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    Lets put things in perspective:
    Easter is not from the Bible: The Gospels were written decades after Jesus' death, yet not once do we find a hint of an Easter celebration. Easter wasn't practiced by the apostles. So where does it come from?

    Easter originates with the Chaldean (Babylonian) goddess Astarte or Ishtar. She is also mentioned in the Bible. The festival of Pasch (Passover) held by Christians in post-apostolic times was a continuation of the Jewish feast. From this Pasch the pagan festival of Easter was quite distinct and was introduced in Western religion as part of an attempt to adopt pagan festivals into Christianity.

    Early Christians continued to observe a variation of Passover feast. Easter was very different from the OT Passover and the Passover of the NT. Again, Easter was a pagan festival, originating in the worship of other gods, and was introduced much later into an apostate Christianity in an attempt to make such festivals acceptable.

    Easter Eggs and the Rabbit:
    Easter eggs are in actuality a pagan symbol and so is the Rabbit. The eggs and the rabbit were symbols of fertility. Ancient Egypt and Persia would exchange decorated eggs at the spring equinox, the beginning of their new year. This tradition spread to the Near East and became adopted by early Christians, thus becoming a religious symbol.

    With the backing of the Roman Empire under Constantine in 325, Easter became a sacred celebration that continues today.

    Easter does not accurately represent Jesus Christ's suffering, death and resurrection, though it appears to do so to those who blindly accept religious tradition.

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    The same thing could be said about the winter solstice being changed to christmas =x


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    Quote Originally Posted by Plutarch View Post
    The same thing could be said about the winter solstice being changed to christmas =x
    Exactly. Christianity has been completely compromised by paganism. That's not the real birthday of Jesus. Christmas is on the Feast of Saturnilia. Coincidence? I think not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DariusEG View Post
    Exactly. Christianity has been completely compromised by paganism. That's not the real birthday of Jesus. Christmas is on the Feast of Saturnilia. Coincidence? I think not.
    How can it be "completely compromised"? How can you state what is correct of not?
    It's a known fact that Christianity and specifically the Catholic Church as used syncretism as a binding force for their faithful; all religions have done such in different degrees, to pass judgement solely based on that is, in my opinion, a one sided argument.
    To quote:

    Syncretism in Christianity

    Nascent Christianity appears to have incorporated many Jewish and pagan cultural elements, through a process of "Christianization" or "baptizing" them to conform with Christian belief and principles, at least partially, whilst discarding theologically or morally incompatible elements.
    Note for example the strong connection between the thought of St. Augustine and Neoplatonic thought; and St. Thomas Aquinas' many citations of "The Philosopher" (Aristotle). Many scholars agree with this syncretism in principle, though they may tend to label any specific example as "controversial". Medieval scholasticism engaged in prolonged and bitter debate over the place of pre-Christian classicism within the official Church teachings.
    Open Theists (a subset of Protestant Evangelicals) assert that Christianity by the 3rd and 4th centuries had incorporated Greek Philosophy into its understanding of God.

    Syncretism did not play a role when Christianity split into eastern and western rites during the Great Schism. It became involved however with the rifts of the Protestant Reformation, with Desiderius Erasmus's readings of Plutarch.

    In 1615 David Pareus of Heidelberg urged Christians to a "pious syncretism"[citation needed] in opposing the Antichrist, but few 17th-century Protestants discussed the compromises that might affect a reconciliation with the Catholic Church: Johann Hülsemann, Johann Georg Dorsche and Abraham Calovius (1612-1685) opposed the Lutheran Georg Calisen "Calixtus" (1586-1656) of the University of Helmstedt for his "syncretism".
    (See: Syncretistic Strife.)

    The modern celebrations of Christmas (as celebrated in the northern European tradition, originating from pagan Yule holidays), Easter (as celebrated in the eastern European tradition, with the incorporation of spring fertility rites) and Halloween exemplify details of Christian/pagan syncretism.
    Earlier, the elevation of Christmas as an important holiday largely grew out of a need to replace the Saturnalia, a popular December festival of the Roman Empire.

