The Hardcoded List

[Jojo00182]

Up to this day I am still baffled what the difference could be - there is nothing in the packed files of a DLC that referenced the number of possible fleets.

There is the possibility that Steam will allow 4 fleets while disk doesn't, I seem to recall a recent discussion that pointed that way.

It doesnt matter wether its steam or not and there is nothing in the files, its the game's code that looks at the currently active modfolder-name.

[Gigantus]

Doesn't look like I'm going to be able to get it up and running again. One simple move of a folder and all hell broke loose. I had to uninstall MTW2 and Steam and reinstall both and then make a kingdoms.exe just to get the regular MTW2 game and mods to launch on Steam. Wow.

I tried the recent SS 6.4 install by Gigantus, but it only created an ss6.3 folder in my mods folder and there is no .exe or launcher for it. I tried different things from the Steam community, but they all failed. This is probably the third or fourth time a major mod I worked on died because of OS upgrades, Steam junk, no more CD trays, etc. etc.

The thing that baffles me the most is that the only changes that occur in a mod are all in the data folder, so why not just make that a Zip file and have it switched out with the original data folder? Not one Mod Manager or Mod Manager Fixer or whatever ever worked for me because they were just too complicated. Oh well.

'Switching out' i snot supported - hence the 'mods' directory apporach. The original files will be read if they are not provided by the mod, this guaranteed by the file_first setting: first the mod's files get checked, then the unpacked files in the default directory (world directory by default, unpacked files), then the content of the pack files.
And it does seem to be an issue of your AV being over zealous as we established in another discussion.

It doesnt matter wether its steam or not and there is nothing in the files, its the game's code that looks at the currently active modfolder-name.

That's totally weird: "if dlc mod name then 4 fleets, else 3".

[AnthoniusII]

Has anyone mentioned the limit of model groups that have 0 in the end of their comments is 4.
Examples:
Shields0
Primaryactive0
primarypassive0
Secondaryactive0
Secondarypassive0
etc...The best thing you can do is to remove from all froups the 0 in the end exept those 4 that refer to weapons (primary and secondary ones).
Otherwise the game crashes.

[Nordlaender]

"And it does seem to be an issue of your AV being over zealous as we established in another discussion."

Thanks for your explanation of what might be happening. Back when I did the switch method, there were some other instructions that I had to follow I believe, but now I cannot remember them. I should have written them down.

I tried installing with my AV turned off completely and it only installed a little bit then showed that there was an error with some tiny little file in one of the desc_text folders. Sigh... Well, I can't fix that during an installation. I am going to uninstall almost everything and try again. Even utorrent will not open and give me the original installer, so I uninstalled utorrent. Whenever I do something, the computer or AV asks if I want to allow it to make changes to my computer, and I always click the yes box.

I just successfully installed your Bare Geomod and I'm thinking of turning it into the mod I had planned for SS 6.4. It worked very easily. I'm impressed!

[Nordlaender]

"That's totally weird: "if dlc mod name then 4 fleets, else 3".

Yeah, it is weird. If Gigantus' Bare Geomod only supports 3 trade fleets, I won't be upset. I'll just increase the value of trade goods.

[Lord Baal]

Once they announce med 2 remake we need to voice all this on their discord channel.

[Nordlaender]

Once they announce med 2 remake we need to voice all this on their discord channel.

Absolutely!

I just reinstalled SS 6.4 using Gigantus full install method and now I am limited to just TWO outgoing trade fleets despite the EDB allowing three!

There is also a hardcode limit of of 3 incoming fleets using this mod. I have verified that as well. My old method produced 4 incoming fleets and 4 outgoing.

I think that is quite reasonable for a huge city with Docklands.