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    Look around you, find yourself a plant. A great big, sometimes irritating leafy thing isn't it? No, wrong, look closer.
    Every leaf, look at the perfection, think how well adapted it is to how it works. Look close enough at the base of the leaf and you see the stomata, tiny little holes. Through each of these holes comes water vapour, yes thats right, the leaves produce steam. The steam fuels a massive water pump, bringing water from the surface to the leaves.

    Look closer, you can see the individual parts, lines dividing the leaf like tiny canyons in the cuticle and uper epidermis. Each of these canyons is lined by millions of cells, each formed from dozens of components. The phospho-lipid bi-layer which rings them alone is formed of billions of sections, and thats without the proteins and glycogen. Each one of these phosopho-lipids is formed of tens of atoms, each one of these of up to several hundred electrons, protons and neutrons. And on and on to the furthest reaches of sceince.

    Is it not a wonder, that each of these atoms found themselves in the same place, were shaped by billions of years to first become single-cells and then all the way to the plant before you, millions of years worth of the marvel of the Earth, evolution.

    Beautiful isn't it?

    Search Nebulae on google image search
    Now tell me that isn't beautiful, a rainbow of colours and hues in a million different shapes and distortions, tell me what you see dosn't fill you with awe, and I'll slap you, then realise that you are infact completly blind.


    You can't argue with that. Whatever way you swing you'll agree that there are some beautiful specimins in humanity, millions of years of sexual selection. And to think that they are just one facet of a universe which a fly would have to look twice at to catch.



    And then those damn theists come along.
    The universe just isn't good enough for them.
    In their ego-filled pride they are not satisfied with the beauty everyone can share, they have to make sure that they are chosen by the universe, that they have to be special.
    Pah
    They don't want the universe to remain an aspect of such small possibility, they don't let it be beautiful, they steal its beauty away with their creator. A universe created for our satisfaction, for our presence only, as a favour from a bland, uninteresting celestial being is not beautiful at all, much like a private sparkly disneyland.
    Not content with that, they place themselves at the universe's center, they whip away the brilliance of evolution, the awe of the development of galaxies and stars. They tear away the wonder of particle chemistry and the genius of biology. They steal it all away. And replace it all with something we are forbidden to see, forbidden to think about, forbidden to comprehend and analyse.
    God
    What a shame.

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    hear hear

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    Huh?

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    work through it - there is a lot worth always keeping in mind in what he said

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    I just don't see the connextion between God and robbing the world of magic, let alone beauty. Or rather I see his connextion, but I don’t see its logical validity.

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    logic is for men with glasses who think game is an allusion to chess

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    Sure thing...

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    sometimes you have to go half zen to make a proper point

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    Yes, rolling my eyes helps me acheive a state of half zen.

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    rolling your eyes makes you more of a buddhist - by the by

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    No, it makes me more of an expressionist.

    After all, what with my realist tenancies, and couple with extremes of emotion and expression, I'm moving towards anti-postmodernist work. Much like the expressionist were moving away from rigors of classical artwork into works with more feeling and such. Actually I think I got my parties muddled up... oh well.

    Wait, this is a discussion on art right? Beauty perhaps? NO? Am I way off topic here ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Falconius View Post
    Actually I think I got my parties muddled up... oh well.
    you are a bit of a muddler - I didn't pull the god is real move by ignoring your statements with a little a la carte taking things out of context, did I?

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    Quote Originally Posted by enoch View Post
    you are a bit of a muddler - I didn't pull the god is real move and take things out of context, did I?
    I dont know anymore. I don't understand what you're saying, let alone what I am. I'm so confused. I think I may be too sick to continue posting...

    Of course that means I'll just post more, oh what wicked webs we weave (absolute
    gibberish)!

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    are you calling me a communist?






    the last person to post always wins, right?

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    It would appear so... Wouldn't it?

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    Aneist,

    I agree. It is the flaw of the religious that they feel that they must be part of something larger. That something better must come next, and in doing so, they fail to fully appreciate what we have now, at this very moment .
    The flow of time is always cruel... its speed seems different for each person, but no one can change it... A thing that does not change with time is a memory of younger days...

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    He who joyfully marches to music rank and file, has already earned my contempt. He has been given a large brain by mistake, since for him the spinal cord would surely suffice. This disgrace to civilization should be done away with at once. Heroism at command, how violently I hate all this, how despicable and ignoble war is; I would rather be torn to shreds than be a part of so base an action. It is my conviction that killing under the cloak of war is nothing but an act of murder.

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    Oh dear God, can you two stop spamming? Is it not possible to stay remotely on topic? Please?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Setarcos Aneist View Post
    Oh dear God, can you two stop spamming? Is it not possible to stay remotely on topic? Please?
    "Oh dear God"? LOL

    But my first (only) point still stands: I don’t see how saying there is a God negates any of the other stuff. It doesn't make sense from my viewpoint.

    Indeed the same could be said about a number of things with no justification. Such as why does everything nee to be scientifically dissected, isn’t the wonder enough? Why must a thing be analyzed to death? But as you point, out it can go the other way as well, such as the complexity and intricacy of biology or whatever.

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    That was beatiful post Silver guard.

    I think that fundamental problem with western religions is that they place humans above the rest. That is why I'm so fascinated with eastern and ancient religions.

    I know this is not an argument or anything but once in a while there comes a post that just deserve some notification, even when I have nothing to add.
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    That is the most beautiful and fascinating counter to the teleological argument I have ever seen, I must admit.

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