the Anti European thread

[Gelgoog]

since we have so many anti american threads going id thought id make the playing fields even.

why europeans are annoying

- they like to talk about how civilized and peaceloving they are, yet their long and bitter feuds outlast even those held in the dixie south.

-their long time hatred and disdain for the jews is still present, but now after having killed off a large percentage of them, they must find another scape goat for their socialism gone bad and turn to america.

- they can't seem to say thankyou, you give and give and give, and they stab you in the back at the first sign of weakness ( im looking at you france)

-they often talk about american imperialism, but seem to forget all the damage they've done in the past to the middle east, africa and south america. so that when the rest of the world comes in to clean up the mess, they get blamed for the ****** conditions and trying to help.


( i dont really believe a lot of this, but these are some general sentiments i often hear, and sometimes keep, but mainly this is to get the thread going.
come on yanks, its payback time).

[Kythras]

-their long time hatred and disdain for the jews is still present, but now after having killed off a large percentage of them, they must find another scape goat for their socialism gone bad and turn to america.

Wow, that'll go down well...

[sdjenkyn]

You mean Americans actually recognize they have an European counterpart ? Im freakin shocked.

[Thanatos]

Not all of us Yanks are like the stereotypical image that seems to be prevaling amongst you Europeans.

[hellheaven1987]

I believe you mean mainly Western Europe such as France and Italy. However, the only Europe annoyed country is France. The rests are rather America's pets or EU's pets (some are Russia's).

I am not sure why France is anti-America, one theory I heard is French government did not want to be America's pet because of their great history, so they tried to unite all Europe (EU) and "independant" from US. The only country that rejected this idea is UK, which decided to follow US no matter what.

[boofhead]

Yes Europeans are not perfect.

They are giving up national sovereignty to a bunch of self-seeking beaurocratic legislators and leftist moralists (the EU).

They are giving their heritage and security away to immigrants, many of whom despise them, and all in the name of some leftist-pinko-lovetheworld rubbish. This shows utter, pathetic weakness. The rational voices are drowned out by the PC hystericals, and nobody has the balls to knock those traitors in their place.

Apart from that, Europe is cool

[Gelgoog]

Yes Europeans are not perfect.

They are giving up national sovereignty to a bunch of self-seeking beaurocratic legislators and leftist moralists (the EU).

They are giving their heritage and security away to immigrants, many of whom despise them, and all in the name of some leftist-pinko-lovetheworld rubbish. This shows utter, pathetic weakness. The rational voices are drowned out by the PC hystericals, and nobody has the balls to knock those traitors in their place.

Apart from that, Europe is cool

so basically the european populist are being appeasers to their governments efforts to have more of a strangle hold over them. hmm if this doesnt smell like a step backwards. " yeah caesar, please take away our rights in order to protect us more"

[RZZZA]

Britain isnt really europe though...britain is just britain, theyre a force unto themselves. Theyre not connected to the mainland hence they aint europe, these are my rules and I get to make them up...

secondly, is it really fair to compare the U.S. to all of europe? You're comparing one country to like a dozen. why?

Thirdly, Americans have more important things to worry about than Europe. Europeans shouldnt feel bad about that, its actually a blessing that Americans care so little about europe outside of vacations, fashion and food. I can only guess that after 2 world war we just got sick of you already.

Fourthly, France is the only country to ever give us a present. They should be loved by americans for that, and that alone. A country gives another country a present, that my friend is worth more than any tired old French joke or cliche. And we actually liked their present, its not like we stuck it in Alaska or something, which is america's attic. No, we put it out there all in front, prominent and proud, le statue liberte.

[Gelgoog]

Fourthly, France is the only country to ever give us a present. They should be loved by americans for that, and that alone. A country gives another country a present, that my friend is worth more than any tired old French joke or cliche. And we actually liked their present, its not like we stuck it in Alaska or something, which is america's attic. No, we put it out there all in front, prominent and proud, le statue liberte.

um we did give them a gift. its called the framework of modern democracy.

* on a side note, we didnt gift them the Guillotine or all that craziness, thats on on their "heads".

[Erik]

Fourthly, France is the only country to ever give us a present. They should be loved by americans for that, and that alone.

The Netherlands never gave America any presents because giving things for free goes against Dutch culture.

But we did finance your little war for independence.
Without the Dutch, you Americans would all be be speaking English

[Skyler]

Without the Dutch, you Americans would all be be speaking English

Food for thought.

[RZZZA]

ROFL

Say that to any european and thats the reaction you get. Of course I agree with you...the american revolution influenced europe greatly, but I dont think any european would be caught dead admitting that.

Thats not really a gift though, more like an unintended sideaffect

[Gelgoog]

ROFL

Say that to any european and thats the reaction you get. Of course I agree with you...the american revolution influenced europe greatly, but I dont think any european would be caught dead admitting that.

Thats not really a gift though, more like an unintended sideaffect

yea i know, they are more likely to blame us for taking away their monarchies and being told what to do, how to do it and how being forced to enter into open societies without rigid class structures.

modern euro: " uhg those darn americans, we used to be able to work 80 hour weeks in dark coal mines for our entire lives dreaming of one day being able to choose our profession and dreaming of being a nobile for a day, now thanks to them i have to go to this schooling and make something of myself, gosh stupid americans."

