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    Default Is Yoshimoto Imagawa Gay?

    In samurai warriors 1 and 2, yoshimoto characters is a gay. He wares make-up and look funny like a **** gay. Is it true that yoshimoto is a gay. Or they just joking.

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    Well he had a natural son.Imagawa Ujizane,so i think conclusion can be done based on that fact.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Emperor View Post
    In samurai warriors 1 and 2, yoshimoto characters is a gay. He wares make-up and look funny like a **** gay. Is it true that yoshimoto is a gay. Or they just joking.
    Yoshimoto Imagawa have son Imagawa Ujizane ..like play football(Kemari) ~


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    Default Re: Is Yoshimoto Imagawa Gay?

    Homosexuality was not a problem to samurais, the only problem it could create, was that the samurai could love another man more then his master. There's amovie about that, Taboo.

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    I would say that bisexuality wasn't a problem in those days. It is a reknowed fact that Takeda Shingen had a lot of concubines and some young men as lovers too.

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    Default Re: Is Yoshimoto Imagawa Gay?

    But I heard that Yoshimoto is a gay. I don't if it's true or not. I didn't know that kenshin didn't have a wife. Maybe he is a monk. What about shingen, he is fat and loves young men. Thats diqusting.

    Whats the difference between homosexulity and bisexuality. Can you tell me please and Thank You.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Emperor View Post
    Whats the difference between homosexulity and bisexuality. Can you tell me please and Thank You.
    Homosexual means that the person sleeps with people of the same gender: a man and a man, a woman and a woman.

    Bisexual means that they swing both ways; they would sleep with both men and women.

    Hetherosexual means that the person only sleeps with someone of the opposite gender: a man and a woman.

    Personally, I don't have a problem with either; as long as my hetherosexuality is respected, then I'll respect your sexual preference. The problem I usually have with some homosexuals (and only a very few at that) is that they can't seem to get that you are not gay, has never been gay, and that you will never be gay.
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    what the heck so all of a suddan ur sayign they were a bunch of gay samurais? and liek was mentioned in the post just above mine i dont like likethe gay people who keep not respecting that ur not gay never was never will be gay and peopel who try to make people gay jsut cause theme selvs are gay its like saying Gene simons was gay cause he never got maried... but he had a gf and kids.. ohh but he never was maried so he must of ben gay al lthe gay stuf isenugh latly whats with the gayness beeign popular latly too much gays everywere lol ok im done ranting now
    Last edited by Dermeister; May 19, 2007 at 04:27 AM.

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    Default Re: Is Yoshimoto Imagawa Gay?

    I dont think any of what you(Dermeister, not you Boss, damn to fast!) said is neither understandably written, nor respectfull nor on topic.

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    prolyl not but hey had to let it out and if its not udnerstadable its good that way no 1 gets offended and i get to express how i feel about it its on topics since it was about gay samurais i just dont get what importance the sexuality of samurai has with kikign ass on the feild i dont get why its important since even if theyr gay they have to have kids anny how to keep the family going so yea but im not here to start a fight just felt like expressing how ifelt about the whole topic..

    and what do gay samurais have to do with the mod? are you guys planing to include them in the mod? lol
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    About homosexual/bisexual samurai: you have to judge them in the context of their cultural framework. Judging them under our cultural criteria is just plain wrong; especially if we're judging them under Western Judeo/Christian mores.

    In the culture of that time, it was quite ok for a man to have sexual relationships with other men. In most cases, it was considered to be the ultimate expression of one's bond of friendship. Like someone mentioned in an above post, one of the reasons a homosexual relationship was considered to be a problem was if the samurai publicly loved another man more than he loved his lord.

    Many warrior cultures, the Spartans being the most famous, espoused homosexual relationships as the ultimate form of expressing friendship and love between warriors.
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    Ohh, I get it, bisexuality comes from frienship. So thats I why, I see people haging and touch their ass(you know what I said). So thats why I don't have friends. I am hethrosexual, but even some people are bisexual because the devil tricked them. Is their sexual that describes that doesn't love or want to sleep with any gender. Even some people prefer to sleep with animals, that so disqusting and it bring aids.

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    Ohh, I forget. Kagemusha, we are adults. We are men, it's okay to talk about this, even in a bad way. It's life. You are a man, so there is no need to close this forum, only if someone argued about the topic.

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    Yes and this is not the right place for this kind of discution... No politics, religions ar arguing about sexual preferences here... Your liberty stop where the liberty of the others begin... So let's get back to the samurais

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    Quote Originally Posted by Emperor View Post
    Ohh, I forget. Kagemusha, we are adults. We are men, it's okay to talk about this, even in a bad way. It's life. You are a man, so there is no need to close this forum, only if someone argued about the topic.
    You are all ofcourse allowed to talk as much as you like on this topic as long as it doesnt brake the forum rules.

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    Default Re: Is Yoshimoto Imagawa Gay?

    Quote Originally Posted by Emperor View Post
    Ohh, I get it, bisexuality comes from frienship. So thats I why, I see people haging and touch their ass(you know what I said). So thats why I don't have friends. I am hethrosexual, but even some people are bisexual because the devil tricked them. Is their sexual that describes that doesn't love or want to sleep with any gender. Even some people prefer to sleep with animals, that so disqusting and it bring aids.
    Well, WELL! Hardcore Homophobism usually means that someone is roaring to get out of that stifling closet. Must be hot in there eh?

    Btw, am not gay myself but this is hilarious.
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    I think we are done with this subject.Speculating other forum members sexual orientation was hardly the goal of this thread.Closed.

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    Default Re: Is Yoshimoto Imagawa Gay?

    Quote Originally Posted by big_feef View Post
    About homosexual/bisexual samurai: you have to judge them in the context of their cultural framework. Judging them under our cultural criteria is just plain wrong; especially if we're judging them under Western Judeo/Christian mores.
    In the culture of that time, it was quite ok for a man to have sexual relationships with other men. In most cases, it was considered to be the ultimate expression of one's bond of friendship. Like someone mentioned in an above post, one of the reasons a homosexual relationship was considered to be a problem was if the samurai publicly loved another man more than he loved his lord.
    Many warrior cultures, the Spartans being the most famous, espoused homosexual relationships as the ultimate form of expressing friendship and love between warriors.
    True, and being gay never made a man weaker or less deadly in combat, especially if he loves the man he's fighting for and the one he's fighting next to!
    Last edited by Taneda Santôka; May 19, 2007 at 10:41 AM.

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    could be a trait

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    It's important to remember that there really wasn't any such thing as a "homosexual" back in Sengoku Japan times. Men slept with other men at times, and they might even prefer it to women, but it didn't exclude them from marrying women and having children and the like. It was important to have a family, and I doubt that any man in these times ever completely avoided women. I've never come across anything in all my reading that suggests it ever happened, anyway.

    As for Imagawa Yoshimoto... Well, perhaps, but I doubt any daimyo of the Sengoku period is more infamous for their liasons with the same sex than Oda Nobunaga and his young page Mori Ranmaru...
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