Bible/Torah said children must be stoned

[Kiki52]

The Old Testament/Torah said that children who dishonor their parents should be stoned. Moses said after he came down from Mt. Sinai this, if they disobey the 5th commandment.

Then later in the New Testament, Jesus said that the same thing. Jesus said you should stone children who dishonor their parents.
Jesus said this in Matthew I think when Jesus was talking with the Jewish Pharisees, he told them they were bad because the Pharisees did not stone children who dishonored their parents as commanded by Moses. Rather, Jesus said that the Pharisees let the children dishonor their parents without punishment if the Pharisees got some sort of personal benefit from it.
So Jesus remarked that they made the "laws of God void" or something to that manner.

What do you think about this? Many people love the Bible and Jesus, but I know of very few who choose to look into the Bible and display this about either the Jewish laws or Jesus' words upfront to people. It is as if believers choose to 'cover up' these things to me, and make Jesus out as if he was this very pacifist good kind person. Why not put it at the forefront that Jesus told parents they should bring their children to a court for disobeying them and get them stoned by the community, that is the truth of what the Bible says?

I don't know of any country today that parents can bring their child infront of a judge and tell him that their child dishonored them or cursed them, then brought outside then get stoned to death.

What does Islam say will happen to children who dishonor their parents? Does the Quran command that they should be killed as punishment?

[Yosemite]

Theres no such a law in Islam. Just like there shouldn't be adulterer stoning in Islam based on the Quran. But the majority follows the conjectures.

[Thanatos]

Verses, please!

[William the Bastard]

Verses, please!

Who needs verses when you can make a mass generalisation.

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If there are verses then please post them

[jankren]

Verses, please!

And he that curseth his father, or his mother, shall surely be put to death.
(Exodus 21:17 KJV)

For every one that curseth his father or his mother shall be surely put to death: he hath cursed his father or his mother; his blood shall be upon him.
(Leviticus 20:9 KJV)

For God said, 'Honor your father and mother' and 'Anyone who curses his father or mother must be put to death.'
(Matthew 15:4 NIV)

[NaptownKnight]

And he that curseth his father, or his mother, shall surely be put to death.
(Exodus 21:17 KJV)

For every one that curseth his father or his mother shall be surely put to death: he hath cursed his father or his mother; his blood shall be upon him.
(Leviticus 20:9 KJV)

For God said, 'Honor your father and mother' and 'Anyone who curses his father or mother must be put to death.'
(Matthew 15:4 NIV)

This is nothing compared to the Quoran. " Bring death and holy fire to the infidels!"

[Blau&Gruen]

"Bible/Torah said children must be stoned"

Do books talk?

[jankren]

This is nothing compared to the Quoran. " Bring death and holy fire to the infidels!"

Firstly, I only provided verses requested by another member. So please do not feel offended by me.

Secondly, why do you think capital punishment for cursing parents is nothing?

That doesn't seem to make much sense.
Is he saying that you should disobey your parents if they are trying to make you into a priest or what ??

If you are talking about a priest which calls on people to worship Jesus or any other 'partners' beside God then yes your example is accurate.

[God-Emperor of Mankind]

If you are talking about a priest which calls on people to worship Jesus or any other 'partners' beside God then yes your example is accurate.

Well I'm thinking more of all priests, even islamic ones.
Priest=Partner of a god.

[enoch]

Leviticus 20:27

And a man or woman -- when there is in them a familiar spirit, or who [are] wizards -- are certainly put to death; with stones they stone them; their blood [is] on them.'

from the literal translation

[LoZz]

so even the bible promotes smokeing weed.....

[Skyler]

so even the bible promotes smokeing weed.....

That would mean the Dutch are the chosen people instead of the Jewish.

[Kiki52]

Hello Jankren

Do you know what Islam says about children who dishonor their parents? Does it say they should stone them? Also, does the Quran say we should follow the laws of the old testament?

[Yosemite]

Hello Jankren

Do you know what Islam says about children who dishonor their parents? Does it say they should stone them? Also, does the Quran say we should follow the laws of the old testament?

No

No


Why?

No verse in the Quran telling you to do that.

Maybe in some obscure hadith. But they can't be taken as a source for laws, only the Quran can.

[jankren]

Hello Jankren

Do you know what Islam says about children who dishonor their parents? Does it say they should stone them?

There is no command of stoning whatsoever in Al Quran.

And your Lord decreed that you shall not serve except Him, and do good to your parents. When one of them or both of them reach old age, do not say to them a word of disrespect nor raise your voice at them, but say to them a kind saying.
(Al Quran 17:23)

And We instructed the human to be good to his parents. But if they strive to make you set up partners with Me, then do not obey them. To Me are all your destinies, and I will inform you of what you used to do.
(Al Quran 29:8)

Also, does the Quran say we should follow the laws of the old testament?

It only says that the people of Nazareth (Christians) should follow the Gospel while the Jews should follow the Torah. However it does not tell Muslims to follow any other religious book except Al Quran.

Peace,

[God-Emperor of Mankind]

And We instructed the human to be good to his parents. But if they strive to make you set up partners with Me, then do not obey them. To Me are all your destinies, and I will inform you of what you used to do.
(Al Quran 29:8)

That doesn't seem to make much sense.
Is he saying that you should disobey your parents if they are trying to make you into a priest or what ??:hmmm:

[Curtana]

Its good to see the major religions going out on a limb and sticking up for drug misuse.
All children must be stoned. What all the time? There isn't enough ganja on Earth!

[enoch]

That would mean the Dutch are the chosen people instead of the Jewish.

I think you mean the Californians

"Bible/Torah said children must be stoned"

Do books talk?

when you are stoned they might



spam?

[Blau&Gruen]

when you are stoned they might

That's not what I mean. May I need to open an own thread about "what is interpretation"?
I have to think about how this can be formulated so it suites in here.

[enoch]

and it appears you found a formulation you approve of - simple but effective