[boofhead]

The French seem to be totally ungrateful for the US's kick-arse (and very costly) liberation of their own land 1944-5 and crushing of Germany (with their allies).

I cannot understand this ungrateful spitefulness at all. I would have thought a bond of alliance would have been forged which would last for centuries.

A warning to all nations of the world - should France ever be occupied by ruthless tyrants or occupiers again.....do not help them, because they will not help you in return. Just drop leaflets telling the populace "Nerny Nerny Nerny. No Uncle Sam this time you backstabbers!"

Having said that I don't see this as necessarily a European trait. I do believe that the Germans have a better relationship with the US (their destroyers) than the French.

WTF?

I can only blame leftist-socialist brainwashing and propoganda.

[Gelgoog]

Having said that I don't see this as necessarily a European trait. I do believe that the Germans have a better relationship with the US (their destroyers) than the French.

WTF?

I can only blame leftist-socialist brainwashing and propoganda.

germans like us somewhat because well.
-they love bluejeans
-our gift of rock and metal. ( total death metal now, but who doesnt remember 99 luftballons)
- our wonderful david hasslehoff ( you know germany if we dont get some respect, we may just take him away from you).
- and our cultural understanding of the german people evident in our importation of great shows like Sprockets (now touch my monkey).

[Tiwaz]

The French seem to be totally ungrateful for the US's kick-arse (and very costly) liberation of their own land 1944-5 and crushing of Germany (with their allies).

I cannot understand this ungrateful spitefulness at all. I would have thought a bond of alliance would have been forged which would last for centuries.

A warning to all nations of the world - should France ever be occupied by ruthless tyrants or occupiers again.....do not help them, because they will not help you in return. Just drop leaflets telling the populace "Nerny Nerny Nerny. No Uncle Sam this time you backstabbers!"

Having said that I don't see this as necessarily a European trait. I do believe that the Germans have a better relationship with the US (their destroyers) than the French.

WTF?

I can only blame leftist-socialist brainwashing and propoganda.

Riight.

Of course those damn frogs had to forget that USA and ONLY USA was there to help them get their country back. That is, after they stayed out of fight for what... 2-3 years?

Free French troops never existed, they are just rumour. British soldiers never left their island. Canadians were never there. It was all USA, USA, USA.

Perhaps you could say that US support in WW2 was somewhere along lines of repaying the debt from incident where french were decisive in helping kick out british from certain colonies.

[Gelgoog]

Riight.

Of course those damn frogs had to forget that USA and ONLY USA was there to help them get their country back. That is, after they stayed out of fight for what... 2-3 years?

Free French troops never existed, they are just rumour. British soldiers never left their island. Canadians were never there. It was all USA, USA, USA.

Perhaps you could say that US support in WW2 was somewhere along lines of repaying the debt from incident where french were decisive in helping kick out british from certain colonies.

first of all it wasnt our way in the beginning, we got dragged in Again! because european appeasement allowed hitler to gobble up to much territory before the bubble of appeasement for pease was burst when he invaded poland. we were just on the other side of the ocean shaking our heads saying " will they ever learn".

also our debt to france was payed back when 120,00 US soldiers gave their lives to liberate france from germany in the first world war. exactly how many french lives were lost in america? oh and fighting the english in the indies and back in europe doesnt exactly count, as those had nothing to do with us.

[boofhead]

Riight.

Of course those damn frogs had to forget that USA and ONLY USA was there to help them get their country back. That is, after they stayed out of fight for what... 2-3 years?

Free French troops never existed, they are just rumour. British soldiers never left their island. Canadians were never there. It was all USA, USA, USA.

Perhaps you could say that US support in WW2 was somewhere along lines of repaying the debt from incident where french were decisive in helping kick out british from certain colonies.

My first line I said "and their allies" but the thread is about US v EU, not Canada or Australia or NZ or UK or whoever.

I never said either there were no Free French or partisans. They did good work, but could never have liberated France alone, nor I think could the British or Canadians. Without the US France would not have been liberated then.

Riiiight yourself.

[Gelgoog]

My first line I said "and their allies" but the thread is about US v EU, not Canada or Australia or NZ or UK or whoever.

actually like the anti american thread. everyone is welcome to jump in and bash europe as americans arent the only ones with greivences. so its not specifically the us vs europe.

[RZZZA]

Thats interesting boofhead, can the break of friendship between France and the U.S. be traced back to one exact moment?: When Charles De Gaulle held a parade of victory after the nazis were expunged from paris, his speech was a turning point for ill feelings, at least from the american perspective. the following is an excerpt from his speech:

""Paris - liberated by itself, liberated by its people, with the support of the armies of France, with the backing of the whole of France, of the true France, of eternal France."

Later in the speech he made only a passing mention of the Allies - and the myth of self-liberation would become the moral basis of de Gaulle's leadership of the post-war republic."

Self-liberation? They wish....