bigmap or vanilla map?

[Zephrelial]

yes but for the players it should have enough spaces to expand.. to gain money.. if you give most of the settlements to factions people must go in war at the beginning, and not everyone would like it i suppose..

Sure I will leave spaces to expand..

[Каие]

On second thoughts ill agree to a gradual increase of regions if you will concentrate on the new factions and britain. Eg in the Holy land, Arsuf, Kerak, Tripoli. Lithuanian cities. More arabian and asia mino, greece. More in Britain and Ireland. one more in italy.

Something like that so it doesn't slow down and it doesn't cause problems.
Personally i had no slowdown at all playing Regions and Provinces Mod standard version, not bigmap and Sicilian Vespers mod so imnot against a lot more regions but standard size.

[Zephrelial]

On second thoughts ill agree to a gradual increase of regions if you will concentrate on the new factions and britain. Eg in the Holy land, Arsuf, Kerak, Tripoli. Lithuanian cities. More arabian and asia mino, greece. More in Britain and Ireland. one more in italy.

Something like that so it doesn't slow down and it doesn't cause problems.
Personally i had no slowdown at all playing Regions and Provinces Mod standard version, not bigmap and Sicilian Vespers mod so imnot against a lot more regions but standard size.

I agree.From that point that an another new faction is implemented,depending on where the new factions implemented there is need for increasing the territories there kb8.

[Ieuano]

i personally dont like big map, the vanilla map is perfect for me

[Zephrelial]

i personally dont like big map, the vanilla map is perfect for me

I see,for a turtle player like me I'm quite fond of the vanilla either.However,there may be obligatory to add a few new provinces to make up space for the upcoming factions.

[Kalos]

I myself would like a bigger map with more unclaimed provinces.

[Zephrelial]

I myself would like a bigger map with more unclaimed provinces.

I see you prefer bigger map with more rebels.

[Ieuano]

I see,for a turtle player like me I'm quite fond of the vanilla either.However,there may be obligatory to add a few new provinces to make up space for the upcoming factions.

yes, a few extra privinces on russia, so Georgia will have somewhere to go and not look stupidly large. But keep the map vanilla sized. To emulate bigmap you could always lower movement points, and this way there is no blocky coastline.

[Zephrelial]

yes, a few extra privinces on russia, so Georgia will have somewhere to go and not look stupidly large. But keep the map vanilla sized. To emulate bigmap you could always lower movement points, and this way there is no blocky coastline.

And as a starting position I assuredly intend to give Tbilisi,a natural part of Georgia..It seems need for extra regions are kind of becoming obligatory when the new factions are being implemented.

[Tadzreuli]

And as a starting position I assuredly intend to give Tbilisi,a natural part of Georgia..It seems need for extra regions are kind of becoming obligatory when the new factions are being implemented.

yes, if you wish to add more region for Georgia, give - Kutaisi .

[Zephrelial]

yes, if you wish to add more region for Georgia, give - Kutaisi .

I'll keep that in mind Tadzreuli thank you for the suggestion.And judging from Tbilisi,where this city should be located.Was it a castle or a city by the way?

[Beka]

It was a huge city not a castle.

[Zephrelial]

It was a huge city not a castle.

So basically a city and not a castle thank you Beka.

[Beka]

you'r welcome

And one more thing I forgot to say vanilla map is better

[Zephrelial]

you'r welcome

And one more thing I forgot to say vanilla map is better

Ok.So you are content with the vanilla I see.

[Boztorgai_Khan]

Big MAP


MAP OF MIAK, IS SUPER COOL..




This is to Very COOL, BUT TIMURIDS was After MONGOLS,

MONGOLS ( 1180 AD - GREAT CLAN / 1200 AD - EMPIRE ) - GENGHIS KHAN

TIMURIDS ( 1360 AD ) - TIMUR LENK / TAMERLANE

[Zephrelial]

Big MAP


MAP OF MIAK, IS SUPER COOL..




This is to Very COOL, BUT TIMURIDS was After MONGOLS,

MONGOLS ( 1180 AD - GREAT CLAN / 1200 AD - EMPIRE ) - GENGHIS KHAN

TIMURIDS ( 1360 AD ) - TIMUR LENK / TAMERLANE

I didn't think it was possible to feature the Whole World,if his map is what you posted and what I see in the radar map,then hats off indeed...
Very impressing work,however I will have to create lots of new factions for this map if I use this one.Impossible to fill properly otherwise.

[Каие]

Are you going to have a poll?

[Каие]

Hey everyone.

Zeph hope you don't mind, but i thought i'd start this poll to get the map issue out of the way. I am confused and maybe others are too.

So we will resort to democracy. The choices are:

-Regions and Provinces mod (Bigmap version)
This is a hugley increased number of provinces and the actual map is a lot bigger e.g. the british isles is huge and has a lot of space about the size of vanilla europe.

Good points:
-Large space more field battles
-More provinces
-Campaign is less linear and will be longer.

Bad points:
-If scripting is added e.g. money scripts and such it could take a long time in between turns due to the increasinf number of armies and agents on top of scripts but without scripts (CAE doesn't have any) it should be ok.
-The map may just be too big for some people.

-Regions and provinces (Standard/Vanilla size)
This will have the same number of provinces that the one above has but is basically vanilla in size.

Good points:
-More provinces
-Campaign is less linear and will be longer.
-No slowdown

Bad points:
-could get over crowded.
-Due to small space, more sieges and less field battles.


http://www.twcenter.net/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=356

-Custom extension to Vanilla
This means just adding regions and settlements in certain points especialy for this mod but keeping vanilla size. i.e. adding more regions around the new factions to provide balance and hostorical accuracy.
e.g. In jerusalem, we could have Kerak, Tripoli, Tyre or Jaffa. More provinces in Lithuania.

Good points:
-Closest to orignal vanilla
-More provinces in special areas exclusive to the factions of this mod.
-More provinces
-No slowdowns

Bad points:
-Not bigmap.
-May not have that many additions.
-Could get overcrowded in certain 'hotspots'.

and finally...

-Orignal Vanilla (keep it how it is)

Read through make a choice, then vote. You can also discuss and correct me if im wrong i can add it.

My personel choice is to try a bigmap (Regions and Provinces) and try out in case of slowdown and other problems which i don;'t think there will be due to lack of scripts and such.

If that fails or as an alternative, custom provinces would be nice and help set this mod apart from others.

ps. I have allowed multiple choice and please give a reason if you can.

[Zephrelial]

Merged the threads so that people may discuss,and vote here at the sametime.