New Factions Discussion

[SicilianVespers]

Please use this thread to discuss additional factions you would like to appear in the mod.

Keep in mind that I would like to fill gaps in the campaign map, and that the factions should be usable, or easily used as another faction, in all four eras (Darkage, Early, High, and Late).

[DaVinci]

Perhaps Burgundy ... as you already put in many little factions, they could make a bit trouble in middle-europe

I realise, that the SV mods will be rather a gameplay-oriented design, where also the minor AI realms have the chance to developing to mighty factions ... a change from our pretty historical gameplay-design in Chivalry

[SicilianVespers]

Perhaps Burgundy ... as you already put in many little factions, they could make a bit trouble in middle-europe

I think you make a good point here. A faction between France and the HRE would be a good addition. Flanders is another choice, especially since there is already a Flanders minimod.

I realise, that the SV mods will be rather a gameplay-oriented design, where also the minor AI realms have the chance to developing to mighty factions ... a change from our pretty historical gameplay-design in Chivalry

I would like to have a combination of the two, but every release will move more to the historical side.

[Beka]

you could add Georgia

[Graf von Watts]

Hummmm... Is it possible to add an Austrian Faction? I know that you have Friederich von Habsburg in your present mod, but a possible rival faction that could possibly take out the HRE and be a buffer between the Poles, Hungarians and Byzantines could be useful. I say this because when I played as HRE this past weekend the Byzantines were my biggest threat being left unchecked as they were. The city of Temesvar changed hands at least 25 times during my wars with them.

[mta35]

hello

Burgundy and flandes ,Ireland perhaps?
when you sent a new version of SV for the 1.2?
thanks

[SicilianVespers]

Hummmm... Is it possible to add an Austrian Faction? I know that you have Friederich von Habsburg in your present mod, but a possible rival faction that could possibly take out the HRE and be a buffer between the Poles, Hungarians and Byzantines could be useful. I say this because when I played as HRE this past weekend the Byzantines were my biggest threat being left unchecked as they were. The city of Temesvar changed hands at least 25 times during my wars with them.

I am currently working on adding the Tsardom of Serba, so they should act as a buffer in the Balkans.

But, Austria or Bohemia would be good choices for Central Europe.

hello

Burgundy and flandes ,Ireland perhaps?
when you sent a new version of SV for the 1.2?
thanks

We already have the Angevins in Southern France, and they will be getting an addition province in Greece, the Principality of Achaia, so Flanders would be more likely than Burgundy. Ireland will probably be in for sure.

you could add Georgia

I am leaning toward Georgia, as I have alot of research from old MTW mods concerning the Georgians. But, we will have to see how the Armenians affect the campaign first.

[Graf von Watts]

I was thinking about France for a minute. I noticed there is a huge swath of land between Dijon and Marseilles. What do you think of adding the Provence of Franche-Comte with the city of Lyons?

[Hans Kloss]

Teutonic Knights a must faction for that period of time for Central and Eastern Europe (without princeses )

Kingdom of Bohemia as second choice, I still can't make why this faction never made into MTW2 on the first place

[Graf von Watts]

I made a mistake it would not be the regoin of Franche Comte it would be Lyonnais. Basically inbetween Dijon and Marseilles and slightly to the east of both on the Rhone river.

[SicilianVespers]

I made a mistake it would not be the regoin of Franche Comte it would be Lyonnais. Basically inbetween Dijon and Marseilles and slightly to the east of both on the Rhone river.

I will have to look at this. With Serbia added to the mod, I think I will have to add Friuli or Verona as a buffer.

I need to count up the provinces to see how many more I can add.

[Gazi Husrev-Beg]

See if you can add 2-3 provinces per new factions.It would be really boring to have siege fest all the time.

Are factions decided yet?

Have you considered adding Tatars, by Tatars I am refering to Tribes, Cumans, Kipchek,Pechengs etc?


Have you considered Bulgaria, Lithuania and Bohemia?

[SicilianVespers]

See if you can add 2-3 provinces per new factions.It would be really boring to have siege fest all the time.

Are factions decided yet?

Have you considered adding Tatars, by Tatars I am refering to Tribes, Cumans, Kipchek,Pechengs etc?


Have you considered Bulgaria, Lithuania and Bohemia?

After playing a Serbia, I decided to add the Tsardom of Bulgaria next.

So far these are the new factions appearing in 1.3:

Kingdom of Armenia
Tsardom of Serbia
Tsardom of Bulgaria

These were the new factions introduced with version 1.0:

Crown of Aragon
Kingdom of Naples

That's 5 new factions so far, so that leaves us 4 slots left?

I was also thinking about adding Ireland and the Hafsid Caliphate in Tunisia.

[mta35]

and flandes?

[SicilianVespers]

and flandes?

I am leaning toward Flanders and Bohemia or Lithuania for the last two slots. Assuming we can get permission to use some their work.

[Bulgar Soldja]

Bulgaria

[zznɟ ǝɥʇ]

I think Bohemia would be a great bulwark against all the spam that goes on in Eastern Europe...hopefully keep those pesky Polish and Danes at bay for a bit...

[IrAr]

I suggest Georgia, Bohemia, Flanders and Ifriqiya (Calpihate of Tunisa).
EDIT: I was thinking of Bulgaria too. Good call, Bulgar Soldja.

[Graf von Watts]

Bohemia is a good choice. As well as Bulgaria I think Bulgaria in conjuntion with Serbia and Hungary should be able to keep the Byzantines from expanding to the north, and should the Ottomans be triumphant in Constantinople, they can also be a stumbling block to them as they expand to the danube. However I would still hope to see another German Faction because if Poland strikes north and then west into Bohemia (which I have seen them do) it would be hard for the Bohemians to deal with them alone as the HRE will usually be fighting Denmark and Hungary, France, and Possibly some of the Italian factions all at once. So, Bohemia would need an ally to the south who could possibly deal a heavy blow to an exposed Polish underbelly. What do you all think?

[DaVinci]

Perhaps you should take out Persia for supporting first the Mongols (as i never noticed them), and second to have one more slot free.
Ie. Lithuania became, afaik, historical significant in the Late Era.
Also the by you already mentioned Tunesian faction could (and should) help the now quite difficult Near-East/Asia-Minor balance, speak, to keep eventually the very strong Mameluks busy in their mainlands, and not to invading Asia Minor/Greece, instead of the Ottomans