Historical Formations in SPQR

**Marcus Tullius Cicero** · April 13, 2007, 04:00 PM

Hi all i tried to reinact some of Hannibals battles against rome on various custom battkes using his tactics such as the "Crescent" or "Bow"

however they do not seem to work as however often i try my infantry core always routs because my cavalry seems to do little against them in their famous
rear charge

ps love the mod and am eager for 6.3!!

**Darius_D** · April 16, 2007, 04:10 PM

This is difficult - if AI plays Romans they are not disciplined and this is main problem.
However it is possible to engage legion from the front by light inf, pull them ahead and then smash by heavy infantry from the sides. If only your general is multi-star commander of high bonus when fighting against Romans (preferably named Hannibal...)
BTW, formations for Carthaginians could be improved.

**Marcus Tullius Cicero** · April 17, 2007, 01:19 AM

thanks for the advice Darius D ill try that!!

**-|I_L|-Empire** · April 17, 2007, 02:09 PM

Yea, this is a good MOD and great when you play as Romans, but unfortunately there isn't a script yet that creates discipline and over rights Army formations and AI tactics for just the Romans, make them fight like real romans and not just like Barbarian Factions.

**Garnier** · April 17, 2007, 02:27 PM

Well the game is made to be played as rome.

**Marcus Tullius Cicero** · April 17, 2007, 03:14 PM

i no SPQR was only really to be played as rome but i dont seem to be anything but rome!

the one time i try to be another faction-Carthage-and try to still be historical, i cannot and therefore i give up lol

back to the legions for me then and so i shall continue my rome campaign and proceed with my invasion of Corsica

thanx for the help guys

**el_dude** · April 17, 2007, 06:44 PM

lol why would you even want to play as anyone else?

**Darius_D** · April 18, 2007, 04:15 PM

Originally Posted by el_dude

lol why would you even want to play as anyone else?

Greek or Macedonian style of warfare is great. Same for Hannibal.
Imagine you are surrounded by legions in Italy, cut off from reinforcements, victorious but still far from breaking Roman defence. Unless you are heroic or clear in your victories - the Romans gets stronger... So what tactics and formation would you apply to win against Roman pila, shields and spears?

**24Gamer** · April 18, 2007, 06:42 AM

Originally Posted by Lucillus Gallica

back to the legions for me then and so i shall continue my rome campaign and proceed with my invasion of Corsica

You cannot invade corsica

**Marcus Tullius Cicero** · April 18, 2007, 11:32 AM

lol

i forgot the name of the one below it with Carali in (sardinia??)

**Konig** · April 18, 2007, 06:30 PM

don't think the romans get a chance to get too strong if controlled by the AI... I'd love to see a cannae reenactment in SPQR though!

**MasterAdnin** · April 20, 2007, 08:16 AM

If you wish to reenact Hannibals famous battle of Canae, then what you must do is set your formation up as so:

-Iberian infantry in the center on guard mode
-Libyan spearmen or Sacred Band on the flanks with Phalanx off and aggressive stance
-Missle Cavalry coupled with Heavy Cavalry to the flanks, then smash into the back
-Instead of Archers, have Javilen men

Salaam,
Adnan

**Marcus Tullius Cicero** · April 20, 2007, 12:00 PM

thanx master adnin until now i was using archers not javelin men

so thanx for the historical correction- i confess i know little....

yes it works better now since i reinstalled and repatched the game it seems that i must have had some file changed somewhere...

the cavalry rear charge now works to an astounding effect when timed right and the iberian centre now longer collapses under roman might!!!

Personally tho i love rome too much to change to any other faction in a campaign, but i like a bit more variety in custom battles