23 [synchronicity]

[Amorphos]

23
it is said that this number is the number of endings and the axis of 'synchronicity', indeed everything goes by 23! Seams there is a lot more to coincidence than randomness. A counter argument is called the 'theory of fives' which states that if you look hard enough you will find everything goes by five, the problem is that not much does comparatively, and many things that do can still be connected to the number 23. Have a little look and see what you think – are things connected by numbers or cycles and patterns? Then link this numerological side of things to the idea of universal thought expressed in many of my previous threads – Pythagoras is god lol.


666; 2 / 3 = .666... This stuff can be dangerous.

1723 A.D.
The year that Adam Weishaupt (cf your nearest American one dollar bill) revived the Illuminati. The 23 is 2+3=5, going to the Law of Fives. The 17 is also interesting, as 1+7=8, 2 to the 3rd power = 8. Eight is also the number of letters in the Kallisti, Hail Eris!

September 11, 2001 equals 23. 9 + 11 + 2 + 0 + 0+ 1 = 23

April 23, 1564 and April 23, 1616
Shakespeare was born on April 23, 1564 and died on April 23, 1616. Most of Shakespeare is known to us through the first folio published in 1623.
Kurt Cobain Born 1967: 1+9+6+7=23. Died 1994: 1+9+9+4=23.

I Ching
TheI Ching Hexagram 23 means "Break Apart". Telegrapher's use 23 as the code for 'break the line'.

AOL Chat Rooms
Only 23 people allowed in a AOL chatroom. Coincidence? Obviously, just an "illuminated" programmer.

Airplane disaster
230 people died on TWA Flight 800.

Aleister Crowley
In Aleister Crowley'sCabalistic Dictionary, he defines the number 23 as the number of "parting, removal, separation, joy, a thread, and life..."

Aleister Crowley
Refer to Chapter 69 of Aleister Crowley'sBook of Lies. 69/3=23. 6+9+3=18. 18=23-5.

Alphabet: The letter W
W is the 23 letter of this alphabet. The symbol for that letter is two points down and three points up.

Alphabet
E is the fifth letter of the alphabet, and also the most commonly used in the English language. W is the 23rd letter of the alphabet. Half of W is V, which is the roman numeral for 5. Once again, therefore, the inherent connection between 5 and 23 is proven.

Apollo Lunar Landings 1 & 2
First landing on the Moon was in the Sea of Tranquility, 23.63 degrees East. Second landing was in the Ocean of Storms, 23.42 degrees West. Notice the names of the picked sights and how they contrast. Note: First two landings were Apollo 11 & 12 (11+12= 23!). Justexactly what does NASA know?

Asteroids
Asteroid researchers measuring the rotation periods of asteroids reported that none were found with periods of less than 2.3 hours. A rotation period of less than 2.3 hours would cause them to be torn apart. I dunno,physics.
Blood Circulation It takes 23 seconds for blood to circulate through the human body.
Burrough's 23 Enigma In the early '60's in Tangiers, William Burroughs knew a certain "Captain Clark" who ran a ferry from Tangiers to Spain. One day, Clark said to Burroughs that he'd been running the ferry23 years without an accident. That very day the ferry sank, killing Clark and everyone aboard. In the evening, Burroughs was thinking about this when he turned on the radio. The first newscast headlined the crash of an airline plane on the New York-Miami route. The pilot was anotherCaptain Clark and the flight was listed asFlight 23 (ala the line "Captain Clark welcomes you aboard.").

The axis of the Earth describes a circle in the heavens (switching off 'pole stars' and sometimes going without) over a period of 23,000 years. The axis of the planet Earth is 23.5 degrees
August 23, 1970 Birth date of River Phoenix, actor. Died of drug overdose,
August 23 Birth date of Keith Moon, original drummer for the Who. Also died from drug overdose
Bible: Revelations Revelations ofThe New Testament has 22 sections the 22nd having 21 lines; implying a progression to 23
Bible: Revelations The most frequent numbers in the Book of Revelations are 4 (the powerful beasts), 7(seven seals, seven churches, etc.), and 12 (12 apostles, etc.). 4+7+12=23!
Bible: Revelations There is no known 23rd Chapter to Revelations.
Bible I Corinthians 15:56, Paul said "The sting of death [23] is sin and the strength of sin [13] is the law [10]."
Bible Daniel 8:14And he said unto me, Unto two thousand and three hundred days; then shall the sanctuary be cleansed.
Ceasar was stabbed 23 times when he was assassinated.
Chromosome Pairs The human body has 46 chromosomes, which are paired, in somatic cells. Generative cells have half this number, 23, which is the number of chromosomes each parents gives to human deoxyribonucleic acid.
December 23, 2012 The date the Mayans believed the world will end.


