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    Default Yes, I have a 6-page paper on Buddhism due in 4 hours.

    Help.

    I know there are some Buddhists on this board, and I need some firsthand testimony of things such as what are your theories (philosophical and theological), what do you believe existentially, and what are the pragmatic aspects of your world view. The general history and analyzation I shouldn't have a problem with, but I have no direct contact with Buddhists IRL, so I need a little assistance if that was possible.

    There's going to be differentiating views among Buddhism, as well, so if there's anything critical I should know (relating to origin, meaning, morality, destiny, god, man, nature, et cetera), PLEASE let me know.

    This is research, so sources would be helpful wherever possible. Otherwise I'll just source this site with a Buddhist's testimony.

    This is a high school paper, nothing big, and I'm definitely not asking anyone to write my paper for me. But it IS due in 4 hours.

    Thank you so much. +Rep for those who help out.

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    Default Re: Yes, I have a 6-page paper on Buddhism due in 4 hours.

    TWO MORE PAGES. I CAN DO THIS.

    I really need help with philosophical and biblical critique. Just throw verses or quotes out there. Websites. Anything. PleeeEEEeeease.

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    How to answer the Evangelists
    http://www.uq.net.au/slsoc/bsq/budchr8.htm

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    It's quick to read, and very useful to quote: http://www.spiritualbookstore.com/Ze...on_Preface.htm

    佛語心爲宗、無門爲法門。

    Buddhism makes mind its foundation and no-gate its gate.

    既是無門、且作麼生透。

    Now, how do you pass through this no-gate?

    豈不見道、從門入者不是家珍、從縁得者始終成壞。

    It is said that things coming in through the gate can never be your own treasures. What is gained from external circumstances will perish in the end.

    恁麼説話、大似無風起浪好肉抉瘡。

    However, such a saying is already raising waves when there is no wind. It is cutting unblemished skin.

    何況滯言句覓解會。 掉棒打月、隔靴爬痒、有甚交渉。

    As for those who try to understand through other people's words, they are striking at the moon with a stick; scratching a shoe, whereas it is the foot that itches. What concern have they with the truth?



    慧開、紹定戊子夏、首衆于東嘉龍翔。因納子請益、遂將古人公案作敲門瓦子、隨機引導學者。

    In the summer of the first year of Jõtei, Ekai was in Ryûshõ Temple and as head monk worked with the monks, using the cases of the ancient masters as brickbats to batter the gate and lead them on according to their respective capacities.

    竟爾抄録、不覺成集。初不以前後敍列、共成四十八則。

    The text was written down not according to any scheme, but just to make a collection of forty-eight cases.

    通曰無門關。

    It is called Mumonkan, "The Gateless Gate."



    若是箇漢、不顧危亡單刀直入。

    A man of determination will unflinchingly push his way straight forward, regardless of all dangers.

    八臂那咤、擱他不在。

    Then even the eight-armed Nata cannot hinder him.

    縦使西天四七、東土二三、只得望風乞命。

    Even the four sevens of the West and the two threes of the East would beg for their lives.

    設或躊躇、也似隔窓看馬騎、貶得眼來、早已蹉過。

    If one has no determination, then it will be like catching a glimpse of a horse galloping past the window: in the twinkling of an eye it will be gone.



    Verse 頌曰

    大道無門 The Great Way is gateless,

    千差有路 Approached in a thousand ways.
    http://www.spiritualbookstore.com/Ze...e_Joshu_Mu.htm

    Zen Buddhism: The Gateless Gate: Joshu's 'Mu'

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    The Gateless Gate of Zen Buddhism Case 1 Jõshû's "Mu" 一 趙州狗子



    趙州和尚、因僧問、狗子還有佛性也無。州云、無。

    A monk asked Jõshû, "Has a dog the Buddha Nature?" Jõshû answered, "Mu."



    Mumon's Comment

    無門曰、參禪須透祖師關、妙悟要窮心路絶。

    In order to master Zen, you must pass the barrier of the patriarchs. To attain this subtle realization, you must completely cut off the way of thinking.

    祖關不透心路不絶、盡是依草附木精靈。

    If you do not pass the barrier, and do not cut off the way of thinking, then you will be like a ghost clinging to the bushes and weeds.

    且道、如何是祖師關。

    Now, I want to ask you, what is the barrier of the patriarchs?

    只者一箇無字、乃宗門一關也。

    Why, it is this single word "Mu." That is the front gate to Zen.

    遂目之曰禪宗無門關。

    Therefore it is called the "Mumonkan of Zen."

    透得過者、非但親見趙州、便可與歴代祖師把手共行、眉毛厮結同一眼見、同一耳聞。

    If you pass through it, you will not only see Jõshû face to face, but you will also go hand in hand with the successive patriarchs, entangling your eyebrows with theirs, seeing with the same eyes, hearing with the same ears.

    豈不慶快。

    Isn't that a delightful prospect?

    莫有要透關底麼。

    Wouldn't you like to pass this barrier?



