Rival Buddhist monks in hilarious fist fighting brawl

[removeduser_487563287433]

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/new...cle1685472.ece

We can finally stop arguing. Seems all religions do have the potential for violence. You can make this about the evil of Islam now.

[boofhead]

Ferrets lol but Buddhism has a very bloodthirsty and violent history. Ever heard of human skins pinned to monastery walls? Evil devil heads and murder?

Google it friend.

But I do agree, practitioners seem so peaceful today.

BTW thank goodness you got rid of the circling hawks/vultures sig - I thought I was suffering from an alcoholic withdrawal known as the "electric fleas".

[removeduser_487563287433]

Buddhism is always the religion brought up in response to me saying all religions have the potential of violence and I know nothing about it so I have nothing to say, even though I know I'm right.

[boofhead]

Buddhism is totally opposed to violence essentially, but historically, considering its long history, this has not always been the case. When you take the Buddhist message as an individual it is totally non-confrontational; but groupthink and the organisation of any religion can lead to many aberrations.

Oh funny post BTW if I may cut and edit

...I know nothing about it....even though I know I'm right.

Well you have made a point - Buddhism hasn't always been peaceful. But honestly, if you look at the precepts and instructions of Buddha, there is nothing violent in it.

Blame human nature, not a concept.

[removeduser_487563287433]

Often I know nothing except I am being right. Works for me.

[Captain Arrrgh!]

Ha ha, brothers, we must remember that Buddhism is not a relgion, exactly, but a practise, with a very deliberate goal. It is people who feel a need to add a gold icon, a mantra, a dispute about how to place your pinky toe. Exactly, Boof, it is our own foolishness that creates these ailments, not the concept.

[boofhead]

So the question arises: if a mere human utters a concept which, when examined, cannot be faulted....should it be condoned considering the fact that humans will never honour said concept?

[Sheep]

So the question arises: if a mere human utters a concept which, when examined, cannot be faulted....should it be condoned considering the fact that humans will never honour said concept?

Why wouldn't it be condoned?

[Captain Arrrgh!]

Well...considering a human concieved of the concept in the first place, there is always the chance that still more humans will understand the concept at it's original intent.
"If you feed a cow water, you get milk. If you feed a snake water, you get venom."
I hold out for the very, very few truthseekers. We should almost transfer this over to the Altered States thread.

[boofhead]

That is my point...to me 'condoning' something is acknowledging it.....everything ever 'condoned' until now has been torn apart, demeaned or blatantly destroyed by those to whom it does not suit.

[removeduser_487563287433]

Humans can achieve pretty much anything, even it is beyond the grasp of most.

[boofhead]

Humans can achieve pretty much anything, even it is beyond the grasp of most.

Indeed true. That is our ability. Kudos.

[leeho730]

Heck, I like this news! It would have been quite interesting, amusing to watch. Is there any youtube video for it?


The marchers, who said that they were from southern Vietnam, were confronted by another band of six monks outside a Buddhist temple. The groups clashed in a fist fight and some of the protesters tossed water bottles at their opponents. One monk was injured in the brawl.


I think Shi'ite and Sunni Muslims, Catholics and Protestants should fight like this, fist fight instead of fire fight and watter bottles (I prefer water balloons) instead of bombs.
I mean heck, let's arm our soldiers with super soakers, paintball shooters and water balloons! Wars wouldn't be that bad, would it?

Humans can achieve pretty much anything, even it is beyond the grasp of most.

forever young, i want to be forever young
do you really want to live forever,
forever, forever...

One of my weird dream: to become the coolest pimp ever walked on Earth (no, not the rapper type, real old-fashioned pimp).

[Irishman]

The only difference between this violence and the violence in islam and christianity is that there is no way to justify their behavior using the teachings. These Monks were not acting on the path and no doubt regret their actions. This is human nature.

The problem occurs when a religion can justify murder or harsh punishment (Leviticus anyone?). That is the difference, this was a fistfight on the street which no Buddhist dharma or any other teaching supports.

The only way a conflict can be seen to be caused by a religion (and not human nature) is if the religion (or philosophy in this case) justifies the action. Buddhism is a completely pacifist philosophy and does not condone these actions.

People need to look more closely at what a religion/philosophy teaches rather than what some young kids do in anger at each other.

[Ummon]

It's quite difficult to justify Christian violence using teachings as well. I would even say impossible, but that's a debate on semantics.

Anyway, monks are human beings, therefore fallible.

[LSJ]

The difference between Islamic violence and Buddhist violence: the Muslims can find lines in the Qu'ran to back them up, through interpretation. Buddhists can't find very much written by Buddha that allows that. But sometimes they try hard anyway. The Buddhists in Thailand have a violent history of abuse against women. Even though some Buddhists, like the Zen and Ch'an treat women as equal to men, the Theravadans often interpret Buddha not allowing women into the Sangha as though Buddha is saying women are unfit for religion and thus lesser than men.
The Ch'an see it as Buddha realized that having women around the monks would distract them from clearing their mind. Then the Buddha created a sangha division for women. But the Theravadans don't seem to recognize that. Similar problems to Islam, but less publicized, because they aren't killing westerners, only beating women and occasionally burning a mosque or two.

[RZZZA]

buddhists are non violent? Where did anyone get that notion?


Shaolin Monks created their own form of martial art.

[Ummon]

There are many forms of violence. The matter would deserve a separate discussion.

[RZZZA]

Yeah, if muslim militants simply created a form of martial art but vowed to never use it...instead of bombing and shooting people...I'd have more respect for them.

Discipline doesn't exist in this world anymore.

[mrjesushat]

Sweet. I checked the post hoping for some pictures of bad-ass kung fu, and all I got was a monk looking pissed off, holding onto another monk's robe-toga-mantle thingy.

We all do realize, of course, that this is simply an effort by Islamic propagandists to make Buddhism look bad, right? They probably figure that they can turn the attention of Christianity toward Buddhists for a while, and take the pressure off of themselves.

Well, I'm off to use the New Testament to justify atrocities against the enemies of Democracy.

Peace Out!