A trouble with Roman formations

[Biges]

Hi,

I doubt this is an efficient way for Romans to win:



I'm not an expert, but I believe typical roman tactics was just to have a straigh line and concentrate on breaking the center of enemy line. But usuually they are just disorganised and attack flankt instead of center. They especially like to attack carthagian elephants. I had to turn off fatigue, because it was too easy to crush them, when they reach my line tired.

I think that formation changes should concentrace on making the enemy able to form a line. I even don't play bridge battles anyomore, because AI is unable to cross the bridge. Or have serious problems with it. Even good old MTW was better, because AI just usually march and attack. And defending AI chooses the highest point (or moves, when players tries to get to a higher point).

One more thing: This happend when I installed Beta Vassal 4:



The image shows the second turn.

On the other hand:

Thanks for not adding more cities on the map, I'd hate it to become a siege hell

And version 7 seems to be much faster (with huge units), no such slowdowns as in version 6.

Good work

[Ahlerich]

lol the roman general seems to lead his first battle there, lol
either that or he has a drinking problem

[Lusted]

Well i personally love the manipular formation Darth gave the romans, it makes them very hard to flank.

[Ahlerich]

i dont know if they are still moving and not in final position ok...otherwise you can overrun the closes ones befor the furthes away enemy even is in fighting range. also the few first units of the romans will be intimidated by the numbers of the chartagians who are gatherd on one pile, no? havent fought the romans in field battles often so far though

[DARTH VADER]

Well I am certain that generally Romans behave much more historically and more importantly effectively with these formations. Cannot control all battles though. If AI general has a much weaker army and is forced to play it may do a strange maneuver move.

As for the vassal_beta...it is smthg that should happens as it is a trick to create the vassal. Never mind that...there is no real roman civil war but the game thinks there is. The messages are not important. The vassal_beta mode should be improved with next patch.