    將三百六十骨節、八萬四千毫竅、通身起箇疑團參箇無字。

    Arouse your entire body with its three hundred and sixty bones and joints and its eighty-four thousand pores of the skin; summon up a spirit of great doubt and concentrate on this word "Mu."

    晝夜提撕、莫作虚無會、莫作有無會。

    Carry it continuously day and night. Do not form a nihilistic conception of vacancy, or a relative conception of "has" or "has not."

    如呑了箇熱鐵丸相似、吐又吐不出。

    It will be just as if you swallow a red-hot iron ball, which you cannot spit out even if you try.

    蕩盡從 前惡知惡覚、久久純熟自然内外打成—片、如唖子得夢、只許自知。

    All the illusory ideas and delusive thoughts accumulated up to the present will be exterminated, and when the time comes, internal and external will be spontaneously united. You will know this, but for yourself only, like a dumb man who has had a dream.
    http://www.spiritualbookstore.com/Ze...yakujo_Fox.htm

    The Gateless Gate of Zen Buddhism Case 2 Hyakujõ's Fox 二 百丈野狐



    百丈和尚、凡參次、有一老人常隨衆聽法。

    When Hyakujõ Oshõ delivered a certain series of sermons, an old man always followed the monks to the main hall and listened to him.

    衆人退、老人亦退。

    When the monks left the hall, the old man would also leave.

    忽一日不退。師遂問、面前立者復是何人。

    One day, however, he remained behind, and Hyakujõ asked him, "Who are you, standing here before me?"

    老人云、諾。

    The old man replied.

    某甲非人也。

    "I am not a human being.

    於過去迦葉佛時曾住此山。

    In the old days of Kashyapa Buddha, I was a head monk, living here on this mountain.

    因學人問、大修行底人還落因果也無。

    One day a student asked me, 'Does a man of enlightenment fall under the yoke of causation or not?'

    某甲對云、不落因果。

    I answered, 'No, he does not.'

    五百生墮野狐身。

    Since then I have been doomed to undergo five hundred rebirths as a fox.

    今請、和尚代一轉語貴脱野狐。

    I beg you now to give the turning word to release me from my life as a fox.

    遂問、大修行底人、還落因果也無。

    Tell me, does a man of enlightenment fall under the yoke of causation or not?"

    師云、不昧因果。

    Hyakujõ answered, "He does not ignore causation."

    老人於言下大悟。

    No sooner had the old man heard these words than he was enlightened.

    作禮云、某甲、已脱野狐身住在山後。

    Making his bows, he said, "I am emancipated from my life as a fox. I shall remain on this mountain.

    敢告和尚。 乞、依亡僧事例。

    I have a favor to ask of you: would you please bury my body as that of a dead monk."



    師、令維那白槌告衆、食後送亡僧。

    Hyakujõ had the director of the monks strike with the gavel and inform everyone that after the midday meal there would be a funeral service for a dead monk.

    大衆言議、一衆皆安、涅槃堂又無人病。何故如是。

    The monks wondered at this, saying, "Everyone is in good health; nobody is in the sick ward. What does this mean?"

    食後只見師領衆至山後嵒下、以杖挑出一死野狐、乃依火葬。

    After the meal Hyakujõ led the monks to the foot of a rock on the far side of the mountain and with his staff poked out the dead body of a fox and performed the ceremony of cremation.

    師、至晩上堂、擧前因縁。

    That evening he ascended the rostrum and told the monks the whole story.

    黄蘗便問、古人錯祗對一轉語、墮五百生野狐身、轉轉不錯合作箇甚麼。

    Õbaku thereupon asked him, "The old man gave the wrong answer and was doomed to be a fox for five hundred rebirths. Now, suppose he had given the right answer, what would have happened then?"

    師云、近前來與伊道。

    Hyakujõ said, "You come here to me, and I will tell you."

    黄蘗遂近前、與師一掌。

    Õbaku went up to Hyakujõ and boxed his ears.

    師拍手笑云、將謂、胡鬚赤。 更有赤鬚胡。

    Hyakujõ clapped his hands with a laugh and exclaimed, "I was thinking that the barbarian had a red beard, but now I see before me the red-bearded barbarian himself."



    Mumon's Comment

    無門曰、不落因果、爲甚墮野狐。

    Not falling under causation: how could this make the monk a fox?

    不昧因果、爲甚脱野狐。

    Not ignoring causation: how could this make the old man emancipated?

    若向者裏著得一隻眼、便知得前百丈贏得風流五百生。

    If you come to understand this, you will realize how old Hyakujõ would have enjoyed five hundred rebirths as a fox.



    Mumon's Verse 頌曰

    不落不昧 Not falling, not ignoring:

    兩采一賽 Two faces of one die.

    不昧不落 Not ignoring, not falling:

    千錯萬錯 A thousand errors, a million mistakes.
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    Default Re: Yes, I have a 6-page paper on Buddhism due in 4 hours.

    Ronnec, I'd sent a PM to irishman as fast as you can, and do search for his thread called "Buddhism". He can probably help you get an A.

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    Default Re: Yes, I have a 6-page paper on Buddhism due in 4 hours.

