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    Default (Moved to Vote)Rank to Medal Conversion: Honorary Ranks

    Proposer: Mimirswell
    Supporters: Garbarsardar, Siblesz, deRougemont, Professor420 (two Patricians and two Citizens)

    Remove "Article 2 - Honourary Ranks" and add to "Article 2 - Community Medals" the following:

    OpifexTo qualify as an Opifex, the nominee must have served the Total War Center or Total War Community with exceptional input to any of the boards or mods in any capacity other than that of a Staff Officer. A member of any Rank is eligible to receive an Opifex award but must also meet the criteria to become a Citizen. His nomination must also be seconded by an elected member of the Consilium de Civitates.

    Qualifying nominees shall have their nomination posted in the Prothalamos and will be moved to vote as per the procedure in Section 2 Article 3. Once moved to they shall be voted upon for a period of one week and require a two-third majority of non-abstaining votes to achieve the award. If the nominee was not already a Citizens, this Rank shall also be conferred upon them if they pass. A nominee who fails to pass his vote is not eligible to re-nominated until three months have passed.


    DivusTo achieve apotheosis and Curia vote, the nominee must be supported by three fourths of non abstaining elected members of the Consilium de Civitates. The nominee must have served as a Council Officer (or previous equivalents), made a clear and distinquished contribution to the community and provided exceptional service to TWC in their capacity as an administrator. They cannot be nominated within three months of resigning their Officer Position.

    Any Citizens can nominate a former Council Officer and does so by PMing a Consilium de Civitates member. The Consilium de Civitates will contact the nominee and ask if he or she will accept the nomination. If the nominee should decline, or fails to respond within one month, no further action need be taken and the nomination declared null and void.

    If the nominee should accept, the Consilium de Civitates will create a thread within the Consilium de Civitates Forum to investigate the legitimacy of the nominee’s accolades. The Consilium de Civitates has the right to request any and all relevant material from the Staff Officers to ascertain this, with the approval of the Council. The Consilium de Civitates will discuss the nominee and his qualifications for at least a week before the vote is held.

    Should the nominee receive the support of three fourths of non abstaining Consilium de Civitates members, the Curator shall create a discussion in the Prothalamos lasting at least three days and then move the nomination to vote as per the procedure in Section 2 Article 3. The vote shall last one week and the nominee shall require a two-third majority of non-abstaining votes to become Divus. A nominee who fails the vote is not eligible to be nominated again for a six month period.


    Rationale: These ranks are non-functional (though quite nice) and would better function as awards rather than ranks.
    Last edited by Mímirswell; May 17, 2007 at 02:23 AM.

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    I support this bill; honorary ranks should be just that.

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    Sure. I support. I'd like a nice award to my name.
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    Support.

    I agree mim, these "ranks" seem more like precursors to the awards idea. I don't know the history behind them, but logically that seems to be the case.

    This should also solve the problem of having two ranks with nearly the same qualifications (Patrician and Opifex). Having one as an a symbolic award and the other as a legislative rank sufficiently distinguishes them from each other.
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    Finally, I'll be able to keep my Opifex and lose my coloured name distinguishment when I next resign... I could not ask for something better. Support.
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    Well, what about the Artifex rank?
    How will we handle it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raven Darkwing View Post
    Well, what about the Artifex rank?
    How will we handle it?
    Currently the Citizens rank is shared by two badges, one for TW, one for CC. Ergo, neither is an honorary rank. Though, with the award system we could merge them and make awards for both but I'd rather not (at least not within this proposal).

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    Then it's fine for me, add me as patrician support.

    But, Opifex is a honorary rank then, but to get it you still need to be artifex first? I just want that cleared, it looks a little clouded to me how that case will be handled, I always viewed Opifex as an higher form of Artifex
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    Artifex is not a requirement. The opifex sections specifies ANY rank can qualify. Traditionally, most opifex were artifex. Another bonus of this system is, someone can become an opifex without joining the Curia (which seems to "turn off" several prominent modders).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Professor420 View Post
    Finally, I'll be able to keep my Opifex and lose my coloured name distinguishment when I next resign... I could not ask for something better. Support.
    Resign? What fun would that be? Then you'll be confined to shaking your fist at the Curia down in the Q&S!






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    I support, great idea.
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    My opposition is based on Nostalgia.

    What these are becoming medals? If so they have to be moved to the awards section.
    Well, if I, Belisarius, the Black Prince, and you all agree on something, I really don't think there can be any further discussion.
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    Nostalgia based opposition? How... nostalgic... I feel, I missed those

    Anyway. I support this, with Bel's caveat - since they are not ranks at this point, it makes little sense to put them in the ranks section of the Syn.

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    Default Re: Rank to Medal Conversion: Honorary Ranks

    Doesn't Mims proposal already say that though?

    Remove "Article 2 - Honourary Ranks" and add to "Article 2 - Community Medals" the following:
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    Well that shows what you get for skim reading. yes, yes it does... sorry Mim.
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    Should senatorii not also be removed since there is a corresponding medal for that already? That would seem to be consistent anyway.
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    Yes, I thought about that after I posted. I'm for removing it too.

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    Well then we'd also need to add "All mentions of Senatorii in the Constitution shall be struck out and replaced with Holders of the Moderator Mace Award."

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    Well, I'd like to see some Senatorii support before I officially add it.

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    Senatorii is an integral part of our community, hate to see just old things go, so I oppose.

    but if your going to do it -

    Patricians?
    Well, if I, Belisarius, the Black Prince, and you all agree on something, I really don't think there can be any further discussion.
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