the arabs hate the jews because of corrupt arab politico's manipulating the population.
the arabs hate the jews because of corrupt arab politico's manipulating the population.
sure there are historical reasons and political motivations for the attitude to israel, but if imans didnt bring out the "hail and brimstone" and talked more about reconciliation ( i know some do) less muslims would be pressured to hate jews, and wouldnt feel they were being "unislamic" not to.
exactly--- its the leaders of the arab world leading the population into destruction.
Arab-Jew hate is a two way street. Trying to pin exclusive blame on one side makes you just as intolerant and closed-minded as the very Arabs you so despise.
I'm getting tired of the brainless "The muslims are the new Jews of Europe" bollocks. The reasons for anti-Muslim, anti-Arab and anti-immigrationist attitudes, the circumstances, the tensions within society, are of a completely different nature. The comparison is simply evoced as a not-so discreetly disguised Nazi/Hitler card.
The common culture of a tribe is a sign of its inner cohesion. But tribes are vanishing from the modern world, as are all forms of traditional society. Customs, practices, festivals, rituals and beliefs have acquired a flut and half-hearted quality which reflects our nomadic and rootless existence, predicated as we are on the global air-waves.
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So far I've noticed one person (eranshahr) make that comparison on this thread. So it seems you get tired quite easily.
...Is anti-Semitism on the Rise in Europe?
so the article in the OP shows one example of a norrow minded racist **** attacking a jewish guy and therefore anti-scematism is on the rise in the UK...utter utter bollocks
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Because Jewishness is based on blood, not geography. It's one thing to say all Palestinians have shown themselves undeserving of life, it is quite another to say ALL arabs are filthy.
They persecuted Jews long before modern Israel was even an idea. They hate Jews for far older, less concrete reasons. At lot of it has to do with the fact that the Jews are/were the first of God's children, and in their soul, all others who worship the Jewish God, know the Jews have the best claim on knowing who God really is and what he wants. Christians and Muslims are just interlopers.
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The common culture of a tribe is a sign of its inner cohesion. But tribes are vanishing from the modern world, as are all forms of traditional society. Customs, practices, festivals, rituals and beliefs have acquired a flut and half-hearted quality which reflects our nomadic and rootless existence, predicated as we are on the global air-waves.
ROGER SCRUTON, Modern Culture
Hey, I haven't been around the pit in a while so I stand corrected if there have been lots of Muslim = Jew threads. I know I even made one, albeit it was a while ago and also was making a different point altogether.
Besides, idiocy is in the eyes of the beholder.
You don't need to be a regular in the pit, it is a common argument in the conversation surrounding the discussion on Muslim-Native tensions, ME immigration, and racism in Europe.
Yeah yeah, everything is relative and all that.Besides, idiocy is in the eyes of the beholder.
The common culture of a tribe is a sign of its inner cohesion. But tribes are vanishing from the modern world, as are all forms of traditional society. Customs, practices, festivals, rituals and beliefs have acquired a flut and half-hearted quality which reflects our nomadic and rootless existence, predicated as we are on the global air-waves.
ROGER SCRUTON, Modern Culture
Its more like Semites include Arabs and Jews.Muslim = Jew threads
And both Muslims and Jews that are religious worship the same Abrahamic God.
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no actually the god of Islam is an old moon god "allah" and the god of the jews is an old desert god "yahweh"
Hey am I becoming the scape-goat of hatred now?
Muslims and jews were pretty good with each other during historical times, even better than Christians and jews.
Israel go independence and arabs attacks. Still people weren't hating each ohter.
when the 1967 war ended then they started to hate each other. interviews with Israelis and arabs has been done in Aljazeera, both are blaming 1967 as a start of hatred, and both hopes they are going to get along in the future.
But all muslims did not, it was more arabs and israelis. I mean, i seriously doubt turks, Iranians and Malaysians hates Jews. atleast most of them doesn't.
Islam, christianity, Judaism and Zoroastrianism have all the same god, with different names
Allah, God, god, Ahura Mazda.
Independence, freedom, Aryan republic!
Socialism, Feminism, Anti-Rascism!
It is the structures of Capitalism who make the class, race and gender struggles neccesary. I personally refuse to accept that I will have approximately 17% less money each month because I am Middle Eastern, I refuse to accept that if a girl is raped the rapist blames it on her clothing, and I refuse to accept that the working class is the slave of the modern society- thats why I believe in Socialism, thats why call myself a Feminist and thats why I am Anti-rascist.
well if your a monotheist there is only god with many names :O-- even the hindu are monotheists in my eyes, so are animists.
I actually think there are no polyethist religions left, in hinduism " Brahman" is the true god, or atleast the highest god.
Religion is not my thing, It has harmed many people in the world. And even me myself. Islam, or a way of Islam has grabbed my country, and killed many in god's name. Still i know that they are just using Islam as a pretext, But if there were no religions, they would never trick the people with words nobody understand.
Independence, freedom, Aryan republic!
Socialism, Feminism, Anti-Rascism!
It is the structures of Capitalism who make the class, race and gender struggles neccesary. I personally refuse to accept that I will have approximately 17% less money each month because I am Middle Eastern, I refuse to accept that if a girl is raped the rapist blames it on her clothing, and I refuse to accept that the working class is the slave of the modern society- thats why I believe in Socialism, thats why call myself a Feminist and thats why I am Anti-rascist.
yes eran they would trick people because people beg to be tricked...
thats why so many "tricks" have been noble attempts at peace, that failed because they were applied to rabid animals, who only sought to fulfill themselves in this world rather than seeking the wisdom of the next.