Kingdom of Armenia

[SicilianVespers]

Use this thread to discuss, and post your contribution regarding the Armenian Kingdom of Kilikia.

[Ermeni]

For the early campaign expansion:

Faction Name:

Armenian Cilicia, Kingdom of Armenian Cilicia or Kingdom of Armenia
Starting Position:

Sis, Castle (Capital)
Tarsus, Large Town

Other Cities (optional): Adana, Ayas, Vahka, Selinos and Marash

Here's some maps I've found






Faction Symbols:







Coat of Arms



Faction Leader (Title = Arkah): Rouben I
(This is if the mod starts in 1080)
Faction Heir (Title = Ishkan) : Gosdantin

Armenian Names:

FEMALE
Aghavni
Alix
Anahid
Anoush
Ardai
Arevig
Arina
Batara
Beatrice
Berjouhi
Dolete
Gadar
Hourig
Keran
Khoushoush
Kohar
Latavri
Leyla
Lucine
Mara
Maria
Mariam
Margarid
Mira
Retha
Rita
Siran
Sirvart
Takouhi
Vartouhi
Vosgi
Yeva
Zabel

MALE
Abas
Abirad
Aboughamr
Aboulgharib
Andranik
Arsen
Ashot
Atrnerseh
Avedis
Bagrat
Bedros 
Boghos 
Gagik
Grigor 
Gurgen
Hayk
Hethum
Hovhannes 
Hovsep 
Jirair
Kevork 
Khachik
Khajag
Gosdantin
Krikor
Kerop
Levon 
Masis
Mikayel 
Mleh
Nerseh
Oshin
Ruben
Sako 
Senekerim
Serop
Smbat
Taniel 
Tatoul
Tavit 
Toros
Vahan
Vahram
Vassak
Vesd
Vartan

Surnames

Abeluni
Abelean 
Aldznuni 
Amatuni 
Apahuni 
Aravelean 
Arravenean 
Aliovitean 
Arshmuni 
Arsharuni 
Bagratuni 
Barmean 
Baznuni 
Bznuniq
Darbandean 
Derjayin 
Derdzani 
Dziunakan 
Dzoghkertn 
Gabelean
Gabithian 
Gargaratsi 
Gavarrapetn
Gelamean 
Gisanian 
Goghtnats 
Goroghvayn
Hamutsean 
Harqian 
Hashtean
Hashtunian 
Huripean
Hyuranean
Kadmean 
Kalarjean
Kagharjean 
Kartozyan
Koghovit
Konakean 
Lekandrean 
Lernakan
Mamikonean 
Manuean 
Muatsean 
Maratsean
Netoghn 
Norberuni
Paluni 
Paluyan
Parsparunian 
Pokayuni
Qajberuni 
Qarrean 
Qaluni
Rapsonean 
Razmuni 
Rrshtuni
Rshtuniq,
Sagrasuni 
Saharuni 
Saluni 
Sanasuni 
Shahapuni 
Shahorapetn 
Shavarshean
Syuneats 
Tamberatsi
Tashiroy 
Taygrean 
Tharmuni 
Tushkuni 
Tzalkuni 
Tzopats 
Urtzi
Urtzadzor
Uteatsi 
Vagraspuni 
Vahanuni 
Vahevuni 
Vanandian 
Varaznuni 
Vardanean 
Vardzavuni 
Vijanuniq
Vorsapetn 
Voskemani 
Xachean 
Xalbean 
Xortchean 
Xoreni 
Xorxoruni 
Yedesean 
Yerevaray 
Yervanduni 
Yervanduniq 
Yntzayeni 
Zanahtchirapen 
Zarehavanean 
Zarehavan

Unit Roster

Infantry:

Caucasian Mountaineer Spearmen
Caucasian Mountaineer Infantry
Cilician Javelinmen
Armenian Infantry  (Better then Caucasian Mountaineer Infantry 
Border Spearmen  (Better then Caucasian Mountaineer Spearmen)  
Nakharar Infantry  (Dismount the Cavalry) (Heavy Infantry)

Missile:

Caucasian Mountaineer Archers
Armenian Archers (like the mercenary unit)
Cilician Guard (like the Byzantine Guard archers)

+(Some Sort of Crossbow unit should be available (Armenian Cilicia had a clear latin influence in their army - Maybe with the name:= 
Latin Crossbowmen)  (what do you guys think about that? 

Cavalry:

Armenian Javelin Cavalry
Aspet Cavalary (Light Cavalry)
Azat Cavalry (Medium Cavalry)
Nahkarar (Heavy Cavalry)

To everyone feel free to give suggestions, I'll edit this post when good suggestions come up

[SicilianVespers]

What about the Azats?

I am thinking they were heavier than the Aspet Cavalry, since they were the lesser Nobility.

[Ermeni]

What about the Azats?

I am thinking they were heavier than the Aspet Cavalry, since they were the lesser Nobility.

jepp...should have included them from the start.....they could be some sort of medium cavalry

[IrAr]

If you want any help on this, PM me.
I've modded a Kilikia (Armenian Kingdom of Cilicia) into Vanilla and I could happily post all the parts of file I modded into the game.

Unfortunately, I cannot skin/map/screw around with faction symbols so I only did text edits and gave them mercs as units.

SV, Aspet means literally "mounted warrior" so anyone could be an Aspet. Azats were lesser Nobility, they would be more like the Counts of Europe.
The Nakharar were the higher Nobles, the chief landowners. One such famous Nakharar family was the Lampronetsi (Of Lampron), a family which Hetum, the founder of the Hetumyan dynasty was from.

