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    Default The Number 23

    This is not a thread about Jim Carrey's film, it's about what it's about.
    I leave my warning that I don't believe in this, but there's a curious fact in all this.


    The Discordianism is, basically, putting the number 23 in everything.

    "The "23 Enigma" is the Discordian belief that all events are connected to the number 23, given enough ingenuity on the part of the interpreter. It can be seen in Robert Anton Wilson and Robert Shea's Illuminatus! trilogy (there called the "23/17 phenomenon"), Wilson's Cosmic Trigger I: The Final Secret of the Illuminati (there called "The Law of 23s" and "The 23 Enigma"), Arthur Koestler's Challenge of Chance, as well as the Principia Discordia. In these works, 23 is considered either lucky, unlucky, sacred to the goddess Eris, sinister, sacred to the unholy gods of the Cthulhu Mythos, or strange. Discordians regard this as a corollary of the Law of Fives. As with most numerological claims, the 23 enigma can be viewed as an example of apophenia, selection bias, and confirmation bias. In interviews, Wilson has acknowledged the self-fulfilling nature of the 23 enigma, implying that the real value of the Laws of Fives and Twenty-threes lies in their demonstration of the mind's power to perceive "truth" in nearly anything. In the Illuminatus! Trilogy, he expresses the same view: that one can find a numerological significance to anything, provided sufficient cleverness."

    - Franklin Delano Roosevelt has 23 letters.
    - The address of the Freemasons lodge in Stafford, England is 23 Jaol Rd. In New York it is on 23rd street.
    - The number of letters in George Herbert Walker Bush and William Jefferson Clinton is 23.
    - The phrase "this is a big load of rubbish" has exactly 23 letters.
    - 9/11/2001. add 9+11+2+1=23.
    - bonnie & clyde were killed on may 23.
    - The 2007 film The Number 23 starring Jim Carrey is the story of a man becoming obsessed with the number 23 after he reads a book of the same title that seems to be about his life. Jim Carrey named his production company JC23.
    - "But if ye will not do so, behold, ye have sinned against the LORD: and be sure your sin will find you out." 32:23.
    - 2:3=0,666

    My name, Filipe Dumas Diniz Martins, has 23 letters.
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    Default Re: The Number 23

    Pfft, everybody knows that the only number that really means anything is 42...

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    Default Re: The Number 23

    Quote Originally Posted by Kythras View Post
    Pfft, everybody knows that the only number that really means anything is 42...
    The real best number is 666

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    Default Re: The Number 23

    Dear Kythras,

    Despite your satanic beliefs, I presume that you know that numbers are nothing but numbers. There is no meaning behind them. Just curiosities.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Real View Post
    Dear Kythras,

    Despite your satanic beliefs, I presume that you know that numbers are nothing but numbers. There is no meaning behind them. Just curiosities.

    Real
    Hahahahahaha

    First of all, I'm not a satanist...

    Second of all, read The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy...

    That's all I got...

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    Default Re: The Number 23

    The Tropic of Cancer is 23,5º South. The Tropic of Capricorn is 23,5º North. The Earth has an inclination of 23,5º. 2 plus 3 equals 5.

    23x23=529. 666-529=137. In the year 137, His Holiness the Pope Telesphorus died. The tradition of Christmas midnight masses, the celebration of Easter on Sundays, the keeping of a seven-week Lent before Easter and the singing of the Gloria are usually attributed to his pontificate, but many historians doubt that such attributions are accurate.

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    4+8+15+16+23+42=numbers on a show that mean absolutely nothing.

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    Default Re: The Number 23

    Let me guess.... Lost?

    Numbers have no meaning at all. They're a human concept. They can mean anything at all, and at the same time... they mean nothing. We give them a meaning.

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    Slighty off-topic but arn't there '7' hoyl numbers in science (e.g. isn't some force 7 of a unit of something which allows nuclear fusion in starts to create heavier elements. Although numbers don't have any 'conspiracy' significance, I would argue that they still can be used to show how the universe works.

    Also, 42 is the numbers of my birthday (22/08/92) added up, divided by two, minus 19. Am I the overlord of the universe... I don't think so.

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    My name plus one is 23 letters. 23 divided by one is 23! Spooky!

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    6x9=42

    I thought everyone knew this.
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    The only number I hold dear is 87.

    Besides that I always seem to find 911 somewhere.

    It's all about human subcontious.

    RIght now I can find 911 in 8 different spots sitting here.

    I'm pretty sure if I looked I could find 15.

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    I have always held Erisian beliefs in some of my aspects - discordianism really falls apart unless you really embrace many assumptions

    stick to anarchism - read this
    http://www.amazon.com/No-Gods-Master...8068485&sr=1-1

    then read from theory to practice - anarchism is not what you think
    http://www.amazon.com/Anarchism-Theo...8068485&sr=1-1
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    Default Re: The Number 23

    I think 666 is an interesting number because it is the only number in Roman Numerals done from most to least (involving the letters it requires, of course.)

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    How about the number 18.

    In Hebrew the number 18 is "spelled" by the word Ch'ai, which means Life.
    But, take 9/11, remake it into 19-1=18!!!!! OMG!!! THIS IS PROOF DA JEWZ HIT THE TRADE CENTER!!!

    On a lighter note, whenever I got to Zaxby's (those from the South will know what I'm talkin' about), I get a combo w/ a drink that, with tax, comes out to $6.66. Most people won't even finish the number, just tell me it's like $6.67!
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