    Roman Catholicism in Central and South America has integrated a number of elements derived from indigenous and slave cultures in those areas (see the Caribbean and modern sections); while many African Initiated Churches demonstrate an integration of Christian and traditional African beliefs.
    In Asia the revolutionary movements of Taiping (19th-century China) and God's Army (Karen in the 1990s) have blended Christianity and traditional beliefs.
    Catholic apologists nonetheless often argue against "cafeteria Catholicism", or the act of "picking and choosing" what one wants to believe or practice.

    One can contrast Christian syncretism with contextualization or inculturation, the practice of making Christianity relevant to a culture.


    The Syncretistic Strife of the 17th century


    The phrase "Syncretistic Strife" may refer to the theological quarrel provoked by the efforts of Georg Calixt and his supporters to secure a basis on which the Lutherans could make overtures to the Roman Catholic and the Reformed Churches. It lasted from 1640 to 1686.
    Calixt, a professor at Helmstedt, had through his travels in England, the Netherlands, Italy, and France, through his acquaintance with the different Churches and their representatives, and through his extensive study, developed a more friendly attitude towards the different religious bodies than the majority of his contemporary Lutheran theologians.
    While the latter firmly adhered to the "pure doctrine", Calixt tended not to regard doctrine as the one thing necessary for a Christian, while in doctrine itself he did not regard everything as equally certain and important. Consequently, he advocated unity between those who agreed on the fundamental minimum, with liberty as to all less fundamental points.
    In regard to Catholicism, he would have (as Melanchthon once would have) conceded to the pope a primacy human in origin, and he also admitted that one might call the Mass a sacrifice.

    On the side of Calixt stood the theological faculties of Helmstedt, Rinteln, and Königsberg; opposed to him stood those of Leipzig, Jena, Strasburg, Giessen, Marburg, and Greifswald.
    Abraham Calov in especial opposed Calixt. The Elector of Saxony, for political reasons, opponsed the Reformed Church, because the other two secular electors (Palatine and Brandenburg) were "reformed", and were getting more and more the advantage of him. In 1649 he sent to the three dukes of Brunswick, who maintained Helmstedt as their common university, a communication in which he voiced all the objections of his Lutheran professors, and complained that Calixt wished to extract the elements of truth from all religions, fuse all into an entirely new religion, and so provoke a violent schism.
    In 1650 Calov became a professor at Wittenberg, and he signalized his entrance into office with a vehement attack on the Syncretists in Helmstedt. An outburst of polemical writings followed. In 1650 the dukes of Brunswick answered the Elector of Saxony that the discord should not be allowed to increase, and proposed a meeting of the political councillors. Saxony, however, did not favour this suggestion.
    An attempt to convene a meeting of theologians was not more successful. The theologians of Wittenberg and Leipzig now elaborated a new formula, condemning ninety-eight heresies of the Helmstedt theologians. This formula (consensus) was to be signed by everyone who wished to remain in the Lutheran Church. Outside Wittenberg and Leipzig, however, it was not accepted, and Calixt's death in 1656 ushered in five years of almost undisturbed peace.

