When Will Atheism Take Control of Europe?

**jankren** · March 30, 2007, 05:37 PM

I think it is a fact that atheism is the quickest growing belief in Europe. So Im wondering when will the 'faith' approximately take complete control of the continent? 100 years maybe?

**~~Yosemite~~** · March 30, 2007, 05:39 PM

A certain amount of time +1 day.

Seriously, i don't know. I see more and more religious people here in france. It grows to religion.

**MET** · March 30, 2007, 05:43 PM

with all these islamic people coming to europe we will definitly not become atheistic. more likely though, it is going to happen that christianity dies out in europe.

**RZZZA** · March 30, 2007, 05:45 PM

"I think it's a fact"?

Heh....Yes, atheism will take control of europe by the end of the decade, and of the world by the end of the century. End yourself now because it's much less painful than what the atheists are going to do once they get ahold of you.

**Oxberger** · March 30, 2007, 06:44 PM

Originally Posted by RZZZA

"I think it's a fact"?

Heh....Yes, atheism will take control of europe by the end of the decade, and of the world by the end of the century. End yourself now because it's much less painful than what the atheists are going to do once they get ahold of you.

You think the Spanish Inquisition was bad?! Just wait till you see what we're gunna do

**zznɟ ǝɥʇ** · March 31, 2007, 08:45 PM

Originally Posted by Oxberger

You think the Spanish Inquisition was bad?! Just wait till you see what we're gunna do

Ah yes! Another opportunity for this...

**Hells Bells** · March 30, 2007, 11:18 PM

actually i think the moslems will have conquered europe by then. Thatll show em to open the floodgates.

**turtle** · March 30, 2007, 11:35 PM

I highly doubt any one belief system will take control over any continent, it never has and most likely never will. Unless we all somehow discover the truth about the universe and come to the same conclusions... probably not.

Atheism, Christianity, Islam, Buddhism, Taoism, Native Sprituality, Scientology, nor Voodoo will ever be fully the only religion anywhere... that certainly is closer to fact than Atheism taking control of Europe.

**jankren** · March 31, 2007, 01:53 AM

Originally Posted by turtle

I highly doubt any one belief system will take control over any continent, it never has and most likely never will. Unless we all somehow discover the truth about the universe and come to the same conclusions... probably not.

Christianity of any branches used to be in control of the whole Europe while Islam is still in control of the Middle East.

**boofhead** · March 31, 2007, 02:00 AM

Originally Posted by jankren

Christianity of any branches used to be in control of the whole Europe while Islam is still in control of the Middle East.

Xianity is still there behind the scenes in the West Jankren. It depends when the two-faced politicians find it expedient to express it. At least in Australia many politicians go to church publically, but we all know they lie their arses off when it comes to political-speak. The fact that they go publically indicates there is a large proportion of the electorate they are trying to con.

Most Xians I know don't go to church. Just like Jesus exposed the Sadducees and Pharisees in the Bible to be, these Xians see the damage ritualisation and dogmatism can cause, and prefer to worship in private, and discuss spiritual matters with their friends.

You sound a little excited at the prospect of a muslim Europe.....don't hold your breath Jankren; even if the atheists do become dominant, they will reject Islam more than they would Xianity LOL.

**jankren** · March 31, 2007, 02:04 AM

Originally Posted by boofhead

You sound a little excited at the prospect of a muslim Europe.....don't hold your breath Jankren; even if the atheists do become dominant, they will reject Islam more than they would Xianity LOL.

Where in this thread I ever said that I was excited to see a Muslim Europe? I even said Atheism is the fastest growing belief in Europe, not Islam.

**turtle** · March 31, 2007, 03:48 AM

Originally Posted by jankren

Christianity of any branches used to be in control of the whole Europe while Islam is still in control of the Middle East.

I apologize, perhaps I should have said complete control. During the Dark and Middle ages peganistic cultures still existed. If I'm not mistaken, even into the Renaissance they still loomed. Islam isn't and really hasn't been the only religion in the Middle East.

