The Hippy recoil and personal space

[Silver Guard]

A gun fires, a bullet flies from its barrel at speeds so fast you'd be hit before you heard the shot. As it does so, the casing of the weapon snaps back, another bullet is sprung up into the barrel and the casing eases back, loading it. This process can be repeated at more then 60 times a second quite easily.
The power of recoil.
Another example of recoil is the 70s. The end of the 60s was Hippie era, long robes, no shoes, and lots of sex. Then came the punks, mohecans (sp), piecings, spikes and pleasure violence. Rape was just another way of expressing yourself, and the girl punks revelled in it.

The punks were a recoil action against hippy anti-agression. Ferret's name on MSN alerted me to something I had long wondered about... "I spend my lunch surrounded by people who apologise for every touch. Today I hugged a stranger, a thousand lonely people rioted."
I've earnt the name "Hug in a Hoodie" for my (considered very strange) habit of giving everyone hugs, no matter how well I know them (unless I'm a lawyer, at which point they'd sue me for sexual harrassment). However, it dosn't always go down too well, especialy with guys.

Everyone knows girls are more affectionate then guys, they give one another hugs, walk hand-in-hand, even kiss. What self-respecting guys would do that? We live in the shadow of the punk era, where if a guy moves within a foot of another, they feel uncomfortable and shift away (except Gays, but they seem to foil my every argument anyway, so we'll ignore them). What is this reflex? I sit with a bunch of girls, I would almost be expecing one to lean on me or sit on my lap without the slightest thought of anything sexual, I could lie down using one of their hip's as a pillow and it wouldn't be seen as unusual. However, hanging out with guys and I'd get a punch in the face at worst, be thrown on the floor at best.

The ego of the average male dosn't only lead to their lack of likeability, but also their lack of trust. They suffer from a paranoia that everyone is out to ruin their image, to make them seem "un-cool" or, heaven forbid, gay!

A man's personal space is precious, step inside it and you almost expect him to draw a costume, wear a cross-hatched shirt and yell "Geet offa mah lahnd!"

[Axe-Battler]

Actually, I think it's very stupid that humans get married, and only have 1 wife/husband...

men and women should be allowed multiple wives and husbands, and should be allowed to have sex with other people with no concern...

animals live so much better lives, ridiculous how modern man sucks...why did this happen?

[Silver Guard]

Wrong, many other animals have only one partner, ducks for example, or swans. It is quite natural for man to be as they are and only have one partner, it ensures the proper upbringing of young, which by the standards of other species, are pathetic and weak.

[Axe-Battler]

K we should've been like chimpanzees then.

They have testosterone levels and sex drives 10 times greater than men's.

They are also far more sexually wild and have numerous partners.

In fact just about all they do is have sex.

That would be a good life, instead we have to live crappily.

[Cluny the Scourge]

Most live crappily with one woman or not. We are all just faecal matter slowly being rinsed away with toilet-bleach. There is no hope, no purpose, no meaning - only death.

[Silver Guard]

No it wouldn't, trust me, sex is part of my weekly life, it's not something I'm so desperate for I would have more then one partner and revel in it non-stop all my life. Thats a waste of life if there ever was one.
And another recoil to the hippie way of life were the Goths, people obsessed with death and nihilism, who's views Cluny very aptly showed. Well done.

[Kythras]

Nice thread...

I'm proud to say i buck the trend, I hug my mates, I have kissed two of them on occassion, I've slept in the same bed as most of them (hell, there were 5 of us in the same bed one time) and they all do the same...

I show probabl say that it's the enlightened nature of the student populace at my school (or at least some of them, we get our idiots, homophobes, ignorant fools like every one else), you couldn't pay me ot go to another school...

[Axe-Battler]

If we could live in a tropical beach like scenerio, and just have sex all day with multiple partners, like we were meant to, there wouldn't be anymore suffering for the most part.

It's how life was supposed to be, but somewhere along the lines man become stupid enough to think he wasn't an animal.

[Silver Guard]

No, its not. We lived in jungles, up in trees to escape tigers, and eventualy moved to plains, where we still lived in trees and ran from tigers. We also had no clothing, no medicine, no farming, nothing. Ou possessions included a spear and a sharp rock, and we relied on one partner to carry our children. We were fiercly loyal to this ONE partner, a genetic thing to ensure we would stay with them to ensure the survival of our pathetic young.

[Chaigidel]

the problem with humanism and atheism is the incessant focus on human pleasure and fulfillment its frankly disgusting.

[crazyj]

the problem with humanism and atheism is the incessant focus on human pleasure and fulfillment its frankly disgusting.

Well said sir. And I'd have to agree about hippies being the problem in American in terms of discipline, and everyone's total self-absorption and emphasis on total freedom. This is because all those hippies and baby boomers are now middle aged, preaching their idiocy from schools, government, and everywhere else in society. They want the hippie values of their youths to be reinforced by getting the new generations to adopt/agree with certain elements. Pretty sad to listen to ex hippies ramble about anything of importance.


