Except that there is the right to freedom of expression, which I am sure covers kissing in front of people.
Except that there is the right to freedom of expression, which I am sure covers kissing in front of people.
Under the patronage of Rhah and brother of eventhorizen.
I would say, that of course, you can express yourself meaningfully however you want, yet you see, right doesn't imply necessity.
And obviously, the meaning of a kiss is intended for one person only. Not occasional audiences.
In that case I ask you to cease all disrespectful behaviour. This would include saying things which people might find disrespectful on a forum. Hey presto, you won't do it, right? There are degrees of disrespect; my kissing a man has no actual effect on anyone other than the man. I won't do it in a religious institution, under normal circumstances, or in a house of someone who would not like it (unless drunk). But in the street or other public throughfare?
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There are superceeding elements. You may find though that:
1) I always respect form.
2) I have only one field of discussion which is found disrespectful by a certain group, yet again, the fact that promoting truth is more important than not hurting the feelings of people, I find enough to keep the present behaviour.
What exactly is the higher purpose of imposing one's sexuality on others? Both in the open, or close of a house.
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I am not saying that it does, and I am not saying its necessary either, just pointing out that its legal, whether people agree with it or not.
Not always, often its the opposite in the case of young females who have had to much to drink.And obviously, the meaning of a kiss is intended for one person only. Not occasional audiences.
Under the patronage of Rhah and brother of eventhorizen.
In the first instance, I would argue that this was untrue; in the second, it appears that respect is now only relevant when it stops people doing things you don't want them to do; respect is highly subjective it appears.
"Imposting one's sexuality on others" would be rape. Its not imposition to do something that has no effect on others.What exactly is the higher purpose of imposing one's sexuality on others? Both in the open, or close of a house.
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You will then obviously point us to the specific instances. The purpose of respect besides, you will notice, is exactly stopping to do in public, what others don't want them to do in public.
An argumentum ad hominem besides, in any case, go on.
Quite the opposite. Imposing knowledge of something which I might dislike on me, is imposing.
Except that in this instance it is an accurate assessment; you seem to be saying its alright to be disrespectful (which you acknowledge you do) when its in pursuit of truth, something you determine arbitrarily.
In that case none can ever do anything, simply because it may offend another by imposing knowledge on them; we should not teach evolution because it imposes the knowledge that we teach it on creationists.Quite the opposite. Imposing knowledge of something which I might dislike on me, is imposing.
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Exactly, sometimes, disrespect is the least of evils. I determine arbitrarily my goals because I am a free-thinking individual. You will notice that I have asked you what is the higher goal of kissing in public.
Contesting a scientific or philosophical outlook is made in the name of science and truth, hence it has a higher goal.
A higher goal determined by a valueladen system; were I a nihilist, I'd say you were being arbitrary again. Actually, I still will; why is philosophy a higher goal than pursuit of love?
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Because (romantic) love causes advantage to less people than knowledge.
Define advantage? Does not romantic love provide benefit for the people, then for the people they know due to the happiness of the original pair, and so on? Whereas knowledge of the minutiae of quantum physics, or the cause of the beginning of the universe... how is that of actual benefit?
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No chain-definitioning, please. :wink:
Romantic love gives advantages to 2 people. To be generous, let's say all their friends have an advantage as well, and state that 400 people receive an advantage.
A single advancement in knowledge, benefits all humanity.
How so? I repeat with the examples of say, quantum physics. Or the causation of the origin of the universe. How do those benefit all humanity? Because it is enriched? But is happiness not enriching it also?
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Because then intruments become available. Obviously, how someone uses tools is up to him.
And what instruments become available from knowing how the universe's cause was caused? What instrument of benefit to mankind do we get when we understand quantum physics?
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Quantum physics has given you lasers (for therapy, distance-measuring, etc.), photovoltaic panels (clean energy) etc.
Knowing the origins of the universe, besides being fun, gives you an idea of why and how you are here, which is beneficial.
But we do not need to know the origins of the universe to theorise why we are here, and knowing the origins would not help us answer it any more clearly; and lasers predate quantum physics, I believe.
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