!Attention! Mod Makers: Offic. Patch 1.2 --> CA moved some files around...

[Armoured Hoplite]

I played over 30 custom battles with no problems, then I tried vs. Venetian Heavy Infantry and got an unspecified error crash. I played about 6 more against others with no problem, then as soon as I tried vs. VHI again it crashed. Every time I try a custom battle with VHI the game crashes, no other crashes after a few hours with patch. Anyone else confirm this?

Sorry if this is known or already reported.

Strange. I added White_Wolf's Byzantine Armor Progression mod after fresh install and patch 1.2 and was having crashes every time. I removed the mod and the [io] file_first = true from my preferences file and it stopped the crashes.

[GODzilla]

Today I had a crash when I tried to use the "Venetian Heavy Infantry". For one hour I was not able to find the problem, but finally...

I'm using a modified battle_model.db file which is the cause of the problem. This file has originally been created by Whitewolf, but with version 1.1 of the game so he is not to blame guilty for this problem.

You will always run into the same problem with any other edited model.db file that has been changed prior to the official patch 1.2 (for instance burreks K&K).

Simple and short, how to fix it:

1.) Venetian Heavy Infantry (no upgrade)

Change the following entries

1 3
73 unit_models/_Units/LN_3QPlate_HalfPlate/venetian_heavy_infantry_lod0.mesh 121 
73 unit_models/_Units/LN_3QPlate_HalfPlate/venetian_heavy_infantry_lod1.mesh 1225 
73 unit_models/_Units/LN_3QPlate_HalfPlate/venetian_heavy_infantry_lod2.mesh 6400
1 
6 venice 
81 unit_models/_Units/LN_3QPlate_HalfPlate/textures/mtw2_LN_halfplate_venice.texture 
81 unit_models/_Units/LN_3QPlate_HalfPlate/textures/mtw2_LN_halfplate_normal.texture 
54 unit_sprites/venice_Venetian_Heavy_Infantry_sprite.spr

Into this:

1 4
72 unit_models/_Units/LN_Brigandine_heavy/venetian_heavy_infantry_lod0.mesh 121 
72 unit_models/_Units/LN_Brigandine_heavy/venetian_heavy_infantry_lod1.mesh 900
72 unit_models/_Units/LN_Brigandine_heavy/venetian_heavy_infantry_lod2.mesh 2500
72 unit_models/_Units/LN_Brigandine_heavy/venetian_heavy_infantry_lod3.mesh 6400
1 
6 venice 
77 unit_models/_Units/LN_Brigandine_heavy/textures/LN_ Brigandine_venice.texture 
77 unit_models/_Units/LN_Brigandine_heavy/textures/LN_ Brigandine_normal.texture 
58 unit_sprites/venice_Venetian_Heavy_Infantry_ug1_sprite.spr

2.) Venetian Heavy Infantry Upgrade 1

Change the following entries

1 4
76 unit_models/_Units/LN_Brigandine_heavy/venetian_heavy_infantry_ug1_lod0.mesh 121 
76 unit_models/_Units/LN_Brigandine_heavy/venetian_heavy_infantry_ug1_lod1.mesh 900 
76 unit_models/_Units/LN_Brigandine_heavy/venetian_heavy_infantry_ug1_lod2.mesh 2500 
76 unit_models/_Units/LN_Brigandine_heavy/venetian_heavy_infantry_ug1_lod3.mesh 6400
1 
6 venice 
77 unit_models/_Units/LN_Brigandine_heavy/textures/LN_ Brigandine_venice.texture 
77 unit_models/_Units/LN_Brigandine_heavy/textures/LN_ Brigandine_normal.texture 
58 unit_sprites/venice_Venetian_Heavy_Infantry_ug1_sprite.spr

Into this:

1 3
77 unit_models/_Units/LN_3QPlate_HalfPlate/venetian_heavy_infantry_ug1_lod0.mesh 121
77 unit_models/_Units/LN_3QPlate_HalfPlate/venetian_heavy_infantry_ug1_lod1.mesh 1225
77 unit_models/_Units/LN_3QPlate_HalfPlate/venetian_heavy_infantry_ug1_lod2.mesh 6400
1 
6 venice 
81 unit_models/_Units/LN_3QPlate_HalfPlate/textures/mtw2_LN_halfplate_venice.texture 
81 unit_models/_Units/LN_3QPlate_HalfPlate/textures/mtw2_LN_halfplate_normal.texture 
54 unit_sprites/venice_Venetian_Heavy_Infantry_sprite.spr

So any modified battle_model.db file of any older mod (pre patch 1.2) has to be changed or the game will crash when it looks for the old locations!

I have no idea if they moved other files of other units, because I have not the time to test them all. I'll add more when I find something...