Ramtha: I think people obsessed with having sex all day long must not be getting very much. Like adolescents daydreaming about some sexual wonderland. When you are getting it, theres so much more you'd like to do. Hardly the end all be all. Unless you're not getting any. Then of course all you can think about is how you'd like to screw 24/7.

Of course, it's possible people are getting some and still have a sexual obsession as a means of gratifying the ego because the moment they aren't getting any their insecurities rise up.

But really, we weren't meant to just live on a beach screwing all day. We wouldn't need a brain for that.

France also had a hippie rise, but is still a right-wing state. Don't draw incorrect links.

Interesting you brought France up. A right wing state? More like a socialist welfare state mixed with some hard core right wingers.

And if you are looking for further proof of the damage the hippies have wrought, look no further than France. All their emphasis on made up rights of people, including the right to be employed, has seriously whacked out France's value system. As seen in the case of the riots, where students take to the streets because, dear god, their employers were trying to find some means to be able to fire the worst and laziest of new employees.

"NO!" they say, "you can't fire any of us once employed! We can be as big of douchebags as we want, and you still have to pay us!"

Why? "Because we are born. The gov. owes ME something." Welfare states suck.

Granted, those aren't their arguments per se, but that is what it comes down to. France was trying to fix its economy, but none of the ungrateful stupid students care about that. They care about #1, and thats it. As long as they have a guaranteed paycheck coming in, they could care less about anything else.

It's fun watching productivity and economic output and general economic healthiness decline in such countries, all while students riot to ensure they are taken care of and the decline continues.

Nowadays, they ask not what they can do for their country, but only what their country can do for their wretched hides.

This isn't a random phenomenon. This is a product of what they were told to expect, what they were told they deserved. And who was telling them this as they grew up hmm?

[Silver Guard]

Excuse me? Please found these wierd beliefs of yours. What has Atheism got to do with personal morals? And Humanism is not Hedonism.
I'm quite frankly shocked by such a strange twist on two separate things?

[Chaigidel]

I was just going by the posts above about the hippie connection

spending life pursuing what your genes tell you to is just absolute weakness--

the strong resist everything--even themselves

and humanism is not hedonism but they are related as displayed in the posts above.

and things seem really strange sometimes doesnt seem like they are connected or related but everything is---
atheism is a kind of precursor to humanism in my mind at least --both self absorbed philosophies.
again my post mainly spoke of the posts above-- jokes or not--

[Silver Guard]

I'm sorry, but none of the posts above realted to Atheism or Humanism, its completly off topic. What can be more self-absorbed then a belief that the being who created the universe actualy cares about your beliefs and fears and troubles. Not much. Atheism is not self absorbed, but if you'd like to challenge it please take it to a thread which relates to it at all.

[Chaigidel]

sorry about my misconception----I am stating that HIPPIES ARE ATHEISTS AND HUMANISTS-- thats how it relates

and i agree completely believing that something cares about your beliefs and fears and troubles is foolish, and completely self centered and self absorbed

but self absorbed i meant to lay upon hippies and blame them for all our modern problems

so --- Hippies are the cause of the downfall of western society
hippies are humanists and atheists -- and douchebags
everything hippies believe disgusts me except for enviromentalism :O

sorry i was not clearer i was trying to speak on this topic :O thanks

[Silver Guard]

Hippies are Atheists? Haha, not nearly all of them, have you not noticed how many 60s films and photos have hippies with metal crosses round their necks?

Please don't troll, and please lay out whatever logic is actualy in your posts for people to see, as I presently can't see any. That you blame hippies dosn't then mean you can claim that they caused the fall of western society, nor can you then say you hate everything about hippies... except for one of the things they caused, thats hipocricy

[Chaigidel]

you have never heard the term godless heathen?= hippie

and as to why i think hippies brought down the society is because they emphasized total freedom --when discipline is the key to success

that has bled out into our society down to even today-- the lack of discipline of modern america is directly traced to the "free-thinkers" of the 60s. and the hippie movement.

im not gonna cite sources or anything or statistics because i would be making them up-- this is just an opinion based on observation.

[Silver Guard]

Since when did anyone not born in 1000AD use the term Godless heathen?
Pah, America, look over here, Britain had the largest Hippie era of the past, and It'd got more moral dicipline then America, France also had a hippie rise, but is still a right-wing state. Don't draw incorrect links.

[Chaigidel]

godless heathen, :O

I had no idea the brits and french had huge hippy problems at the same time as we.. but I think its probably why the brits produces some of the most god awful music ever(the beatles) and the french lost algiers.

if not the hippies then who? mass media? the internets?

admittedly like you said its a constant recoil against whatever generation preceded hence ronald reagan is a hero. --there is always an underculture so to speak-- beatniks and the like

but i still contend that the underlying hippie ideal is what is responsible for the modern american lack of discipline-- that and modern hippies, like yourself.

[Denny Crane!]

Is there some percieved problem with modern western society, surely its better than its ever been and certain influences like the hippy movement helped towards the movement for equality and whatever declines in racism and discrimination we have had.

As for a lack of modern american discipline, I think that there will always be detractors, people who think society is falling apart at the seams in the face of all evidence.

Peter