AI sitting on wads of cash?

[Redigo]

I'm running 2.2 on the unofficial patch. In a Venice campaign circa 1120, I've noticed that there are 8-9 factions sitting on more than 100,000 in cash; some are over 250,000. This gets very annoying when you wipe out all resistance in a provice only to face a merc army the next turn. Is this normal? How could the AI possibly have that much cash?

edit: Should mention that I'm playing H/H.

[Lusted]

Sounds like the ai isn't spending its money as much, or that the changes made to merchants by 1.2 are making them too overpowered.

[HippyCHimp]

Sounds like the ai isn't spending its money as much, or that the changes made to merchants by 1.2 are making them too overpowered.

I'm seeing the same thing in 2.1. But, it's been a suprisingly peaceful campaign so far. approx 50 turns in and aside from some squabbles in the opening turns europe's been at peace pretty much the whole game. That might explain why I'm in 16th place economy-wise and HRE's sitting on ~300k :O

(oh, my first post, btw... love your mod, Lusted)

[Garnier]

I suggest making more recruitment slots in castles. It makes better AI armies of course, and more of them! And its a way for them to spend their cash.

[Lusted]

There are already more recruitment slots in castles than vanilla.

[Garnier]

I still play with more than default LTC has, with good results.

[Redigo]

Interesting. On a side note, I've been trying to exploit merchants but the agent limit is still 1 even with 10 provinces. Is the limit tied to the number of markets?

[FooDog]

Interesting. On a side note, I've been trying to exploit merchants but the agent limit is still 1 even with 10 provinces. Is the limit tied to the number of markets?

The difference is that in vanilla you get a merchant slot for every level of market you build, including the grain exchange. In LTC merchant slot get added at the second level. That means you have to pump it up to lvl2, and your initial merchant counts towards to quota.

[Redigo]

The difference is that in vanilla you get a merchant slot for every level of market you build, including the grain exchange. In LTC merchant slot get added at the second level. That means you have to pump it up to lvl2, and your initial merchant counts towards to quota.

Ah, that explains it. Thanks.

[Lusted]

Yes it is.

[FooDog]

Same thing here. I'm about 10-15 turn in on a new campaign [VH/VH] and several AI factions are sitting on 50k or more. I've done my best so far to put some of that in my pockets with the help of diplomats, but it's still pretty crazy. I've got four cities and over 30k in cash.

Is it the king's purse that has spun out of control? With this much money floating around, there is no incentive to go for the richer provinces and merc's are staple troops everywhere.

[Lusted]

No it's not the Kings Purse, it shouldn't be the money script either as i've reduced the boost down a lot.

[notger]

As far as I recall, the money script only tends to step in, when the treasure of a AI faction drops below a certain point. Am I right there?
If I am right, then the money script cannot be the reason for the super-rich AI.

In my current campaign, the AI was also very very rich but now I see larger armies than mine around and I guess the AI just needs some time to get the opportunity to spend something. Venice is pushing hard with one full stack each round. I haven't checked their balance now, but I suppose it has dropped. But with my 25k (turn ~30) I am one of the poorest factions out there. Even poorer than Portugal!

[Douchebag]

How do you find out, how much money your AI has?

[Redigo]

How do you find out, how much money your AI has?

The faction rankings scroll.

[Garnier]

I personally think there is a little too much money in this game. Maybe its just me but I don't like having tons of men everywhere. In MTW1, your income was far lower and the prices were not lower. I guess in that game all your men fought in each battle while in M2TW you have to fight tons of smaller battles...

[Lionel-Richie]

In my Egyptian campaign I have 60,000+ and I am 15th or 16th financially...I'm worried that I'll start seeing ginormous amounts of stacks flooding the world.

The only reason Turks are last place is because they somehow got vassal'd by the Byzantines like 10 turns in.

[Klink]

I changed the recruitment slots of castles to 2/3/5/7/9 in order of ascending levels. Works quite well, it's pumping out armies now.

[notger]

Yes, you will.
I am fighting Venice as Sicily right now and I have to beat of a full stack every round. And Venice only has five or six provinces!

I like the aggressiveness of the AI and I like that the AI finally has the opportunity to build decent armies. But one full stack every round tends to get boring after a while. The battles lose their decisive touch.

[Cuahchiqueh]

See in my campaign England has over 320,000 and they've only taken one settlement, On the other hand Egypt and HRE are being really agressive.