I could write loads more but type 23 in your browser and there are thousands of connections!

[Dunecat]

I was born on June 23, 1989.

There are 23 independent cubes in a rubix cube.

Add 5 years to my age and you get 23.

Creepy...

[Amorphos]

Interesting. What i want to look at here is; whats behind it? I dont believe numbers have an influence, but cycles patterns and principles do.then of course there are natural limits and endings such as 7 visible colours etc.

[mocker]

Ah, the human mind... So fascinating, yet scary.

[Time Commander Bob]

I think its only when you think the number 23 as significant that you start to realise that it appears "often". This is because your brain probably notices 23 a lot because you think it is special. The same could be said for 666 or any other familiar number. For example. in M2TW I can remember a lot of times when I had 666 troops remaining, but did it mean anything? No, it was because I only remembered battles where I had 666 troops remaining because that number is familiar to me.

Therefore, I think the fact that 23 pops up a lot is mainly coincedental and just a quirk in the human brain that makes it seem to be "everywhere".

[Feliks]

2/3 = .667 if you round correctly.

[Amorphos]

tcb
Intelligent people have been studying this for most of their lives and found that not to be true. there simply are many connections to this number and a few significant others like 7. sure there are number correlations to all numbers, but important ones often only have one connection.

Feliks
yes true

0.66666666666666666666666666666667

Its the synchronicity aspect of apparent coincidence that interests me.

[ThiudareiksGunthigg]

[QUOTE=Quetzalcoatl;1628334]tcb
Intelligent people have been studying this for most of their lives and found that not to be true.QUOTE]

Please name one of these so-called "intelligent people" who have wasted their lives on something so ridiculous.

[Amorphos]

Admittedly some aspects of it are ridiculous, others however are simple logic. There number 23 may be ascribed to most of the above and many thousands of other instances – not another number, thus just as we can say that 7 can be ascribed to visible light or Fibonacci numbers to many aspects of nature, then the number 23 can be ascribed to certain aspects. The question is; why! What sets the boundaries, that physical things and coincidences fall into?

[Time Commander Bob]

tcb
Intelligent people have been studying this for most of their lives and found that not to be true. there simply are many connections to this number and a few significant others like 7. sure there are number correlations to all numbers, but important ones often only have one connection.

Feliks
yes true

0.66666666666666666666666666666667

Its the synchronicity aspect of apparent coincidence that interests me.

Many "intelligent people" studided alchemy for most of their lives.
You name any positive integer up to 100 and I bet I could come up with as many correlations as you did with 23.

Let's try the number 14 for instance:

1714: George I of Hanover becomes King of Britain
2 weeks= 14 days
1914: The first world war begins
14 AD: Tiberius becomes Emperor of Rome.
Louis XIV ruled as King of France from the 14th of May 1643. Add the digits together in 1643 and you get 14.
14 is the atomic number of silicon.
There are 14 pounds in a stone.
Woodrow Wilson created his 14 points as the First World War was coming to an end.

I could go on for even longer, but I think I've made my point clear: number coincidences mean nothing and happen for virtually any number.

[DarkKnight]

2/3 = .667 if you round correctly.

Nope. It would be approximately .667. Once you round you lose the equality.

But on the topic, you could do the same for any number and find these "coincidences". There is nothing special about the number 23. If you want to look at special numbers observe the ratio of a circles circumference to its diameter. Observe e. My favorite: e^(i*pi)=-1

[ThiudareiksGunthigg]

But on the topic, you could do the same for any number and find these "coincidences".

Exactly. Some people will make a "mystery" out of anything ...

[Rhah]

23
it is said that this number is the number of endings and the axis of 'synchronicity', indeed everything goes by 23! Seams there is a lot more to coincidence than randomness. A counter argument is called the 'theory of fives' which states that if you look hard enough you will find everything goes by five, the problem is that not much does comparatively, and many things that do can still be connected to the number 23. Have a little look and see what you think – are things connected by numbers or cycles and patterns? Then link this numerological side of things to the idea of universal thought expressed in many of my previous threads – Pythagoras is god lol.