**jankren** · March 31, 2007, 04:41 AM

Originally Posted by turtle

I apologize, perhaps I should have said complete control. During the Dark and Middle ages peganistic cultures still existed. If I'm not mistaken, even into the Renaissance they still loomed. Islam isn't and really hasn't been the only religion in the Middle East.

Well, if we are talking about complete control then logically nothing has such control anywhere in this world.

**Siblesz** · March 31, 2007, 01:59 AM

There will always be backwards thinking in the world. I mean, it's been 140 years since Darwin, and a great and alarming percentage of the population of America still does not believe in evolution. It just makes you think just how hard it is to get rid off our archaic past - which, I think, will also be our downfall one day. So although Europeans are generally several times more informed about the world than Americans, don't think that atheism will become the prevalent mentality in Europeans or that the change in mind will help change the situation of human ignorance. You will always have the stupid masses, whether religious or not religious. The fact remains that indoctrination occurs in both atheism and religion. Mindless drones exist in both sides of the field. Of course, the big difference is that one indoctrination is based partly on facts, while the other relies on human imagination and faith.

All in all, what belief a person possesses is of no matter as long as the person conforms into the system. But as long as humans strive to blow themselves or other people up for their beliefs, then social progress will stall. As long as stupid people strive to 'go against the man', when the man is clearly a huge giant that will easily stomp on you, then social progress will suffer. Just think 9-11 wise. 19 idiots decided to stick it to the man, and instead of succeeding in their faith-based, insane objectives, they seeded in the world a deep hatred that might prove to be unrootable and that has caused countless pain and obstacles to people around the world.

Atheists are usually more understanding of the situation. Once their initial hatred against society subsides, they give up and conform. But some theists find conforming impossible. They live in a fantasy world that they think is woven by the hands of god, rather than by the turn of chance. And so, when they find something in their paths that goes directly against their faith, and in the absence of stable law, they direct their anger against the system without restraint and without understanding the consequences of their actions. They do not understand that the system is mainly uncontrolled, motivated by man's common interests. They do not understand that by ****ing with the system, you **** with plans to reform it. And every time they step in and intervene, they set back the reform a few years by introducing a toxic called distrust. Distrust is ignorance.

**RZZZA** · March 31, 2007, 02:07 AM

I thought islam was the fastest growing worldwide though...?

**LoZz** · March 31, 2007, 07:28 AM

Originally Posted by RZZZA

I thought islam was the fastest growing worldwide though...?

it is indeed, however christianty is still the largest.

i dont understand why americans think their is some sort of "muslim invasion" in europe, muslims make up less then 5% of most EU nations.

atheism will come, one day, and then another it will go and tbh nothing will happen, i dont personaly understand this childish fear of atheism, nothing is realy going to change, murder will still be a crime, just because we get that from our own moral code then a commandment makes no diffrence.

**RZZZA** · March 31, 2007, 07:26 PM

Really, I dont even believe that most of our morals come from religion. I think it just comes from society, from the common human experiences we all share. Murder is only wrong because everyone would feel devastated if their child or parent was murdered. Stealing is wrong because everyone knows what its like to be robbed. And so on and so on...

**Last Roman** · March 31, 2007, 07:40 PM

Originally Posted by jankren

I think it is a fact that atheism is the quickest growing belief in Europe. So Im wondering when will the 'faith' approximately take complete control of the continent? 100 years maybe?

First off, it's neither a belief or faith.

**Feliks** · March 31, 2007, 08:02 PM

When I move there.

**Eric** · March 31, 2007, 08:53 PM

Atheism taking over Europe? I don't think it'll happen if the forseeable future. Powerful religious authorities like the Roman Catholic Church in Italy prevent that. Sure Atheism may be a growing fashion, along with dry sarcasm and a cynical detachment to life, amongst the rich *******s of Europe, but as far as I know, the common, middle-class people still follow their religions. Mostly Christian faiths in Europe, Anglican, Protestant, Catholic, Orthodox, etc.

Unless there's some major shake-up in my life, i'm never going Atheist. I talked to some of my Atheist. friends about why they didn't believe in any sort of god for about 10 minutes, and I ended up both bored and depressed for the rest of the week.