Will a God one day exist?

[Cluny the Scourge]

There is no God. No supreme intelligence that governs the universe. However, there were once no humans either, and hence no intelligence of any kind that could govern the lands of just one planet. Now there are, enough billions of years into the process of the universe's unfolding. So - why should there not SOME DAY be a God? Why should not one be born?

From simple impulses there emerge complex systems - inputs bind together, produce outputs which feed back into the system and so create a cycle that generates ever greater complexity overall. Evolution works this way. The coalescing and operation of biochemicals on the smallest possible scale functioning under the natural selectivity of the conditions of their environment over hundreds of millions of years, until the natural and inevitable outcome is produced, cells, microscopic organisms, algae, primitive fish and crawling things, complex mammals and sharks, primates, humans.

Now conceive of the universe as one colossal environment in which this process is to take place - the human 'mind' as primitive an early-stage experiment in mindhood as an amoeba is to giraffe as a living-organism. Let the universal-evolutionary process of all forces in space-time unfold and be selected for hundreds of billions of years further - the whole of humanity wiped out in favour of other alien intelligences if necessary if we fail the testing to be part of it - and why should not the level of mind-hood generated attain perfection - an ultimate all-encompassing intellect that can master and manipulate the entire universe to its own devising.

That is the natural trend seen in the development of all things - things emerge from the bottom upward, not designed and imposed from the top-down.

So, in a sense the fact of human intelligence is proof of the existence of God - the God-that-is-to-be. It does not presently exist, nor has it ever, but inevitably it one day will. And there is also an afterlife, of sorts - the afterlife-that-is-to-be, for that not-yet-existing God - possessing of total intelligence, total power to shape his environment, and total compassion as the ultimate finished product of moral-evolution - would examine and understand all intelligences that have existed and recreate them, considering that they deserve it by the very fact of their having existed.

What I want to know is this: What will be that God's favourite colour?

[William the Bastard]

What I want to know is this: What will be that God's favourite colour?

Brown. It is everywhere if you look. You can't get away from it.

[Skyler]

Interesting I will give you a honest awnser and say to you that my godEmperor Dolphinino the 16th( see sig,he has a cow as a bodyguard) loves ocean blue, honestly he does.

[Beiss]

Interesting idea. I think you're on to something here.

[Garnier]

Just because you don't know God doesn't mean He doesn't exist.

[Skyler]

Just because you don't know God doesn't mean He doesn't exist.

Kinda paradoxal isn't it?

[NaptownKnight]

There is a God. how was the universe created without God. The logic of atheists never cease to amaze me.

[Gaidin]

The logic of atheists never cease to amaze me.

I don't know about you, but I get entertained by both sides.

[William the Bastard]

There is a God. how was the universe created without God.

Blu-tac and Pritt Stick.

[Skyler]

There is a God. how was the universe created without God. The logic of atheists never cease to amaze me.

And how was this God created in the first place, yeah logic sucks, we will never understand it, or come to an agreement.

[NaptownKnight]

And how was this God created in the first place, yeah logic sucks, we will never understand it, or come to an agreement.

Simple no one created God. He was there to begin with.

[Skyler]

Simple no one created God. He was there to begin with.

That can't be ( atleast for me). I cannot believe God always was because God is.

I just cannot grab the logic from that.

[Gaidin]

That can't be ( atleast for me). I cannot believe God always was because God is.

I just cannot grab the logic from that.

There's two mind states for answering the question of the Universe and God:

• God's existence is axiomatic truth and has been there. Period.
• God's existence is not axiomatic and we must wait for verifiable observational evidence of such a being coming to existence or having been there.

Due to the axiomatic nature both work as assumptions and fulfill the rules of logic. You just do not accept such an axiom whereas he insists on it.

[NaptownKnight]

IDK many people have a problem with that one but I cant see any other way the universe was created.

[Cluny the Scourge]

It is not in the nature of the universe for things to just 'be there to begin with'. They have to emerge from the interaction of a system of forces, just as human and animal evolution have done, just as the formation of stars and planets from gas and rock have done.

That is why there WILL BE a God - at the uttermost end of a span of history so colossal it is beyond human comprehension. And if it will suit that newly-emerged God to motivate space, time and energy so that the universe that gave him birth comes into being, reaching back to the time before he even existed, then why should he not do so?

I have decided to found a new religion based upon this observation and I will require that people make 'donations' to join on the basis that I will develop a way to leave messages for God to find when he eventually comes into existence - I will then buy a holiday home somewhere in the Greek isles. With a swimming pool. For will it not be God's wish that I should have done so?

[William the Bastard]

WILL BE a God

I am trying but it's hard being everywhere at once

[Skyler]

Cause and effect maybe? I mean I haven't met God and nobdy has ever given me cause to to think he exists. Anyway if he does exists, I will never bow before him, big deal he created the universe give him a cookie.

Do not take the last lines seriously naptown.

Cluny, what the heck is wrong with my dolphin being your next, nay our next god.
Or make your mascot avatar God, he deserves it.

[NaptownKnight]

Cause and effect maybe? I mean I haven't met God and nobdy has ever given me cause to to think he exists. Anyway if he does exists, I will never bow before him, big deal he created the universe give him a cookie.

Do not take the last lines seriously naptown.

Gathers up armies to go on holy crusade....

[NaptownKnight]

I think the Big Bang theory is pure fiction imagined in the minds of scientists with nothing better to do. but if thats what you prefer to believe I cant stop you.

[zznɟ ǝɥʇ]

If you can't understand the forces at work in the Big Bang theory, how can you dismiss it as rubbish?

I don't understand it, so I don't dismiss it. Once I understand it fully I'll make an educated decision.