    The strife broke out afresh in Hesse-Cassel, where Landgrave William VI sought to effect a union between his Lutheran and Reformed subjects, or at least to lessen their mutual hatred. In 1661 he had a colloquy held in Cassel between the Lutheran theologians of the University of Rinteln and the Reformed theologians of the University of Marburg. Enraged at this revival of the syncretism of Calixt, the Wittenberg theologians in vehement terms called on the Rinteln professors to make their submission, whereupon the latter answered with a detailed defence. Another long series of polemical treatises followed. In Brandenburg-Prussia the Great Elector (Frederick William I) forbade (1663) preachers to speak of the disputes between the Evangelical bodies. A long colloquy in Berlin (September 1662 to May 1663) led only to fresh discord. In 1664 the elector repeated his command that preachers of both parties should abstain from mutual abuse, and should attribute to the other party no doctrine which was not actually held by such party. Whoever refused to sign the form declaring his intention to observe this regulation, was deprived of his position (e. g. Paul Gerhardt, writer of religious songs). This arrangement was later modified, in that the forms were withdrawn, and action took place only against those who disturbed the peace. The attempts of the Wittenberg theologians to declare Calixt and his school un-Lutheran and heretical were now met by Calixt's son, Friedrich Ulrich Calixt, The latter defended the theology of his father, but also tried to show that his doctrine did not so very much differ from that of his opponents. Wittenberg found its new champion in Ægidius Strauch, who attacked Calixt with all the resources of learning, polemics, sophistry, wit, cynicism, and abuse. The Helmstedt side was defended by the celebrated scholar and statesman, Hermann Conring. The Saxon princes now recognized the danger that the attempt to carry through the "Consensus" as a formula of belief might lead to a fresh schism in the Lutheran Church, and might thus render its position difficult in the face of the Catholics. The proposals of Calov and his party to continue the refutation and to compel the Brunswick theologians to bind themselves under obligation to the old Lutheran confession therefore remained unimplemented. On the contrary, the Saxon theologians were forbidden to continue the strife in writing. Negotiations for peace then resulted, with Duke Ernst the Pious of Saxe-Gotha especially active towards this end, and the project of establishing a permanent college of theologians to decide theological disputes was entertained. However, the negotiations with the courts of Brunswick, Mecklenburg, Denmark, and Sweden remained as fruitless as those with the theological faculties, except that peace was maintained until 1675. Calov then renewed hostilities. He now attacked not only Calixt, but also and particularly the moderate John Musæus of Jena. Calov succeeded in having the whole University of Jena (and after a long resistance Musæus himself) compelled to renounce syncretism. But this was his last victory. The elector renewed his prohibition against polemical writings. Calov seemed to give way, since in 1683 he asked whether, in the view of the danger which France then constituted for Germany, a Calixtinic Syncretism with "Papists" and the Reformed were still condemnable, and whether in deference to the Elector of Brandenburg and the dukes of Brunswick, the strife should not be buried by an amnesty, or whether, on the contrary, the war against syncretism should be continued. He later returned to his attack on the syncretists, but died in 1686, and with his death the strife ended.

    The Syncretist Strife had the result of lessening religious hatred and of promoting mutual forbearance. Catholicism thus benefited, as Protestants came to better understand and appreciate it. In Protestant theology it prepared the way for the sentimental theology of Pietism as the successor of fossilized orthodoxy.
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    Yep, many holidays people celebrate are not what they seem to be. Valentines Day, Christmas, Thanksgiving, Easter, just to name a few. What the general public knows about those holidays is miniscule if anything. Most common people believe the fairy tales presented by society and the governments, then the government uses that blind belief in something to make money. The modern day versions of Christmas, Thanksgiving and Easter were greatly influenced by the development of Capitalism, now they are mainly to make money. But, for many people, they are still a time for celebration, not to make money. But, they still do spend their money up, and that's the whole point. This country (US) has taken people's beleif in something and used that to make their dollar bills, which is quite capitalistic in my opinion. Oh well, people will keep consuming and the producers will keep selling, despite the morality or ethics of the advertisement methods. What an odd world we live in, eh.
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    or the feast of the god mithra or sol invictus,its quite amusing that all the major christians feasts dont have a chirstian origin or a jew origin,samething about saints,the saints origin are pagan,pagans maked some people divine after the death,if studied religions u know that christianity really didnt bring anything new,even the message about charity and love,its quite a stoic message

    there is 1 thing that christianity bringed new to western civ,theocratic istitutions (pope) that ruined europe for a very long time

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    How can it be "completely compromised"? How can you state what is correct of not?
    It's a known fact that Christianity and specifically the Catholic Church as used syncretism as a binding force for their faithful; all religions have done such in different degrees, to pass judgement solely based on that is, in my opinion, a one sided argument.
    How can anyone say what is correct or not? But we can see what is truth and what is not. The truth is, ultimately, these things have absolutely nothing to do with Christianity, yet we accept them as is. Yes religions have done to such degrees but Christianity beats them all. Your quote only proves my point.

    Binding force of the faithful? What a way to try and justify this.

    Matthew 15:9:
    In vain they worship Me, teaching as doctrines the commandments of men.
    Will you worship him in spirit and truth or fraud and fable?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DariusEG View Post

    Will you worship him in spirit and truth or fraud and fable?
    Had you (and others) bothered to read the quote I presented you would see where I stand and why I think syncretism in Christianity isn't necessarily a bad or good thing.
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    Manji does have a solid point. It has been used by many cultures and religions for a long long time, not necessarily just the Christians. Although due to the influence and power that the Christian faith held back then and holds atm, it seems alot more prominent.


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