    Ok, one more page. Just one more page. All I have to do is B.S. my way through the philosophy part, throw some bible verses around and make half-assed arguments, and act like I defeated tEh BuDdihsm.

    I actually like Buddhism very much (I kinda leaned that way before I was Christian), but I digress, another thread, another ... I gotta get back to work.

    Thanks.

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    Default Re: Yes, I have a 6-page paper on Buddhism due in 4 hours.

    There's no real contradiction between being Buddhist and being Christian, just a little bending stuff here and there. :wink:
    Last edited by Ummon; May 02, 2007 at 12:32 PM.

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    The criticisms could come in where one of its greatest strengths is also its greatest weakness. Its lack of dogma allowed it to spread absorbing other belief systems and you see this primarily in Mahanyana but also in tibetan and theravaden buddhism systems where they introduce a lot of metaphysical beliefs into it. This can and does include seeing the Buddha as a divine person and semi divine persons as well. Reincarnation becomes fundamentally misunderstood as does the wheel of samsara, both given literalist meanings rather than abstract in the relation to psycological states. It could be said that a reasonable level of education and intelligence is neccessary to really understand some of the teachings, though not all paths to reach the ultimate goal of buddhism require this depth.

    When I say it is one of its greatest strengths and weaknesses, percieving the above as weakness is only one perspective. In some ways this is a great strength, the lack of emphasis on a sacred gospel allows each to find his own path whether it be through what I consider to be the true path or what a tibetan feels to be the true path.

    Then, picking up a few Simsapa leaves with his hand, the Buddha asked the monks, 'What do you think, monks: Which are more numerous, the leaves in my hand or those in the forest?'
    'The leaves in your hand are few in number, lord. Those overhead in the forest are far more numerous.'
    'In the same way, monks, those things that I have known with direct knowledge but have not taught are far more numerous [than what I have taught]. And what have I taught? "Dukkha... The origination of dukkha... The cessation of dukkha... The path of practice leading to the cessation of dukkha


    There is no right or wrong answers, certain strong principles remain but each must find his own path and there isn't a magic book that will help. What the Buddha learned himself in some instances would have been useless to his monks.

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    Default Re: Yes, I have a 6-page paper on Buddhism due in 4 hours.

    Okay, no only ONE MORE THING... It is said that siddhartha never existed, or merely was another coming of previous buddha(s). Any sites on this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronnec View Post
    Okay, no only ONE MORE THING... It is said that siddhartha never existed, or merely was another coming of previous buddha(s). Any sites on this?
    Whether Buddha existed or not is totally immaterial and worthless. The ideas presented are valid, the reasons to follow it or valid and Buddha was never put across as anything but an ordinary man. There isn't anything to worship or any question of divine origin so it really is a worthless question (as a value of worth and what is to be obtained by asking it). The historical sources are unreliable so I leave it as a maybe, I suspect so. Perhaps differently to how he is portrayed, it changes nothing.

    Is he a coming of a previous Buddha? I don't think reincarnation exists as a buddhist so no, I don't think he or anyone else has ever "come again" it might be worth contrasting the concepts of rebirth and reincarnation as buddhist and Hindu concepts.

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    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Huineng

    The body is a Bodhi tree,
    the mind a standing mirror bright.
    At all times polish it diligently,
    and let no dust alight.

    ----

    Bodhi is no tree,
    nor is the mind a standing mirror bright.
    Since all is originally empty,
    where does the dust alight?

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    Default Re: Yes, I have a 6-page paper on Buddhism due in 4 hours.

    Oh, yes, that quote. You see, Buddhism is an esoterical form of knowledge much more than many suspect.

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    Default Re: Yes, I have a 6-page paper on Buddhism due in 4 hours.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ummon View Post
    Oh, yes, that quote. You see, Buddhism is an esoterical form of knowledge much more than many suspect.
    I don't think its mysterious, frequently misunderstood perhaps and blended with eastern philosophy but not mysterious. In fact the basic principles, the most important things can be understood with about two or three hours reading at the most.

    Peter

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    Default Re: Yes, I have a 6-page paper on Buddhism due in 4 hours.

    Actually, it's the Buddha-nature which is important for the message, not the person of the single Buddha.

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    Default Re: Yes, I have a 6-page paper on Buddhism due in 4 hours.

    You can learn a lot on the core, but there's unseen wonders in the corollaries. In any case, corollaries remain corollaries.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ummon View Post
    You can learn a lot on the core, but there's unseen wonders in the corollaries. In any case, corollaries remain corollaries.
    The effect that it seeks can be achieved through many different sources not just buddhism, even within buddhism there are so many schools with vastly different teachings that have evolved over the last few thousand years. So yes there might be hidden gems that can be uncovered through intensive study but to say that buddhism on the whole is esoteric.

    Studying it is worthwhile, thats is a statement I could get behind.

    Peter

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    Default Re: Yes, I have a 6-page paper on Buddhism due in 4 hours.

    All I need is the Bibliography and Works cited. Once I get that down, I'm HOME FREE BABAY.

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