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    Default (Moved to Vote)Proposal - Medals reform and fixing.

    Greetings Citizens

    When I proposed the medals system I imagined a system where all members would receive some form of medal for any work they did that was of Benefit to the community and thus would instill the notion that all productive contributions would in some way be recognized and appreciated. There are problems with such a system such as the sheer amount of nominations one would have, thus I decided to make implementation simple and effectively divide the workload between CdC, Curia and Hexagon. What I initially inserted into the Syntagma was primitive because I knew that implementation was not
    a certainty and since then it has been phased into a new constitution and changes throughout have caused some errors. These include –

    The notion that time served is always equivalent to work where someone who worked twice as hard as (A content writer) for three months would receive a lesser award compared to someone who did hardly anything for a year. (Hypothetical example)

    One medal being for 6-12 months and another for “a year” – 12 months = 1 year so that should be fixed and reflect the above point.

    There is still, partly due to my inactivity during the secondary phases of implementation – no – medals for Modders which is something I want to amend now.

    Furthermore, medals are not like ranks, there should be no limit on medals that will reflect the diversity of talent we can find in this community, medals were always intended to be numerous with as many people as possible obtaining some form of Medal, it was meant to be a bridge between Curia and Pleb with anyone being eligible for medals, so in that respect we need medals that members can actually obtain.

    It is on these notes and principles that I open my proposal; which will instill the following –

    • The automatic Time specific medals will be dealt with by the Hexagon Directly.
    • The (in general) contribution medals will be dealt with by the CdC
    • The Medals for exceptional site input will be dealt with by the Curia


    Thus I propose that this medal –

    Moderators MaceGold Silver and Bronze maces awarded for over one years, 6-12 months, and 3-6 months service respectively as a Staff Moderator - see Section 1 Article 5
    To –

    Moderators Mace – The award is divided into three classes. The Bronze Mace is awarded to any member who has served as an official Staff Moderator for over three months. The Silver Mace is awarded to any moderatos who has been promoted to “Senior Moderator” or Served as “Staff Moderator” for 6 months. The “Golden Moderators Mace” is awarded to any Senior Moderator who is deemed to have provided the site with exceptional service for over 6 months in areas of Moderation and Moderation Policy. All the Mace awards are awarded by the Administrative Council.
    Though this version is longer it provides a much fairer representation of people work and what they deserve.

    I propose that this Medal –

    Scribes QuillGold Silver and Bronze quills awarded for over one years, 6-12 months, and 3-6 months service respectively as a Content Staff Officer - see Section 1 Article 5
    Be changed to –

    Scribes Quill – The award is divided into three classes. The Bronze Quill is awarded to any member who has served as an official “Content Staff Member” and has produced over four publications. The Silver Quill is awarded to any “Content Staff Member” who has been promoted to “Content Editor” or Served as “Content Staff Member” and produced over 12 publications. The “Golden Quill” is awarded to any “Head of Content” who is deemed to have provided the site with exceptional service for over 6 months in areas of Content or any Editor who is deemed to have performed exceptional service to the Content Branch for over 6 months. The Gold award is awarded by the “Administrative Council” whereas the Silver and Bronze are awarded by the “Head of Content”

    I propose no changes to the Senatorial Robe as Prothalamos Discussion and CdC vote is a Good representative.

    I also propose the addition of the following medals –

    Modders Hammer – This medal is awarded to any member of the Modding community who is contributing to any Modding Project which is available on Total War Center. Any member can nominate a modder by sending a Private message to a member of the CdC. The medal will be awarded after the candidate has achieved a simple majority of non-abstaining votes.
    Cicero’s Crest – This medal is awarded to any Citizen who has provided exceptional input into areas directly relating to the Curia. Any member who is nominated needs the support of three Citizens and must send an application to the CdC. The candidate will be awarded the medal is he achieves a 2/3 majority of non abstaining CdC votes.
    Member Awards - This category of medals is awarded to every member who wins an award in the TWC Member Awards. The medals will have a year number on it to show when it was awarded. The Medal should also link to the relevant Awards thread. The precise medal is awarded based on the precise nature of the Member Award won. The specific medals will be created by those in charge of the awards at the time and implemented by the Technical staff.
    Modder Awards - This category of medals is awarded to every member who wins an award in the TWC Modder Awards. The medal will have a year number on it to show when it was awarded. The Medal should also link to the relevant Awards thread. The precise medal is awarded based on the precise nature of the Modder Award won. The specific medals will be created by those in charge of the awards at the time and implemented by the Technical staff.
    Scholars Medal – The award is divided into three classes. The Bronze Scholars Medal is awarded to a librarian who has served three or more months inside the Scriptorium. The Silver Scholars Medal is awarded for over nine months of service. The Golden Scholars Medal is awarded to a Content Editor of the Scriptorium for exceptional service to the Content Branch for over 6 months. The Gold award is awarded by the “Administrative Council” whereas the Silver and Bronze are awarded by the “Head of Content”.
    I am open to more Modder orientated medals.
    Last edited by Belisarius; May 19, 2007 at 08:05 AM.
    Well, if I, Belisarius, the Black Prince, and you all agree on something, I really don't think there can be any further discussion.
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    Default Re: Proposal - Medals reform and fixing.

