laws. Much is under the guise of road safety which I accept is important. No one wants drink drivers. The only thing is that so much effort is expended on road offences that it feels that actual violent crime gets little consideration when compared.

The United States is no different.

The other day I was in a car a Chinese woman and she made a left turn. In the US and in most countries I have lived in it is wise to wait to the oncoming traffic passes and you safely cross when it is clear. This is not so here. Most left turn drivers will race across; some would even head straight at oncoming traffic to get to a point of turning quicker. The only problem I had is if someone were to decide not to let her go I would be the first one hit. LOL. I think it is so common that people simply move out slowly expecting some fool to force his way in a left turn. The Chinese have NO misgivings about cutting off traffic to get where they want to go. Everyone uses their horns to.... but no one pays any attention to them.

When I told her in the US she would had received a ticket if not hit (People in the US will try to intimidate you by speeding up to make you think they will hit you, but some are to dumb to judge how far to take it without hitting you). She laughed and said; "This is China, this is the way we drive!" What can you do but smile to that!

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**High Fist** · April 21, 2014, 07:45 AM

Police in Ireland are called Guards (or Gardaí if you want). You wouldn't see that many of them about tbh, and they seem sound enough - ish. You mostly see them working on nights out, when they can get sick and tired of drunk people and have somewhat short tempers.

You'd hear stories of them being proper dickheads though, thinking they're above normal people. Plus there's the wee bits of corruption and all that. Meanta be a good job though, like most jobs in the civil sector. I'd rate them about 3-5. They help sometimes.

**Hydrazine** · April 21, 2014, 09:07 AM

Good afternoo- holycrap, it is already 4 pm. Oh well, slept after a night shift, then rehoused my meanest and nastiest spider into a new terrarium. I'd call it a productive day.