Among Nobles, the Axe, Mace, Sword and Lance were very common.

The Javelin was generally used by the poorest Cavalrymen and most Infantry. The Bow was a favorite harkening back to the constant battles among the Armenian Kingdom of Antiquity (time period...not place) and the Parthians (many Armenians of Parthian descent are quite prominent, St. Grikor the Illuminator was the son of a Parthian nobleman).
Spears were universal.
Swords were mostly for the upper classes,.

[SicilianVespers]

Thanks you both, anything you want contribute would be a big help to me.

I was thinking we should call the Javelin cavalry, Aspet Cavalry?

[Ermeni]

Thanks you both, anything you want contribute would be a big help to me.

I was thinking we should call the Javelin cavalry, Aspet Cavalry?

yeah sure....maybe make them like the Iberian Jinetes....and hopefully they'll be able to be the likes of the turkish horse arcers in melee battle

[IrAr]

What files do you need, SV?

[SicilianVespers]

Whats completed so far:
- Coats of Arms, large and small.
- Faction banners
- Royal banner

yeah sure....maybe make them like the Iberian Jinetes....and hopefully they'll be able to be the likes of the turkish horse arcers in melee battle

They will need to be though with their starting position. They should be a fun faction to play

What files do you need, SV?

I have a good idea of what I need to do, but if you send me the EDU, EDB, and export_units that would be very helpful.

[SickBoy13]

Looking forward to this!
Especially the Jinete-like cavalry!

[IrAr]

Could you clarify what you mean by EDU and EDB?
Also, I just gave them mercenaries to recruit, so my export_units won't be of much help.

[SicilianVespers]

EDU = export_descr_unit
EDB = export_descr_buildings

Don't worry about it, I think I have everything I need. I will strt coding after I finish the graphics.

[IrAr]

If you need anything, just PM me.
I love this mod!
I normally have a problem staying with one mod, but this one has held my interest for such a long time. The best part is the starting date. The player starts in the era in which the game has the most unique and different troops, not to mention the detailed mercenaries, as opposed to the general early mercs: crossbowmen and spearmen.

[SicilianVespers]

I got alot done this weekend. The Armenians have been added to the descr_strat, along with all the associated banners and shields. I used Alpaca's sd converter to create a new file to hold the coats of arms for the new factions.

All the strat units are done as well (general, diplomat, princess, etc) .

I also started adding units, this is what the roster looks like to far:

Peasants
Town Militia
Spear Militia
Peasant Archers
Archer Militia
Armenian Archers
Armenian Spearmen
Armenian Akritai
Caucasian Mountaineers
Azats
Nakharars
Dismounted Nakharars
Bodyguards

The starting leader is Oshin Hetumian, and Levon is the heir.

I will post a preview soon...

[Ermeni]

I got alot done this weekend. The Armenians have been added to the descr_strat, along with all the associated banners and shields. I used Alpaca's sd converter to create a new file to hold the coats of arms for the new factions.

All the strat units are done as well (general, diplomat, princess, etc) .

I also started adding units, this is what the roster looks like to far:

Peasants
Town Militia
Spear Militia
Peasant Archers
Armenian Archers
Armenian Infantry
Armenian Azats
Armenian Nakharars
Greek Bodyguard

The starting leader is Oshin Hetumian, and Levon is the heir.

I will post a preview soon...

really happy to see progress

But i have some questions:

greek bodyguard why ?
and when does the mod start ?

[SicilianVespers]

really happy to see progress

But i have some questions:

greek bodyguard why ?
and when does the mod start ?

The "greek_bodyguards" appear in the game as "Bodyguards" (it doesn't say greek in-game). They are the same bodyguard unit used by the Byzantines.

This is all going into the next patch, and will also be included in the Early expansion (when I release it).

[Ermeni]

The "greek_bodyguards" appear in the game as "Bodyguards" (it doesn't say greek in-game). They are the same bodyguard unit used by the Byzantines.

This is all going into the next patch, and will also be included in the Early expansion (when I release it).

amen to that......

The starting leader is Oshin Hetumian, and Levon is the heir.

if the mod starts in 1080 it should be .....roupen as king and gosdantin as prince...the hetoumians came to power 150 years after the roupenian dynasty...but in deed they where a important noble (nahkarar) family before they rose to power

and the name of the armenian faction should have been armenian cilicia (some say cilician armenia that's wrong)...

my english isn't perfect but i'll try to explain this:

cilicia was armenian = Armenian Cilicia
armenia was cilician = Cilician Armenia


i know that some refer to armenian cilicia as lesser armenia but i think it's wrong

maybe someone can enlighten me? if i'm wrong....share the knowledge......

short info: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lesser_Armenia

besides that everything look awesome....

[IrAr]

I know it sounds odd, but the Armenians should have the ability to gain Templar and Hospitaller guild halls. They Templars and Hospitallers both gave Armenian Kings soldiers as Armenia was seen as the last Christian Bastion in the east.

[SicilianVespers]

Armenian Unit Perview


Nakharars


Dismounted Nakharars


Armenian Aspets


Armenian Aspets


Armenian Azats


Armenian Akritai


Caucasian Mountaineers


Armenian Archers


Archer Militia


Armenian Infantry


Upgraded Armenian Infantry


Spear Militia


Town Militia

[IrAr]

I've always known it as Cilician Armenia, but the skins are wonderful!