Cause tomorrow is a brand-new day
And tomorrow you'll be on your way
Don't give a damn about what other people say
Because tomorrow is a brand-new day
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Japan never retaliated? Umm You do realize they did militarily against the US for the US embargo efforts to stop/halt /reverse the Japanese invasion of China. They also of there own accord allied themselves with Germany in a global total war. I not sure of what point you are making on Japan. Japan's governemt started war over non military policies of the US.Finally, something we agree on.
But then why did they retaliate?
Japan never retaliated, Vietnam never retaliated but when they get bombed they retaliate?
Nice picture show and again you post w/o context. An 'I don't picture'. What exactly does that mean? In what context? Have you ever actually you know read an academic paper. The tricky bit is you have to source things . That so somebody can read or see what your source is. Or you can try minimize your or fail to provide sources and than your paper or book will be called BS... What we have here is BS picture posting. Unless you provide me the links.
IN PATROCINIVM SVB Dromikaites
'One day when I fly with my hands - up down the sky, like a bird'
But if the cause be not good, the king himself hath a heavy reckoning to make, when all those legs and arms and heads, chopped off in battle, shall join together at the latter day and cry all 'We died at such a place; some swearing, some crying for surgeon, some upon their wives left poor behind them, some upon the debts they owe, some upon their children rawly left.
Hyperides of Athens: We know, replied he, that Antipater is good, but we (the Demos of Athens) have no need of a master at present, even a good one.
And here we go again......
No, what I'm trying to do is give the people it has hurt justice! And no, it should never be put to a higher moral standard. As I've mentioned again and again..... why is it okay to punish weak nations but never okay to punish the big ones? Because they've got money? They've got power?
If we were to compare the same with people then it should be okay for a rich man to kill people because he is rich and powerful.
If you want, you can make threads about it but for me, they already paid for those war crimes.
"By 1945, the Kwantung Army consisted of a mere 713,000 personnel, divided into 31 infantry divisions, nine infantry brigades, two tank brigades, and one special purpose brigade. It also possessed 1,155 light tanks, 5,360 guns, and 1,800 aircraft."
That meets your definition of a weak nation?
Did they? There are still lawsuits going to this dayIf you want, you can make threads about it but for me, they already paid for those war crimes.
https://asia.nikkei.com/Opinion/Nikk...uth-Korea-ties
Your premise is quite false. The statements you list are already accepted for not being OK. They were demonized for those acts quite a lot. The same can not be said for USA and it's use of nuclear bombs. So, its only natural that this subject keeps coming up. The opening poster has every right to start a thread with a preconceived conclusion. We all do. However, your post comes across as more prejudiced than the opening post.
The Armenian Issuehttp://www.twcenter.net/forums/group.php?groupid=1930
GTA 6 Thread
https://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?819300-GTA-6-Reveal-Trailer
"We're nice mainly because we're rich and comfortable."
And you have failed to respond when confronted with other nations Great and Small that are not punished for various bad - odious actions. You labor under the delusion the US is alone to avoiding consequences. Why could Stalin let the red army rape a pillage on its way through Eastern Europe and Germany, seize land and equipment, impose governments stand by why the Polish home army died, send thousands of civilians off to die in gulags? How come Britain is never punished for not try to stop the Bengal Famine? Why were no trials of any of their generals or leaders? Because they and the US won the war - period, and they were all three of them at the point in time 1945/6 the strongest nation on earth. You may not like that fact but is more or less how the world works and has for a very long time. Why could Sparta fight a war for the freedom of the Greeks even why holding tens of thousands of Greeks as helots (perpetual slaves) and hand Ionia back over to Persia. Because it was powerful and won its war in 403 BC.No, what I'm trying to do is give the people it has hurt justice! And no, it should never be put to a higher moral standard. As I've mentioned again and again..... why is it okay to punish weak nations but never okay to punish the big ones? Because they've got money? They've got power?
Also another charge you do keep making is odd - that the US is built on stolen land. Which is sort of silly point to make without demanding the dissolution of all countries in North and South a America and Australia, and New Zealand, freeing Tibet, removing most dissolving Israel and removing most Jews, giving Germany back its part of Prussia it occupies, moving Poland, ejecting Russia from Finnish lands... That's just a quick list of recent theft and all the European theft from First Nations. But if I thought you respond credibly I'm sure I could find more examples over the centuries from 1492 to now. Essentially this charge is pointless unless you plan to have a lot people pulling up tent stakes and move people all over the world. Although I suppose that would be a boon for map illustrators assuming they were not refugees. [Edit I feel free to reply to all your posts so far as just variations on the same theme and so consider them one]
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Given the state of the German armed forces the UK could win handily. You do realize just how tiny German ammunition stocks are?If you want to break german dignity, you better try to fight us again, this time without allies.