666; 2 / 3 = .666... This stuff can be dangerous.

1723 A.D.
The year that Adam Weishaupt (cf your nearest American one dollar bill) revived the Illuminati. The 23 is 2+3=5, going to the Law of Fives. The 17 is also interesting, as 1+7=8, 2 to the 3rd power = 8. Eight is also the number of letters in the Kallisti, Hail Eris!

September 11, 2001 equals 23. 9 + 11 + 2 + 0 + 0+ 1 = 23

April 23, 1564 and April 23, 1616
Shakespeare was born on April 23, 1564 and died on April 23, 1616. Most of Shakespeare is known to us through the first folio published in 1623.
Kurt Cobain Born 1967: 1+9+6+7=23. Died 1994: 1+9+9+4=23.

I Ching
TheI Ching Hexagram 23 means "Break Apart". Telegrapher's use 23 as the code for 'break the line'.

AOL Chat Rooms
Only 23 people allowed in a AOL chatroom. Coincidence? Obviously, just an "illuminated" programmer.

Airplane disaster
230 people died on TWA Flight 800.

Aleister Crowley
In Aleister Crowley'sCabalistic Dictionary, he defines the number 23 as the number of "parting, removal, separation, joy, a thread, and life..."

Aleister Crowley
Refer to Chapter 69 of Aleister Crowley'sBook of Lies. 69/3=23. 6+9+3=18. 18=23-5.

Alphabet: The letter W
W is the 23 letter of this alphabet. The symbol for that letter is two points down and three points up.

Alphabet
E is the fifth letter of the alphabet, and also the most commonly used in the English language. W is the 23rd letter of the alphabet. Half of W is V, which is the roman numeral for 5. Once again, therefore, the inherent connection between 5 and 23 is proven.

Apollo Lunar Landings 1 & 2
First landing on the Moon was in the Sea of Tranquility, 23.63 degrees East. Second landing was in the Ocean of Storms, 23.42 degrees West. Notice the names of the picked sights and how they contrast. Note: First two landings were Apollo 11 & 12 (11+12= 23!). Justexactly what does NASA know?

Asteroids
Asteroid researchers measuring the rotation periods of asteroids reported that none were found with periods of less than 2.3 hours. A rotation period of less than 2.3 hours would cause them to be torn apart. I dunno,physics.
Blood Circulation It takes 23 seconds for blood to circulate through the human body.
Burrough's 23 Enigma In the early '60's in Tangiers, William Burroughs knew a certain "Captain Clark" who ran a ferry from Tangiers to Spain. One day, Clark said to Burroughs that he'd been running the ferry23 years without an accident. That very day the ferry sank, killing Clark and everyone aboard. In the evening, Burroughs was thinking about this when he turned on the radio. The first newscast headlined the crash of an airline plane on the New York-Miami route. The pilot was anotherCaptain Clark and the flight was listed asFlight 23 (ala the line "Captain Clark welcomes you aboard.").

The axis of the Earth describes a circle in the heavens (switching off 'pole stars' and sometimes going without) over a period of 23,000 years. The axis of the planet Earth is 23.5 degrees
August 23, 1970 Birth date of River Phoenix, actor. Died of drug overdose,
August 23 Birth date of Keith Moon, original drummer for the Who. Also died from drug overdose
Bible: Revelations Revelations ofThe New Testament has 22 sections the 22nd having 21 lines; implying a progression to 23
Bible: Revelations The most frequent numbers in the Book of Revelations are 4 (the powerful beasts), 7(seven seals, seven churches, etc.), and 12 (12 apostles, etc.). 4+7+12=23!
Bible: Revelations There is no known 23rd Chapter to Revelations.
Bible I Corinthians 15:56, Paul said "The sting of death [23] is sin and the strength of sin [13] is the law [10]."
Bible Daniel 8:14And he said unto me, Unto two thousand and three hundred days; then shall the sanctuary be cleansed.
Ceasar was stabbed 23 times when he was assassinated.
Chromosome Pairs The human body has 46 chromosomes, which are paired, in somatic cells. Generative cells have half this number, 23, which is the number of chromosomes each parents gives to human deoxyribonucleic acid.
December 23, 2012 The date the Mayans believed the world will end.