PS: See what they did? They "fixed" the armor upgrade problem for the venetian heavy infantry. But what the hell....why didn't they just switch the armor upgrade entries in the EDU like all the modders did? NO, it has to be the complicated way... It took me 2h to find all problems / typos and to finally understand the "coding" system in the battle_model.db by trial and error (sometimes the lines are triple coded, one starting with the count of the characters to follow [1] then one single character telling how many lines are following below [for instance 3] and then below the texture / model lines with the character-counter in front of it *brain explodes*)...I believe they made it this complicated to drive us modders nuts. *g* Well...they succeded.


PPS: We DESPERATLY need a v1.2 formatted model.db file. There has been one for version 1.0 and v1.1 of the game. Does anybody know how to format this file? Thanks in advance. *Solved* Thank you guys.

[ferres]

Lol!
Have not played this game in quite a while. I went back to Rtw.

[Zephrelial]

Thanks a lot for this discovery Godzilla I guess I'll have to edit the battlemodels.model.db's of my mods.As well as the folders of _units regarding venetian heavy infantry

[GODzilla]

Thanks a lot for this discovery Godzilla I guess I'll have to edit the battlemodels.model.db's of my mods.As well as the folders of _units regarding venetian heavy infantry

You know what is even funnier? CA didn't fix the same problem for the venetian archers!

PS: I edited the first post for a more clear strcture and fixed some typos with the code. Due to my learning process there were some problems in the code. But now it's fine as far as I can see. I tested it ingame and it works well!

/edit:

Lol!
Have not played this game in quite a while. I went back to Rtw.

OMG....omg! It's you. I totally missed the fact it's you lol!

Long time no see ferres, welcome back. I'm glad to see you here. I thought you lost interest in m2tw. Just like me in the beginning. But now as the game is finally playable without major bugs I enjoy it. ^^

[ferres]

Hi, GODzilla.
The current m2tw modding tools are still limiting for me(software wise). I'm too much of a roman era fan.

If you check the old moddinglegions thread, I'm finishing up a late republican set. I wanted to play around with Ceasars legions for a while.

[zxiang1983]

I've compared the whole modeldb file. VHI is the only unit that changes. So no worry. just fix it


Edit: The more important thing is EDU, however. Almost all archers have their new arrow model in 1.2, such as composite_arrow, cav_composite_arrow, etc. So, those who are using Real Arrow mod need to be careful here.

[GODzilla]

I've compared the whole modeldb file. VHI is the only unit that changes. So no worry. just fix it


Edit: The more important thing is EDU, however. Almost all archers have their new arrow model in 1.2, such as composite_arrow, cav_composite_arrow, etc. So, those who are using Real Arrow mod need to be careful here.

I'm using the real arrow mod but I already spotted the new arrows with the leaked patch 1.2 and made the necessary changes. But thanks for the hint.

Hi, GODzilla.
The current m2tw modding tools are still limiting for me(software wise). I'm too much of a roman era fan.

If you check the old moddinglegions thread, I'm finishing up a late republican set. I wanted to play around with Ceasars legions for a while.

I see. Cool. When you've finished them please let me know...or I'll better go check myself an renew the subscription to this topic.

[Hans Kloss]

PPS: We DESPERATLY need a v1.2 formatted model.db file. There has been one for version 1.0 and v1.1 of the game. Does anybody know how to format this file? Thanks in advance

Try this tool

http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=85734

[GODzilla]

Try this tool

http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=85734

Wow, great. Seems to be the swiss pocket knife of modding tools!


/edit: Mhm...I just tested this tool. I followed the instructions of the readme and after checking the battle_mode.db file it generates two files:

COMPACT_battle_model.db
PARSED_battle_model.db

The first file is basically the same as the vanilla model.db file. It's not structure and therefore useless for me. The second file misses many many lines of the original model.db file. It is strctures, yes, but it has only 2421 lines of code while my structured model.db file has 25.200 lines of code. The PARSED_battle_model.db is also only 96KB big.

So now I'm asking myself: Is it working correctly? And more important, what did it do?


/edit2: It seems the Mod Tool needs a vanilla battle_model.db as a basis. With a vanilla file it creates a structured model.db file of the right size and with all content. ^^ My fault *g*.

But the bad news is that it cannot spell-check already formatted model.db files.

[tornnight]

It if it spat out a partial modeldb file that means you had syntax errors.

Check the log for clues about the position. You can usually figure it out by looking where it started to go bad in the incomplete PARSED output.

The parser is sensitive to missing spaces. It expects spaces to be exactly as they are in the vanilla version. Thats the most common mistake because some lines end with 2 spaces.

[zxiang1983]

I think KE's format tool(which is included with his formated modeldb v2) is well enough.
http://www.twcenter.net/forums/downl...o=file&id=1180

It's a python program. And just throw your vanilla modeldb to it. It will do all the things rest. Nothing else needed.

[Hans Kloss]

Just tested "vanilla" battle_models formatted with KE python prog and it seem to be working fine.I have attached file to my post

[GODzilla]

Just tested "vanilla" battle_models formatted with KE python prog and it seem to be working fine.I have attached file to my post

Thanks, I just downloaded it. Though I already downloaded this phyton prog, but your file is saving me time.

