The Sicilian Vespers v1.x Bug Thread

[SicilianVespers]

Please only post bug reports in this thread.


Current issues to be addressed in v1.2:

- Some Ilkhanate & Golden Horde Units have 0 upkeep cost.
- Some Ilkhanate settlements inhibit movement.
- Angevin Dismounted Feudal Knights using wrong model.
- More historical starting units for Scotland.
- More historical starting position and units for the Ottomans.
- Strengthened the HRE starting position to help them last longer.
- General balancing for more historic outcome.
- Historic starting family members

[SickBoy13]

I tried to fight a battle against the Sicillians as the Angevins. I had Prince Charles' army at the beggining of the game plus a unit of mercenary spearmen. Anyway, every time I tried to fight a battle with that army, the game would load the battle, I would see a flicker of the battle (before the speech starts) which was the camera panning across a group of Provencal Men-At-Arms but there was no ground under them! It looked as if they were levitating above ground. After that, the screen went black, meaning a normal computer would've crashed to desktop.

The 1.2 readme said it fixed a CTD with the mecenary spearmen, so I am quite confused. I tried this three times.

[SicilianVespers]

I tried to fight a battle against the Sicillians as the Angevins. I had Prince Charles' army at the beggining of the game plus a unit of mercenary spearmen. Anyway, every time I tried to fight a battle with that army, the game would load the battle, I would see a flicker of the battle (before the speech starts) which was the camera panning across a group of Provencal Men-At-Arms but there was no ground under them! It looked as if they were levitating above ground. After that, the screen went black, meaning a normal computer would've crashed to desktop.

The 1.2 readme said it fixed a CTD with the mecenary spearmen, so I am quite confused. I tried this three times.

The Merc Spearmen were fixed in 1.1. Are you able to fight custom battles?

[EDIT]
Have you unpacked the files? If so, did you delete the geography files?

- NOTE: Due to a timestamp check, the following unpacked files will
cause the game to crash and must be deleted before the game is
launched:

data\descr_geography_new.txt
data\descr_geography_new.db

Also how old are your graphics drivers? You could try updating to the most current version.

[SickBoy13]

Thanks.

EDIT: It turns out, I haven't unpacked anything, but the problem persists. I think I'll just try it without the Merc Spearmen.

Tried custom battle, didn't work either.

[SicilianVespers]

Thanks.

EDIT: It turns out, I haven't unpacked anything, but the problem persists. I think I'll just try it without the Merc Spearmen.

Tried custom battle, didn't work either.

Have tried lowering your graphics settings?


What are the specs of your PC?

[SickBoy13]

Yes, they are on the lowest settings possible.
Vanilla, LTC, TLR, RPM, DLV and AD have worked perfectly on my computer.
I recently procured an Nvidia 5600 (hey, I used to have a 5200!) which is a big problem with M2TW's flashy graphics, but as long as I turned the settings down all the way, it is fine for all the other mods I've played.

[SicilianVespers]

Yes, they are on the lowest settings possible.
Vanilla, LTC, TLR, RPM, DLV and AD have worked perfectly on my computer.
I recently procured an Nvidia 5600 (hey, I used to have a 5200!) which is a big problem with M2TW's flashy graphics, but as long as I turned the settings down all the way, it is fine for all the other mods I've played.

If you set shaders to 1 it should speed it up considerably.

Was it working for you before you installed the 1.2 patch?

[SickBoy13]

All fixed now. As it turns out, I didn't delete Vanilla's descr_geography.

[SicilianVespers]

Excellent

[DaVinci]

To save your pm-box today:

I played the adressed HRE campaign further, and still the Hungarian peasant archers were without skin and lack of unit-ui. Seems like custom mode (where these units are ok) uses other unit file-adresses than the SV-campaign, and i don't wonder about that, as i guess your codes refer not to the custom folder/files. Or do i have a special bug on my own?

[SicilianVespers]

To save your pm-box today:

I played the adressed HRE campaign further, and still the Hungarian peasant archers were without skin and lack of unit-ui. Seems like custom mode (where these units are ok) uses other unit file-adresses than the SV-campaign, and i don't wonder about that, as i guess your codes refer not to the custom folder/files. Or do i have a special bug on my own?

They were using Peasant Archers rather than S Peasant Archers in the descr_strat. This will be corrected in the next patch.

[DaVinci]

They were using Peasant Archers rather than S Peasant Archers in the descr_strat. This will be corrected in the next patch.

Ah, what a nice simple fix ... will do it in my install already, too.