I could write loads more but type 23 in your browser and there are thousands of connections!

Looks like someones been reading too much Robert Anton Wilson (RIP)....


Hail Eris!

[Amorphos]

Tcb
interesting post and i do get your point, but the relevancies weren't all that good compared to the 23 ones. people whom study these things have of course done exactly the same thing! Its more about the relevance of the attributes [meaning of the number] and the universal archetypes involved that intrigues me.

Have a look at the bigger picture...

The Pandora cypher.
The hidden way of numbers; the chart below shows how things 'fall into place' by an invisible language of sequences. All things are not created at once, if you create all things in an instant then existence would be like a painting of everything, still and unchanging with no room left for new occurrences or evolutions. To create everything one must create as you go – so to say, let us think of it as like a film rather than a still image, thence all things would be created in their 'place', often we have to destroy to create anew with one thing replacing the previous. I will use an analogy of boxes to represent this, as i like the idea of things kind of falling into place as time evolves, as if there is an invisible hand that floats over the boxes casting the seeds of time, filling them and taking form within their slot in events; history/coincidence/evolution.
It is not that say the number '23' is all important nor any other number, what matters is 'number evolutions'; in the evolution of the universe and of energy forms, the simpler natures belong to early numbers e.g. Light has seven [visible] or nine [actual] aspects. Simply put, if you begin an evolution it will follow a pattern simply because it begins [number 1] then progresses, certain natures will fall to their respective numbers and some things will migrate towards given numbers. It is as if a form of magnetism builds around some kinds of events forming polarities in time, these range from the physical to the holistic – after all an event is an event! Here we may begin to see how some [not all] coincidences may be formed of such attractions.



We may now form the next layer and tie event magnetism with the ideas represented in the concepts of 'a single thought that lasts forever' the 'dance the eternal' and 'painting masterpieces in the air' notions [threads].

[Time Commander Bob]

Oh ok, I can see what you are saying now (you should have put that post as post 1 so that people like me would have taken this thread a little more seriously).

Yet, I still disagree. Surely numbers are a human invention to make describing things easier, for instance, we observe things as having a certain number because we find it easy to categorise them that way for our own conveience rather than the fact that certain natures fall into numbers?

[Amorphos]

bob
I'll add this [below in green] from ana forum just to show a little more where i am going – this is work in progress. Interesting point you make about numbers there though, and i agree they are a metaphor we place on things – simply a description. We have to see beyond them, that trends sequences and cycles do not strictly adhere to them. But numbers are very useful tools, we can use them to envelope things such as 3 dimensions in ordinary space,'1' can describe a point, the singularity and space [the whole],'2' describes balance, duality and polarity, 7 colour and the octave in music – also the difference between the elements which compose water on the periodic table. I would agree that it is not the numbers themselves but simply that things just so happen fit into them. There are many cycles in the universe and all must belong to one sequence and number or a given other.

If you imagine numbers evolving in space without existence you arrive at a basic pattern of primary numbers like a chart. Now imagine that this evolution is applicable to anything that evolves or changes i.e. Everything, kinda like a cosmic blueprint.

QUOTE
I read somewhere that either the Earth, Moon, some other body, or a combination of all have shifted enough since the zodiac signs were first formulated that our actual sign is either the one after or before our supposed sign.

Its due to the precession of equinoxes. Equally so, if you were born on mars then it could not be one of your ruling planets. If born in a galaxy far far away then? This is why i am working on universal astrology – because all of that doesn't seam to matter! I think it is more to do with regions of time rather than locations in space. i mean we are still born in a different 'section' of the year – each year. The monthly divisions also correlate to yearly ones i.e. Western with eastern astrology – in fact it moves in twelves exponentially and certain other numbers, so it is all actually about cycles!

[Dunecat]

XXIII.

ZOMG XX divided by III is...

6.66...

X divided by X divided by I divided by I divided by I is...

1.









. . .


*EDIT*- ZOMG look at these Mayan symbols!



4 lines divided by 3 dots equals...

6.666...

1 line divided by 1 line divided by 1 line divided by 1 line divided by 1 dot divided by 1 dot divided by 1 dot equals...

1.

Again.

Crap.