Is Darwinism a pagan belief?

[NaptownKnight]

I for one believe that the followers of Darwin are modern pagans. Anyone agree?

[Sétanta]

No, just followers of a very different religion.

That is, Darwinism is a religion in its own way.

[Siblesz]

No, just followers of a very different religion.

That is, Darwinism is a religion in its own way.

Depending on how you define religion. IMO, a religion depends on faith, whilst Darwinism depends on science. So Darwinism cannot be defined as a religion. Maybe some who are uneducated take it as an unquestioned religion, but most who believe in Darwin see it as an idea that is backed by scientific proof, not as an idea that is backed by empty faith. Which simply makes it a theory, a theory that just happens to prove infallible to logic. Whether someone believes in anything more upon the constructs of that theory is up to an individual to decide, but the theory in itself cannot be conceived in any shape or form as a religion.

[Sétanta]

Faith in science? To accept a theory, you have to have faith in the people who promote it. Faith that their science is correct, that they really have found stuff out, faith that they know what they are talking about.

[Siblesz]

Faith in science? To accept a theory, you have to have faith in the people who promote it. Faith that their science is correct, that they really have found stuff out, faith that they know what they are talking about.

Or you could simply analyze the arguments yourself, which wouldn't make it a matter of faith, but a matter of common sense. 2+2=4, not 5. How do you know this? You can witness it. Grab two apples, then grab two more, and then put them together.

[Sétanta]

Or you could simply analyze the arguments yourself, which wouldn't make it a matter of faith, but a matter of common sense. 2+2=4, not 5. How do you know this? You can witness it. Grab two apples, then grab two more, and then put them together.

Can you prove that 2+2=4? No, we just accept that 2+2 does in fact equal 4.

[Mansa musa]

No, just followers of a very different religion.

That is, Darwinism is a religion in its own way.

no no humanism is a religion. the theory of Darwinism stems from ancient greek and babylonian mystery schools.

we are beasts and we should behave like such. fornicate all you like. drink all you like. vengeance is sacred and don't be afraid to show your animal instinct when the right time comes. oh and conflict is a law of nature.

[Blau&Gruen]

the theory of Darwinism stems from ancient greek and babylonian mystery schools.

No, it stems from Charles Darwin and has some earlier precessors in the late 18th century. But this are all things you learn if you take biology classes.

[Mansa musa]

No, it stems from Charles Darwin and has some earlier precessors in the late 18th century. But this are all things you learn if you take biology classes.

wich got there teachings from ancient greek and babylonian mystery schools.

[Blau&Gruen]

wich got there teachings from ancient greek and babylonian mystery schools.

Charles Darwin travelled around the world, collected samples and showed already as a kid an interest in nature. I do not know whether he ever learnt greek in school or later at university, though even if, the ancient greeks did not play a major role for his later life as a biologist and the babylonian scripture was not deciffered back then. He travelled and observed, that is how he got an understanding. Birds and trutles were his favorite subjects.

[Richard]

wich got there teachings from ancient greek and babylonian mystery schools.

Teachings? Just because something has a trait in common with something else does not mean the two are related. You're saying because A likes the colour red and B also happens to like the colour red, then B must have gotten his like of the colour red from A. Even though A and B happened to live thousands of years apart on opposite sides of the world and never knew of each other.

Though I'd like you to elaborate on your ancient mystery schools and how Darwin was influenced by them.

[Last Roman]

no no humanism is a religion.

huh? I think you are very mistaken

[MaximiIian]

I for one believe that the followers of Darwin are modern pagans. Anyone agree?

Not at all. Darwin's ideas form the basis of the Theory of Natural Selection and Theory of Sexual Selection, which form the basis of the Theory of Evolution, the fundamental functioning principle of Biology. It is a science, based on empirical, observed evidence, and postulations thereof formed from the conclusions of the observations.
They don't affirm or deny the philosophical concept of a deity or multiple deities in any way. Please keep in mind the difference between Philosophy and Science. Though they both attempt to find knowledge, they go about in completely different ways, and are entirely autonomous from each other. Religion and theology are subsets of Philosophy, and have nothing to do with science. And it is science which Darwin dealt with.

[NaptownKnight]

Not at all. Darwin's ideas form the basis of the Theory of Natural Selection and Theory of Sexual Selection, which form the basis of the Theory of Evolution, the fundamental functioning principle of Biology. It is a science, based on empirical, observed evidence, and postulations thereof formed from the conclusions of the observations.
They don't affirm or deny the philosophical concept of a deity or multiple deities in any way. Please keep in mind the difference between Philosophy and Science. Though they both attempt to find knowledge, they go about in completely different ways, and are entirely autonomous from each other. Religion and theology are subsets of Philosophy, and have nothing to do with science. And it is science which Darwin dealt with.

But their are similarities, evolutionists have a bible in Darwin's works, and a God in science. More of a monotheistic religion I guess.

[MaximiIian]

But their are similarities, evolutionists have a bible in Darwin's works, and a God in science. More of a monotheistic religion I guess.

Science is not a belief system. It is a method through which one can perceive and understand the universe.

[HopliteElite]

Whether or not Darwin believed in a god (he obviously didn't), his theory doesn't disprove the presence of God, just literal creationism.

Believe it or not Darwin actually did believe in a creator but you are right that he was not an advocate of literal creationism, seeing as how his theories pretty much disprove it.

[IndianPrince]

But their are similarities, evolutionists have a bible in Darwin's works, and a God in science. More of a monotheistic religion I guess.

WHAAA ???

I dont think so buddy, scientists dont 'worship' science just respect it and try to rationalize everything. It is a way of life but not a religion 4 sure.

Prince

[enoch]

Darwinism is NOT evolutionary theory - it is so annoying that people today don't take a second to think - where was biology in 1850, where is it now? and chemistry and psychology and physics and so on

evolutionary theory is no different
people who believe in evolution are NOT Darwinists

they are simply people who believe in the results of science
if the dinosaurs existed based on the fossil record than evolution happened and is happening by using the same type of scientific extrapolation plus all the other approaches that people have taken on the evidence

much of what we accept as intellectual fact today is just theory
evolution is no different and is no more a religion
than a belief in western medicine, the big bang, the nature of black holes, physics etc would be a religious belief

evolutionary theorists aren't even as sketchy as quantum field theorists and are not like sociological theorists or psychological theorists from a non biological perspective, which are much more conjecture

evolutionary theorists are like anthropologists or in simpler terms
if you believe in ancient babylon (like gilgamesh and enki mythological time / or ancient egypt or the maya), remember this, we have far more "damning" evidence that evolution exists, than we do for any of the above......

[NaptownKnight]

much of what we know is just theory yet is accepted as fact

Same with us Believers, kind of. Another similarity between a religion and Darwinism.

[enoch]

Same with us Believers, kind of. Another similarity between a religion and Darwinism.

my entire post was pointing out that DARWINISM AS YOU ARE USING IT DOES NOT EVEN EXIST OUTSIDE OF THE MAINSTREAM CULTURAL MISUNDERSTANDING OF LAYMAN OF THE NATURE OF & EVIDENCE SUPPORTING EVOLUTIONARY THEORY

the very first line of said post

Darwinism is NOT evolutionary theory