    There could also be special medals for TWC Member and TWC Modder Award winners. Perhaps just a basic design with a number like 07 on top of it to reflect what years people have won awards in?
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    Default Re: Proposal - Medals reform and fixing.

    Sure, but I am not the best person to write these, if you, as an experienced modder write these I will gladly insert them into the proposal.
    Well, if I, Belisarius, the Black Prince, and you all agree on something, I really don't think there can be any further discussion.
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    Default Re: Proposal - Medals reform and fixing.

    Sure, but I am not the best person to write these, if you, as an experienced modder write these I will gladly insert them into the proposal.
    Im pretty bad at writing this kind of thing, but here we go:

    Member Awards This medal is awarded to every member who wins an award in the TWC Member Awards. The medal will have a year number on it to show when it was awarded. (if this is possible, i think it might be from what i've seen at .org) The Medal should also link to the relevant Awards thread.

    Modder Awards This medal is awarded to every member who wins an award in the TWC Modder Awards. The medal will have a year number on it to show when it was awarded. (if this is possible, i think it might be from what i've seen at .org) The Medal should also link to the relevant Awards thread.
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    Default Re: Proposal - Medals reform and fixing.

    Some tweaks and it should work fine.
    Well, if I, Belisarius, the Black Prince, and you all agree on something, I really don't think there can be any further discussion.
    - Simetrical 2009 in reply to Ferrets54

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    When I first started advocating the award system in February of last year, I outlined a long list of awards:

    Quote Originally Posted by Mimirswell View Post
    Awards we could give out:
    Best Skinner: Corona muralis (gold crown with turrets) for first, Corona vallaris (silver crown with pallisades) for second
    Best Mod: Corona obsidionalis (grass crown) for first, Corona civica (gold crown) for second
    Best Map: Phalarae (discs): gold for first, silver for second
    Best Coder: Torques (necklaces): gold for first, silver for second
    Best Formations: Armilla (bracelets): gold for first, silver for second
    Best Modder: Corona triumphalis (crown held over head during triumph) for first, Corona ovalis (crown worn during an ovation) for second.
    Best Modding Team: Corona oleagina (gold crown given to men whose imperator recieved a triumph) for first, Aurum coronarium (gold crowns sent to the victor) for second.

    We would have corresponding for site contributions. For example, best artistic contributor would recieve the best skinner award and so on. To implement this, all we would need to do is create icons representing the various medals and crowns and attach them to the winners each competition using the rules already outlined in the Praedae Belli forum.
    They are a little dated now but I prefer roman motif anyhow.

    And for irony, here was your response at the time Bel:
    Quote Originally Posted by Belisarius View Post
    Too complicated, one rank for them to share.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mimirswell View Post
    When I first started advocating the award system in February of last year, I outlined a long list of awards:



    They are a little dated now but I prefer roman motif anyhow.

    And for irony, here was your response at the time Bel:
    Feb 2006? Christ I didnt even know what such a system would look like!

    Hmm, I think that a variation of both could work in that there is nothing stopping us from having all the above is there Mim? If Mim, as technical Admin was garantee that all those medals can be implemeted with ease and look good, then why not?
    Well, if I, Belisarius, the Black Prince, and you all agree on something, I really don't think there can be any further discussion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Belisarius View Post
    Feb 2006? Christ I didnt even know what such a system would look like!
    Pfft, I outlined the system, showed a demo and even offered to install the hack (incidentally, the precursor to the one we have now):
    Quote Originally Posted by Mimirswell View Post
    You could turn down a medal if you wanted just like anything else.

    Here is a vBulletin Addon to create the Award system for vBulletin v3.0.x (there is 3.5 version if we move to that):
    YAAS - Yet Another Award System
    Award Listing
    Example in a normal forum setting
    Member Profile

    I would recommend we have rewards be smaller than the sample forum and limit only a few be shown (those with more would have a link below the medals to go to their member profile).

    So yes, this is technically feasible and quite simple to use once in place.
    Sadly ON was rather less than compliant.

