Just a thought

**Vyktrius** · April 24, 2007, 03:07 AM

Since this mod is going to run off of the BI expansion, will it be possible to incorporate the barbarians ability to make a horde when your clan's last city is taken. Thought this may not be historically accurate, and may pose a few problems in the game, I personally find it to be a rather romantic concept. But certainly the ability of your clan to pick up and move on if necessary would be usefull. The way I see it, if your clans leaders aren't dead you shouldn't lose. I doubt that after losing their last bit of land any warlord would just roll over and accept his fate. I don't know thought. What do you think?

**Seijitai** · April 24, 2007, 03:53 AM

Hum, personnaly, I hated to see those barbarian punks coming in large bands in my Empire...

But the mod try to be the most historically accurate... So, for me, If you loose --> seppuku...

But that's only my opinion... We'll see what the boss think of it !

Anyway, thanks for your interest !

**Clone1710** · April 24, 2007, 08:38 AM

but it could be,that just a member of the clan run away and get the control of a rebel province and hold the clan alive

**Wundai** · April 24, 2007, 10:04 AM

or a bird could fly by and distract all army's who look at it

lol, alot of things could be reason for a horde, but in my opinion we should have a "faction destroyed" banner when the last land of that faction is gone

**Dermeister** · April 24, 2007, 10:38 AM

i think it would be cool to have a horde liek lets say ur dad dies in combat.. and you find out he died defending ur home castle.. what do u do?? you know ur next in line to lead id take what istill have of my loyal forces and restablish a clan and seek vengance and id be 1 pissed off samurai the kind with fire in his teeths and a dynomite up tehh wazzzooo and heads wouled roll.....

**Waztopia** · April 24, 2007, 11:12 AM

Why not just do what the original Shogun did and have Clans come back when a Province Rebels and an Heir is of age?? If that is possible. . .

Of course that would only work for the computer clans, just as in the Original.

Though unless it's a simple process it might be time consuming programming the possiblity of that happening for 21 different Clans.

**Seijitai** · April 24, 2007, 11:24 AM

Originally Posted by Waztopia

Why not just do what the original Shogun did and have Clans come back when a Province Rebels and an Heir is of age?? If that is possible. . .

Of course that would only work for the computer clans, just as in the Original.

Though unless it's a simple process it might be time consuming programming the possiblity of that happening for 21 different Clans.

Not a bad idea !

But don't know if it si possible with RTW (core limitations...) will ask

**Vyktrius** · April 24, 2007, 11:26 PM

Originally Posted by Waztopia

Why not just do what the original Shogun did and have Clans come back when a Province Rebels and an Heir is of age?? If that is possible. . .

Of course that would only work for the computer clans, just as in the Original.

Though unless it's a simple process it might be time consuming programming the possiblity of that happening for 21 different Clans.

That is a good idea. But let's assume that it would work for just a second. If you died, and you were reestablished sometime down the road, would the game simply excelerate to that point or would you have to watch turn after turn of computer play in the hopes that you do get the change to redeem yourself? It's seems a question with a somewhat obvious answer, but an important one to ask none the less. I mean, even if the lag between your downfall and eventual return is only a minute or two, it is still an annoying period that you have to wait to see if you've been given a second chance.

**Waztopia** · April 25, 2007, 04:57 AM

Well, when I said that I was talking about just the computer coming back like in the Original Shogun. It'd be an extra challenge if the other Clans could suddenly come back with a huge army in hand to try and restart their conquest of Japan.

I don't see how it could work for us aswell, I mean just playing Medieval Total War 2 and having to wait for my next turn is annoying enough without possibly having to wait HOURS for my Clan to come back.

Though since in the Original, Armies were only in the Province that was taken and when they lost it they were forced into the Castle if it was the last Province the clan had maybe the game should allow players to continue to play IF an Heir is alive and on the map somewhere. Just becuase you've lost your last town your Clan is still alive (I dunno if the game already works like this because I've never lost all my Towns before on the game >.<)

And one more thing, I guess the game has to have an end date which I'm not a fan of but it should atleast be 1615 which is when the offical Unification happened(By that I just mean the last big threat was removed). Though in the Original game it sometimes took till 1608 to take everything and that game was a lot smaller, everything was a lot cheaper to build and the enemies were stupid on every difficulty, lol. I dunno if Unification is gonna be very easy on the Mod, if at all possible. O_o

**Lawrence of Arabia** · May 01, 2007, 11:37 PM

I always thought those were called spies

**Eutopoi** · May 02, 2007, 03:13 PM

More than one year ago I have asked (not seriously...

) at Prometheus, a small folly... Inspiring me to this image I have asked him to implement a new animation for an unity (new) of samurai of elite (composed by few extraordinary men, bushi, the best, extremely expensive); ...practically he would have owed to modify the animation that we see when the unities of infantry are under the throwing of arrows, when they puts the shield in coverage: the unity of extraordinary samurai instead would have had to shake the katana under the throwing of arrows (the new animation

), to protect (increasing the points-wound to three would be had the sensation that some arrows is diverted...).
Yes... among the things that can be asked... I want to say... someone has dared ask this

.

[forgive my English

]

**Dermeister** · May 02, 2007, 06:30 PM

what r u saying? that they implemented it? that wouled be cool

**Lawrence of Arabia** · May 03, 2007, 12:11 PM

I think he's asking if they've considered it. I think it'd be kinda fictional but neat.

**Eutopoi** · May 03, 2007, 01:00 PM

No (excuse me for my bad language), I have asked at Prometheus to make this modification (animation), one year ago, but not seriously... however this animation would have been beautiful.

**Kagemusha** · May 03, 2007, 02:43 PM

Originally Posted by Eutopoi

No (excuse me for my bad language), I have asked at Prometheus to make this modification (animation), one year ago, but not seriously... even if it would be nice.

Im sorry,but Prometheus havent been active on the mod for about an year either and currently we cant do new animations.

**Vyktrius** · May 04, 2007, 03:31 AM

This mod doesn't have an animator. How sad. But tell me; what attempts have been made to get one. Have they all been passive or has anyone made any active attempts. I'm just asking, don't missinterpret the question.