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IN PATROCINIVM SVB Dromikaites
'One day when I fly with my hands - up down the sky, like a bird'
But if the cause be not good, the king himself hath a heavy reckoning to make, when all those legs and arms and heads, chopped off in battle, shall join together at the latter day and cry all 'We died at such a place; some swearing, some crying for surgeon, some upon their wives left poor behind them, some upon the debts they owe, some upon their children rawly left.
Hyperides of Athens: We know, replied he, that Antipater is good, but we (the Demos of Athens) have no need of a master at present, even a good one.
The ultranationalist view of americans:
"Obama’s shameful apology tour lands in Hiroshima" by John Bolton
https://nypost.com/2016/05/26/obamas...-in-hiroshima/
The japanese also have a strong opinion:
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And yet Abe is the PM, for quite some time now.The japanese also have a strong opinion:
So you are saying I can't find blind nationalism in most countries?Going on a monologue of how great America is, totally avoiding the issue of the bombing of Hiroshima.
In any case you still have not defined a better way to end the war quickly and and in a way the Imperial army and navy would accept absolutely.
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IN PATROCINIVM SVB Dromikaites
'One day when I fly with my hands - up down the sky, like a bird'
But if the cause be not good, the king himself hath a heavy reckoning to make, when all those legs and arms and heads, chopped off in battle, shall join together at the latter day and cry all 'We died at such a place; some swearing, some crying for surgeon, some upon their wives left poor behind them, some upon the debts they owe, some upon their children rawly left.
Hyperides of Athens: We know, replied he, that Antipater is good, but we (the Demos of Athens) have no need of a master at present, even a good one.
Vs everyone else as well. I'm sorry i missed the world trial of China or the USSR for Mao or Stalin.America is the worst, bacause they did extreme crimes against humanity, and always got away with it. Victor's privilege.
IN PATROCINIVM SVB Dromikaites
'One day when I fly with my hands - up down the sky, like a bird'
But if the cause be not good, the king himself hath a heavy reckoning to make, when all those legs and arms and heads, chopped off in battle, shall join together at the latter day and cry all 'We died at such a place; some swearing, some crying for surgeon, some upon their wives left poor behind them, some upon the debts they owe, some upon their children rawly left.
Hyperides of Athens: We know, replied he, that Antipater is good, but we (the Demos of Athens) have no need of a master at present, even a good one.
There is an enormous difference between famine in your own country, and indiscriminately bombing civilians of other nation. The latter is forbidden in international war.
It sounds to me as if you agree that other nations conducted genocides and the victors got away with it.
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In this context its useful to point out neither Japan nor the USSR had ratified the Geneva convention while WW2 was on. Also its actions had certainly violated the Hague Convention of 1907. If your enemy is not playing by the rules its hard to expect the same from the other side.There is an enormous difference between famine in your own country, and indiscriminately bombing civilians of other nation. The latter is forbidden in international war.
IN PATROCINIVM SVB Dromikaites
'One day when I fly with my hands - up down the sky, like a bird'
But if the cause be not good, the king himself hath a heavy reckoning to make, when all those legs and arms and heads, chopped off in battle, shall join together at the latter day and cry all 'We died at such a place; some swearing, some crying for surgeon, some upon their wives left poor behind them, some upon the debts they owe, some upon their children rawly left.
Hyperides of Athens: We know, replied he, that Antipater is good, but we (the Demos of Athens) have no need of a master at present, even a good one.
What is the argument? Because war crimes are prevalent, they should not be put on trial? Do you believe the main fault of the axis was to lose the war?
Germany formally recognized the Herero genocide and paid tribute.
Where is your recognition of Hamburg and Dresden?
Ah, the claim of equity. Wrong, because the japanese have not made a offense like Hiroshima and Nagasaki toward the US.
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There are what some 6 million (mid estimate) of civilians from the GEACPS who might beg to differ if they were not been killed by Japan. You got to like them comfort women as well.Ah, the claim of equity. Wrong, because the japanese have not made a offense like Hiroshima and Nagasaki to the US.
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IN PATROCINIVM SVB Dromikaites
'One day when I fly with my hands - up down the sky, like a bird'
But if the cause be not good, the king himself hath a heavy reckoning to make, when all those legs and arms and heads, chopped off in battle, shall join together at the latter day and cry all 'We died at such a place; some swearing, some crying for surgeon, some upon their wives left poor behind them, some upon the debts they owe, some upon their children rawly left.
Hyperides of Athens: We know, replied he, that Antipater is good, but we (the Demos of Athens) have no need of a master at present, even a good one.
When you say sorry for 600,000 germans burned to a crisp, i'll pay due respect for the 40,000 killed in the Blitz.
HATE SPEECH ISN'T REAL