[Hans Kloss]

please test it if you would...just in case

[Marcus Aemilius Scaurus]

PPS: We DESPERATLY need a v1.2 formatted model.db file. There has been one for version 1.0 and v1.1 of the game. Does anybody know how to format this file? Thanks in advance.

Try this!

[GODzilla]

Try this!

Too late.

[onefistedboxer]

ive got the same problem when using dlv 3 but not in vanilla

[Candelarius]

Nope, it's working fine in vanilla. OP, please specify if you are using any mods. I loaded a pair of VHI, upgraded and not upgraded, and played a few custom battles. No crashes.



I haven't had a single CTD with vanilla yet, in fact.

[Marcus Aemilius Scaurus]

Look at: !Attention! Mod Makers: Offic. Patch 1.2 --> CA moved some files around...

I solve the VHI problem in this way:

In the battle_models files change:
Quote:
23 venetian_heavy_infantry
1 3
73 unit_models/_Units/LN_3QPlate_HalfPlate/venetian_heavy_infantry_lod0.mesh 121
73 unit_models/_Units/LN_3QPlate_HalfPlate/venetian_heavy_infantry_lod1.mesh 1225
73 unit_models/_Units/LN_3QPlate_HalfPlate/venetian_heavy_infantry_lod2.mesh 6400
1
6 venice
81 unit_models/_Units/LN_3QPlate_HalfPlate/textures/mtw2_LN_halfplate_venice.texture
81 unit_models/_Units/LN_3QPlate_HalfPlate/textures/mtw2_LN_halfplate_normal.texture
54 unit_sprites/venice_Venetian_Heavy_Infantry_sprite.spr
1
6 venice
60 unit_models/AttachmentSets/Final Italian_venice_diff.texture
60 unit_models/AttachmentSets/Final Italian_venice_norm.texture 0
1
4 None
9 MTW2_Mace 0
2
17 MTW2_Mace_Primary
14 fs_test_shield 0
16 -0.090000004 0 0 -0.34999999 0.80000001 0.60000002
27 venetian_heavy_infantry_ug1
1 4
76 unit_models/_Units/LN_Brigandine_heavy/venetian_heavy_infantry_ug1_lod0.mesh 121
76 unit_models/_Units/LN_Brigandine_heavy/venetian_heavy_infantry_ug1_lod1.mesh 900
76 unit_models/_Units/LN_Brigandine_heavy/venetian_heavy_infantry_ug1_lod2.mesh 2500
76 unit_models/_Units/LN_Brigandine_heavy/venetian_heavy_infantry_ug1_lod3.mesh 6400
1
6 venice
77 unit_models/_Units/LN_Brigandine_heavy/textures/LN_ Brigandine_venice.texture
77 unit_models/_Units/LN_Brigandine_heavy/textures/LN_ Brigandine_normal.texture
58 unit_sprites/venice_Venetian_Heavy_Infantry_ug1_sprite.spr
into:
Quote:
23 venetian_heavy_infantry
1 4
72 unit_models/_Units/LN_Brigandine_heavy/venetian_heavy_infantry_lod0.mesh 121
72 unit_models/_Units/LN_Brigandine_heavy/venetian_heavy_infantry_lod1.mesh 900
72 unit_models/_Units/LN_Brigandine_heavy/venetian_heavy_infantry_lod2.mesh 2500
72 unit_models/_Units/LN_Brigandine_heavy/venetian_heavy_infantry_lod3.mesh 6400
1
6 venice
77 unit_models/_Units/LN_Brigandine_heavy/textures/LN_ Brigandine_venice.texture
77 unit_models/_Units/LN_Brigandine_heavy/textures/LN_ Brigandine_normal.texture
58 unit_sprites/venice_Venetian_Heavy_Infantry_ug1_sprite.spr
1
6 venice
60 unit_models/AttachmentSets/Final Italian_venice_diff.texture
60 unit_models/AttachmentSets/Final Italian_venice_norm.texture 0
1
4 None
9 MTW2_Mace 0
2
17 MTW2_Mace_Primary
14 fs_test_shield 0
16 -0.090000004 0 0 -0.34999999 0.80000001 0.60000002
27 venetian_heavy_infantry_ug1
1 3
77 unit_models/_Units/LN_3QPlate_HalfPlate/venetian_heavy_infantry_ug1_lod0.mesh 121
77 unit_models/_Units/LN_3QPlate_HalfPlate/venetian_heavy_infantry_ug1_lod1.mesh 1225
77 unit_models/_Units/LN_3QPlate_HalfPlate/venetian_heavy_infantry_ug1_lod2.mesh 6400
1
6 venice
81 unit_models/_Units/LN_3QPlate_HalfPlate/textures/mtw2_LN_halfplate_venice.texture
81 unit_models/_Units/LN_3QPlate_HalfPlate/textures/mtw2_LN_halfplate_normal.texture
54 unit_sprites/venice_Venetian_Heavy_Infantry_sprite.spr