[Hans Kloss]

First of all congratulation on great work done.I have been recently experiencing CTD problems at the end of the turn of new campaign (patch 1.2) - admittedly I have added more money to the factions in descr_strat and have edited/added couple of units.There are no problems in custom battles.Problem of course might not be at all related to SV but jus wondering if anyone else had similar problem.

[alagonios]

@DaVinci
You're absolutely right ofcourse. In the meantime I've solved the problem. Actually my fault was that...I did not want to modify the main\data folder. I'm playing mostly a modified version of LTC (new units, skins, ancillary texts, bigmap) which I brought to my liking after a lot of pain and reading through tutorials and mod threads. So a little bit of hesitation plus some overconfidence (and the haste to try the new mod!) resulted in a big mess. After doing everything step by step I got it right flawlessly...
Thank you all the same for your post.

[alagonios]

O.k., now I'm frustrated! I think I'm the victim of the merc spearmen bug. In campaign battles, whenever an army has a unit of merc spearmen the game CTD. The campaign can continue if I autoresolve (and I hate that).
On the other hand the log file says something about a missing animation file(?).
I thought the problem was fixed in the 1.2 patch and made sure I re-copied the descr-strat file from the patch. Is there another file I'supposed to check?
Also the galley and holk unit cards show as peasants but that's not a game breaker (If I remember from RTW it had something to do with export_unit and export_unit_enum text files corresponding to the correct model line e.t.c -haven't checked how it's done in M2TW).
Anyway, I'll try to attach the systemlog file and I will appreciate any ideas.

[SicilianVespers]

O.k., now I'm frustrated! I think I'm the victim of the merc spearmen bug. In campaign battles, whenever an army has a unit of merc spearmen the game CTD. The campaign can continue if I autoresolve (and I hate that).
On the other hand the log file says something about a missing animation file(?).
I thought the problem was fixed in the 1.2 patch and made sure I re-copied the descr-strat file from the patch. Is there another file I'supposed to check?
Also the galley and holk unit cards show as peasants but that's not a game breaker (If I remember from RTW it had something to do with export_unit and export_unit_enum text files corresponding to the correct model line e.t.c -haven't checked how it's done in M2TW).
Anyway, I'll try to attach the systemlog file and I will appreciate any ideas.

The merc spearmen were fixed in 1.1, but all all the 1.1 content is also included in 1.2.

You said you copied the 1.2 descr_strat? Does that mean you didn't copy the entire patch over 1.0? You need to install the entire patch, and make sure the \data & \SicilianVespers folders are in the Medieval II Total war folder.

[alagonios]

Sorry I was'nt clear enough. I have copied the entire 1.2 patch. But going through the threads I saw there was aproblem with some unit and the solution was the descr-strat (although it had to do with the peasant archers) so I tried that too. Also I played with the skins in modeldb with something I read in the K&K thread (71...Lmail_Hmail.mercs to 74...Kmail_Kmail.crusaders) but I think that's for the knights and it had nothing to do with the problem.
The campaign works fine except for these points. I can avoid hiring spearmen mercs but if the AI has a unit I have to autoresolve (lost my Angevin Marseilles to the French because of autoresolve).
Anyway I'm at work now so I cannot look at it. I'm planning to re-install the patch again. Is the unit card glitch expected, or is it an indication that I have installed something wrong? Does the system.log file give any clue?

Thanks again

[SicilianVespers]

Sorry I was'nt clear enough. I have copied the entire 1.2 patch. But going through the threads I saw there was aproblem with some unit and the solution was the descr-strat (although it had to do with the peasant archers) so I tried that too. Also I played with the skins in modeldb with something I read in the K&K thread (71...Lmail_Hmail.mercs to 74...Kmail_Kmail.crusaders) but I think that's for the knights and it had nothing to do with the problem.
The campaign works fine except for these points. I can avoid hiring spearmen mercs but if the AI has a unit I have to autoresolve (lost my Angevin Marseilles to the French because of autoresolve).
Anyway I'm at work now so I cannot look at it. I'm planning to re-install the patch again. Is the unit card glitch expected, or is it an indication that I have installed something wrong? Does the system.log file give any clue?

Thanks again

I think something went wrong with the installation of the patch. What actually fixes the merc spearmen is the modelsdb file that lives in M2TW\data\unit_models. You must be using the 1.0 version.

[Ermeni]

where can i find that system log....i have experiened some ctd:s recently....

[SicilianVespers]

where can i find that system log....i have experiened some ctd:s recently....

You can find it here:

x:\Program Files\SEGA\Medieval II Total War\logs