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    Default Is psychology a science?

    Or do they just call it that?

    I had to write a paper on this topic, biggest waste of time ever.

    My answer: Does it matter? We have to take it to graduate anyway.

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    Default Re: Is psychology a science?

    Yes, it's the study of the human brain and how it works (as far as I know).

    Sociology though, that's not. It's a big waste of space. See below for a picture of a sociology degree:


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    Quote Originally Posted by chris_uk_83 View Post
    Yes, it's the study of the human brain and how it works (as far as I know).
    That would be neurology.
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    Default Re: Is psychology a science?

    Define science. If you ask if Psychology operates within the confines of the same principles that govern all scientific research and practice, the answer is yes.

    Furthermore because of the turbulent past (psychoanalysis, behaviourism) and because still in many countries pseudoscientists operate under the "psycho-something" mantle, the rules regarding practice and publication are more stringent than in most "humanities".

    Even the term humanities is misused since psychology for some time now has divorced from "soft" sciences.

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    Divorced from soft science and hasn't quite tied the knot with hard science. Perhaps we could consider it 'meduim soft-hard science with a sticky outside and a gooey inside'?
    1) The creation of the world is the most marvelous achievement imaginable.
    2) The merit of an achievement is the product of (a) its intrinsic quality, and (b) the ability of its creator.
    3) The greater the disability (or handicap) of the creator, the more impressive the achievement.
    4) The most formidable handicap for a creator would be non-existence.
    5) Therefore if we suppose that the universe is the product of an existent creator we can conceive a greater being — namely, one who created everything while not existing.
    6) Therefore, God does not exist.


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    It is the science of humanity, as my old professor was often heard to say.

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    A lot of problems there.

    1) it is becoming more and more scientific, yet there's one limit, the object of its study is in many ways unobservable: no mind infact can observe a mind.

    2) If we assume that the brain is the mind (which it may as well not be) then of course, in a lot of time we may come to know it: a lot of time because it is the single most complex item in the universe.

    3) The reasons why monism (ie. the theory that the brain is the mind) may be in the end disproved, are both physical and social. The Mind may be a social item, and/or a quantum item.

    4) We cannot say what will be discovered tomorrow: it is a very exciting moment infact.

    5) Many approaches are possible. Just to cite a few of the ones I have to eviscerate thoroughly, currently:

    Semiology
    Cognitive Linguistics
    Aspects of Hembriology
    Immunology
    Psychoanalytic theories
    Attempts of refutation of Psychoanalytic theories
    Neurophysiology
    Psychophysiology (they're two different things, in one the psychological phenomenon is the dependent variable, in the other the independent one).
    Neurobiology
    Clinical studies on Psychotherapies
    Logics
    Mathematics

    And I am omitting three essential items...

    Quote Originally Posted by TheKwas View Post
    Divorced from soft science and hasn't quite tied the knot with hard science. Perhaps we could consider it 'meduim soft-hard science with a sticky outside and a gooey inside'?
    You would be surprised by how hard-hard it can become!
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    And I am omitting three essential items...
    I'm guessing you're not a fan of behaviouralism? Or am I way off?
    1) The creation of the world is the most marvelous achievement imaginable.
    2) The merit of an achievement is the product of (a) its intrinsic quality, and (b) the ability of its creator.
    3) The greater the disability (or handicap) of the creator, the more impressive the achievement.
    4) The most formidable handicap for a creator would be non-existence.
    5) Therefore if we suppose that the universe is the product of an existent creator we can conceive a greater being — namely, one who created everything while not existing.
    6) Therefore, God does not exist.


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    I am a fan of good demonstrations and hard evidence, mostly. I also like powerful speculation based on fact, as a way to know where to search for the former two items.

    Behaviourism has no fans currently, whom I know of.
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    None? I knew it was essentially dead in the mainstream, but I thought it still had a small following.

    Either way I was just guessing what was missing.
    1) The creation of the world is the most marvelous achievement imaginable.
    2) The merit of an achievement is the product of (a) its intrinsic quality, and (b) the ability of its creator.
    3) The greater the disability (or handicap) of the creator, the more impressive the achievement.
    4) The most formidable handicap for a creator would be non-existence.
    5) Therefore if we suppose that the universe is the product of an existent creator we can conceive a greater being — namely, one who created everything while not existing.
    6) Therefore, God does not exist.


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    What is missing has nothing to do with psychology strictly speaking. It's a sort of secret.

    Behaviourism has been totally discredited by Chomski's work on language. Essentially, it cannot work.

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    Something to do with Universal Grammar I understand.

    Can you tell us the secrets?
    1) The creation of the world is the most marvelous achievement imaginable.
    2) The merit of an achievement is the product of (a) its intrinsic quality, and (b) the ability of its creator.
    3) The greater the disability (or handicap) of the creator, the more impressive the achievement.
    4) The most formidable handicap for a creator would be non-existence.
    5) Therefore if we suppose that the universe is the product of an existent creator we can conceive a greater being — namely, one who created everything while not existing.
    6) Therefore, God does not exist.


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    Quote Originally Posted by TheKwas View Post
    Something to do with Universal Grammar I understand.

    Can you tell us the secrets?
    No, that would be conditioning now...


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    Quote Originally Posted by TheKwas View Post
    Something to do with Universal Grammar I understand.

    Can you tell us the secrets?
    Nope, Universal Grammar is actually Chomski's blunder. He simply proved that we cannot study language as a reflex-type phenomenon.

    No, obviously, I won't tell you any secret. :wink:

    Quote Originally Posted by Sheep View Post
    That would be neurology.
    Neurosciences in general. Neurology is a medical speciality pertaining all forms of brain pathology, diagnostics, therapy, neurosurgery, etc.
    Last edited by Ummon; April 24, 2007 at 02:31 AM.

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