    Hmm, I think that a variation of both could work in that there is nothing stopping us from having all the above is there Mim? If Mim, as technical Admin was garantee that all those medals can be implemeted with ease and look good, then why not?
    There is really no limit to the number of medals we create. I can't guarantee they would look good (beg Manji, Spiff, Rahl et al)... but creating medals is quite easy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mimirswell View Post
    There is really no limit to the number of medals we create. I can't guarantee they would look good (beg Manji, Spiff, Rahl et al)... but creating medals is quite easy.
    See that more medals are created in the style of the Senatorial Robe and Wiki Editor awards.
    I quite like them (in fact, I feel a sudden urge to edit the TWC Wiki...)
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    Default Re: Proposal - Medals reform and fixing.

    Do we want to put something that specific into the Constitution? Its rather unflexible. I think Lusted's suggestion works rather well in Site Award terms: Keep it simple, stupid (not that anyone here is stupid, its just the phrase). However, I'd change it thus:



    Member Awards: This category of medals is awarded to every member who wins an award in the TWC Member Awards. The medal will have a year number on it to show when it was awarded. (if this is possible, i think it might be from what i've seen at .org) The Medal should also link to the relevant Awards thread. The precise medal is awarded based on the precise nature of the Member Award won.

    Modder Awards: This category of medals is awarded to every member who wins an award in the TWC Modder Awards. The medal will have a year number on it to show when it was awarded. (if this is possible, i think it might be from what i've seen at .org) The Medal should also link to the relevant Awards thread. The precise medal is awarded based on the precise nature of the Modder Award won.

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    I went for something as it would cut down the workload as maknig single medals for each award must take a bit of time, whilst a generalised one gives us one for now, and we could go into specific ones later.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lusted View Post
    I went for something as it would cut down the workload as maknig single medals for each award must take a bit of time, whilst a generalised one gives us one for now, and we could go into specific ones later.
    Oh, yeah, but yours would require a Curial Amendment to allow us to do specifics... mine we can go with general if we want and read it as meaning G/S/B, or as specific, meaning G/S/B+category.

    Beli, flexibility is good, to repeat. Those categories would be good but not codified into the Constitution.

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    I have an Idea, I will write it later.

    Ozy who runs site awards today?
    Well, if I, Belisarius, the Black Prince, and you all agree on something, I really don't think there can be any further discussion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Belisarius View Post
    Ozy who runs site awards today?
    Sod knows and therefore flexibility is the most important part of it - they are in flux and therefore they need to be left flexible. The last set, by the by, were run by Halie and Nihil (modders and members respectively).

    See, Lusted, that was my thinking, I just don't want the Constitution to have them laid out in. No flexibility for... whomsoever runs the next set.

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    Pfft, I outlined the system, showed a demo and even offered to install the hack (incidentally, the precursor to the one we have now)
    I have no memory of this. lol
    Well, if I, Belisarius, the Black Prince, and you all agree on something, I really don't think there can be any further discussion.
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    Default Re: Proposal - Medals reform and fixing.

    There is really no limit to the number of medals we create. I can't guarantee they would look good (beg Manji, Spiff, Rahl et al)... but creating medals is quite easy.
    If that's the case then lets go for a medal for each award.
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    I propose

    Member Awards - This category of medals is awarded to every member who wins an award in the TWC Member Awards. The medals will have a year number on it to show when it was awarded. The Medal should also link to the relevant Awards thread. The precise medal is awarded based on the precise nature of the Member Award won. The specific medals will be created by those in charge of the awards at the time and implemented by the Technical staff.
    Modder Awards - This category of medals is awarded to every member who wins an award in the TWC Modder Awards. The medal will have a year number on it to show when it was awarded. The Medal should also link to the relevant Awards thread. The specific medals will be created by those in charge of the awards at the time and implemented by the Technical staff.


    and from that flexible addition we get Mims being used.
    Well, if I, Belisarius, the Black Prince, and you all agree on something, I really don't think there can be any further discussion.
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    Mim's list but not codified, which I like... and not necessarily used, either.

    Anyway. Your modder awards write up is missing this line: "The precise medal is awarded based on the precise nature of the Modder Award won" which is essential.

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    Member Awards - This category of medals is awarded to every member who wins an award in the TWC Member Awards. The medals will have a year number on it to show when it was awarded. The Medal should also link to the relevant Awards thread. The precise medal is awarded based on the precise nature of the Member Award won. The specific medals will be created by those in charge of the awards at the time and implemented by the Technical staff.
    Modder Awards - This category of medals is awarded to every member who wins an award in the TWC Modder Awards. The medal will have a year number on it to show when it was awarded. The Medal should also link to the relevant Awards thread. The precise medal is awarded based on the precise nature of the Modder Award won. The specific medals will be created by those in charge of the awards at the time and implemented by the Technical staff.
    good?
    Well, if I, Belisarius, the Black Prince, and you all agree on something, I really don't think there can be any further discussion.
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    S'good. Supporty. But Content Writer exists nowhere except badges as a title - you want Content Staff Member.

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